Was it smart to leave lucky home for "this" game?

[DandyDon52]

I know he needed to be punished, but this sort of punishes and hurts the team doesnt it ??
Cant they fine him or cut him out of a later game like philly?

We left our luck home and lost.
Lucky usually gets positive yards on the jet sweep, and then that sets up counter runs etc off it.
JG decided he didnt need that to beat those pesky giants lol.

I mean did this hurt the team more than lucky? And in a close game like this you need all your starters.

I might add that dumbar took the last ko out of the endzone and only made the 13 yd line,
Do they not coach these guys on this? in that situation, you down it and start at the 25 !

 

[Risen Star]

It was irrelevant. He's a spare part. He impacts nothing.

 

[Bullflop]

This team doesn't rely upon Lucky to be their catalyst by any means. They have enough weapons to do well without him, especially if he can't find the wherewithal to abide by the rules. The team is responsible for establishing and enforcing discipline. Without that, it could easily become a case of the inmates running the asylum in the same manner that they did only a decade ago. They definitely did the right thing, imo.

 

[MarkP88]

If Lucky Whitehead is the difference between winning and losing a game, something has gone wrong with the very fabric of the universe.

 

[Stash]

I know he needed to be punished, but this sort of punishes and hurts the team doesnt it ??
Cant they fine him or cut him out of a later game like philly?

We left our luck home and lost.
Lucky usually gets positive yards on the jet sweep, and then that sets up counter runs etc off it.
JG decided he didnt need that to beat those pesky giants lol.

I mean did this hurt the team more than lucky? And in a close game like this you need all your starters.

I might add that dumbar took the last ko out of the endzone and only made the 13 yd line,
Do they not coach these guys on this? in that situation, you down it and start at the 25 !

It doesn't look like you thought this through.

 

[theebs]

I am glad they did because it sends a message to the team to get out of the club. I have to think he was left behind in part because of tuesday mornings tmz crap. I can't imagine garrett thinks its a good thing or a good look at the least having your leaders doing that stuff the week of the most important game.

Travis frederick said last night on the cowboys hour this is a special team and no one said anything in the locker room after the game but you could feel it and see it in the guys eyes. Said he has no worries this team will be focused and ready to go this week.

Hopefully this loss will help the team and also its probably good for Dak to experience a little negative attention. He is getting like a 1% taste of what its like to lose around here, if he plays poorly in the playoffs and they lose he will take all the blame and will get an offseason of he stinks and needs to be replaced because that is how it is in these parts. I can't imagine he has ever experienced that. So better now than in january.

 

[DandyDon52]

It doesn't look like you thought this through.

I gave it at least 30 seconds !!!!!

 

[Stash]

I gave it at least 30 seconds !!!!!

I stand corrected then.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Lucky plays a role on this team and it's a nice piece to have. When you have a threat to run the jet sweep you can get some big plays from not only the jet sweep, but the threat of a jet sweep. We also use him in more jumbo packages because he is a ferocious blocker and we have been very efficient in using those packages.

Do I have concerns about Lucky?

Absolutely.

He seems to have gotten bigger and his 'get-up' isn't as fast as it was and he still has trouble protecting the football.

But, in a game decided by a FG and where 1 play can be the difference between winning and losing he's not irrelevant to me.

With all of that being said...I don't think it was a bad idea to bench Lucky. It sends a message and I think it's a good motivational tool. I don't think the Witten's, Prescott's, EE's, T. Crawford's and Tyron's of the team will ever need this message. But, the younger, middle of the pack players may need to understand that if you don't do what you're supposed to, we have a coach who has no issue in benching you.




YR

 

[DandyDon52]

This team doesn't rely upon Lucky to be their catalyst by any means. They have enough weapons to do well without him, especially if he can't find the wherewithal to abide by the rules. The team is responsible for establishing and enforcing discipline. Without that, it could easily become a case of the inmates running the asylum in the same manner that they did only a decade ago. They definitely did the right thing, imo.

Well they are mostly rkg, so that isnt really a problem.
you can punish him without hurting the team. My guess is he loses a game check?? but why not do it in philly game, same amount
of money.

And they lost and only scored 7 and worst offensive outing of the year, so you cant really say we didnt need him at all.

1 good play can change the outcome of a game like this.

 

[DandyDon52]

Lucky plays a role on this team and it's a nice piece to have. When you have a threat to run the jet sweep you can get some big plays from not only the jet sweep, but the threat of a jet sweep. We also use him in more jumbo packages because he is a ferocious blocker and we have been very efficient in using those packages.

Do I have concerns about Lucky?

Absolutely.

He seems to have gotten bigger and his 'get-up' isn't as fast as it was and he still has trouble protecting the football.

But, in a game decided by a FG and where 1 play can be the difference between winning and losing he's not irrelevant to me.

With all of that being said...I don't think it was a bad idea to bench Lucky. It sends a message and I think it's a good motivational tool. I don't think the Witten's, Prescott's, EE's, T. Crawford's and Tyron's of the team will ever need this message. But, the younger, middle of the pack players may need to understand that if you don't do what you're supposed to, we have a coach who has no issue in benching you.

YR

yes but why not just tell him your not playing in the last game with phil.

Thing is this was a huge game, you need all your weapons, and the other games not so much.
If giants win out and we lose 2 more, giants get the div now.
This game would have wrapped up div and I think HFA, so they could bench him for Tampa game even.

 

[Stash]

Well they are mostly rkg, so that isnt really a problem.
you can punish him without hurting the team. My guess is he loses a game check?? but why not do it in philly game, same amount
of money.

And they lost and only scored 7 and worst offensive outing of the year, so you cant really say we didnt need him at all.

1 good play can change the outcome of a game like this.

Because maintaining discipline and accountability means something. More than a 'maybe', 'possibly', or 'could have been' gadget play and one-trick player does.

And you punish poor behavior when that behavior happens, not when it's 'convenient'.

Otherwise, you'll take a good team downhill, just like Barry Switzer did.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

yes but why not just tell him your not playing in the last game with phil.

Thing is this was a huge game, you need all your weapons, and the other games not