Ware: More Shots at Parcells

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JPM;1371998 said:
Rack, it's all Parcells fault. He casued the 8 feet of snow in upstate NY this week.

C'mon, that's just RIDICULOUS...

OTOH, I'm told Al Gore has photographic evidence that the Tuna is directly responsible for global warming...
 

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Rack;1372677 said:
New research out of New Orleans suggest Hurricane Katrina was caused by - you guessed it - Bill Parcells.

Sounds like the kind of thing that bastidge would do... but I have a tough time believing the unconfirmed reports he has a 6-6-6 birthmark on his scalp...

Gonna need to see some evidence before I'll accept that one...
 

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JackMagist;1372715 said:
Yes we reached a very high degree of mediocrity under Duane...Bill...whatever.

Which marks the first time we'd gotten ANY degree of mediocrity in a while... or don't you remember what the Switzer/Gailey/Campo eras were like??
 

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JackMagist;1372715 said:
Yes we reached a very high degree of mediocrity under Duane...Bill...whatever.

usually you change coaches and don't have high expectations for the next year -- but we are one of the favorites to win the SB at this point.

huh.
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;1372695 said:
Hey Rack, what's the status of your restoration project? Starting to think of doing something myself.

Haven't been able to do much lately cuz the stuff I need to do to get started, I need help doing. I finally got someone to come over and help me get the hood off the car today. I should be able to handle getting the fenders off tomorrow, then I'll need help getting the engine out. After that, I should be able to work a lot faster.


I'll take some pics and update the site after I get the fenders off.

Thanks for your interest. You'll see more updates soon. :D
 

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abersonc;1371650 said:
Railroaded into having much better talent than when he arrived.

That's a train that many teams would love to be on.

Much better talent... huh. We'll see. If the talent was so much better, why did he coach it to worse a record than the first season when he was coaching Campo/Jerry's guys? He bought the groceries and the team's record went backward from when he was coaching Campo's guys.

Good riddance.
 

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randy932;1372888 said:
Much better talent... huh. We'll see. If the talent was so much better, why did he coach it to worse a record than the first season when he was coaching Campo/Jerry's guys? He bought the groceries and the team's record went backward from when he was coaching Campo's guys.

Good riddance.

Ignorance.


If you think the 2003 team is better then ANY of the teams from 2004-2006 then you are clueless.
 

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Rack;1372890 said:
Ignorance.


If you think the 2003 team is better then ANY of the teams from 2004-2006 then you are clueless.

Tell me coach. Why did the team comprised of Campo's guys and coached by Parcells have a better record than any other team Parcells coached in Dallas? Did he do it on purpose? Did he suddenly get stupid?

I never said that the talent wasn't better now, but I don't think that the term "much better" fits when there has been zero results that bear it out. If the talent was MUCH better, then common sense says that there should be at least a token amount of improvement.

BTW - regardless of your opinion, I am far from ignorant.
 

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i think we have better individual players now, ware, owens etc..but i don't think they were coached the correct way, bill done fine on offense but his defence was played too safely. i think wade will use the defensive players better than bill did and that is why i think we will be better. i don't think demarcus was taking shots at bill, i think he was simply stating that we didn't perform as well as we should have.
 

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randy932;1372896 said:
Tell me coach. Why did the team comprised of Campo's guys and coached by Parcells have a better record than any other team Parcells coached in Dallas? Did he do it on purpose? Did he suddenly get stupid?

I never said that the talent wasn't better now, but I don't think that the term "much better" fits when there has been zero results that bear it out. If the talent was MUCH better, then common sense says that there should be at least a token amount of improvement.

BTW - regardless of your opinion, I am far from ignorant.

Says the person w/o a clue.


The team is MUCH improved. The problem is we've faced better competition this past 3 years then we did the first year. We caught a few teams w/major injuries that first year. We got bit by the injury bug in 2005.

But just go position by position and see for yourself. We're much better then in 2003.


QB: Carter or Romo

RB: Hambrick or JuJo/MBIII

WR: Gallowaste/Glenn or TO/Glenn. Also, what about the backup WRs?

TE: Witten as a rookie or Witten as a 3 time probowler and better depth?

OL: Do I even have to name these guys? We're MUCH Better on the OL now.

DL: Ekuban was still a starter for us in 2003. Nuff said.

LB: We were solid at LB in 2003, but we're better now.

CB: Newman and Mario Edwards or Newman (with 4 years Experience) and Henry?

SS: Roy then or Roy now?

FS: We're better now.

P: Better now

K: Better now


Still think you aren't ignorant? Maybe ignorant wasn't the right word to use then.
 

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abersonc;1371583 said:
How are Ware's comments a shot at Bill? Sure Bill was the HC but he's getting coached more directly by Zimmer and the DL/LB guys

Coach Parcells was the defacto DC. Zimmer was DC in name only. Parcells ran the show and that's what proved to be our downfall.
 

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HTownCowboysFan;1372906 said:
Coach Parcells was the defacto DC. Zimmer was DC in name only. Parcells ran the show and that's what proved to be our downfall.


That statement is easy to understand for those here who have been paying attention.
Unfortunately,that has not been the case for many here.
 

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JPM;1371998 said:
Rack, it's all Parcells fault. He casued the 8 feet of snow in upstate NY this week.

I have not been a big BP supporter, but I have to thank him for this. Best snowmobiling late season in years !

Sorry MW, but no snow here in CT but tons of it 4-5 hours away.
 

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Artie Lange;1373042 said:
That statement is easy to understand for those here who have been paying attention.
Unfortunately,that has not been the case for many here.

I get it. You hate Bill. But you ignore anything you can to support your "Bill sucks" arguments.

On the Defensive side we have a highly paid and experienced coordinator. On the Offensive side we lost our O-Coord and by many accounts Bill took over most of the play calling. Hmmm. Where is Bill spending his time?
 

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Rack;1372905 said:
Says the person w/o a clue.


The team is MUCH improved. The problem is we've faced better competition this past 3 years then we did the first year. We caught a few teams w/major injuries that first year. We got bit by the injury bug in 2005.

But just go position by position and see for yourself. We're much better then in 2003.


QB: Carter or Romo

RB: Hambrick or JuJo/MBIII

WR: Gallowaste/Glenn or TO/Glenn. Also, what about the backup WRs?

TE: Witten as a rookie or Witten as a 3 time probowler and better depth?

OL: Do I even have to name these guys? We're MUCH Better on the OL now.

DL: Ekuban was still a starter for us in 2003. Nuff said.

LB: We were solid at LB in 2003, but we're better now.

CB: Newman and Mario Edwards or Newman (with 4 years Experience) and Henry?

SS: Roy then or Roy now?

FS: We're better now.

P: Better now

K: Better now


Still think you aren't ignorant? Maybe ignorant wasn't the right word to use then.

You need to take some reading comprehension courses , then get back to me.
Like I said, and you stupidly have chosen to ignore, I said we will see. I have NOT said that we are not more talented. I HAVE said that we should have seen evidence of it. Show me the evidence.

Until there is evidence of it, you are just another dumba-- spouting off theories. Facts are stubborn things. The Cowboys coached by Parcells that had the best record was the edition that was comprised of Campos guys. Until you can post a year that Parcells took a Cowboy team to a better record than the Campo equipped team, your argument is nothing more than your opinion. My whole point is if you are going to give Parcells credit for improving the talent of the team, then you have to blame his idiotic coaching for not getting more out of it.
 

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HTownCowboysFan;1372906 said:
Coach Parcells was the defacto DC. Zimmer was DC in name only. Parcells ran the show and that's what proved to be our downfall.

Just because I think percyhoward's a genius - and wordsmith

percyhoward said:
The two main criticisms of Parcells happen to be contradictory--that his coordinators deserve all the credit, and that he doesn't let them breathe.

If people can't wrap their head around that, there's not much to wrap in the first place.
 

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randy932;1373094 said:
You need to take some reading comprehension courses , then get back to me.
Like I said, and you stupidly have chosen to ignore, I said we will see. I have NOT said that we are not more talented. I HAVE said that we should have seen evidence of it. Show me the evidence.

Until there is evidence of it, you are just another dumba-- spouting off theories. Facts are stubborn things. The Cowboys coached by Parcells that had the best record was the edition that was comprised of Campos guys. Until you can post a year that Parcells took a Cowboy team to a better record than the Campo equipped team, your argument is nothing more than your opinion. My whole point is if you are going to give Parcells credit for improving the talent of the team, then you have to blame his idiotic coaching for not getting more out of it.


Pay attention, Chico, you might learn something...


You followed up your "We'll see" with:

If the talent was so much better, why did he coach it to worse a record than the first season when he was coaching Campo/Jerry's guys? He bought the groceries and the team's record went backward from when he was coaching Campo's guys.


Gee, that sure seems to me like you're saying the team was better in 2003 then in 2004-2006.


And I know it makes you feel tough and everything to call someone names from the safety of your keyboard, but you may want to hold off on that stuff unless you like getting banned. The mods don't take too kindly to that kind of idiocy around here.
 

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superpunk;1373110 said:
Just because I think percyhoward's a genius - and wordsmith



If people can't wrap their head around that, there's not much to wrap in the first place.

:hammer:
 

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abersonc;1373078 said:
(re: Bill as defacto D-Coord)



I get it. You hate Bill. But you ignore anything you can to support your "Bill sucks" arguments.

On the Defensive side we have a highly paid and experienced coordinator. On the Offensive side we lost our O-Coord and by many accounts Bill took over most of the play calling. Hmmm. Where is Bill spending his time?

Hate is a very strong word.
I may hate a few people in the world,but Parcells isn't one of them.
Change was needed and it just so happens that Parcells is what needed to be changed.
It's a long argument about what he did and what he failed to do in Big D,but as you know,it's a "what have you done for me lately" NFL.
The December debacles along with his failure to put together an OL via draft and FA were enough for me.
 
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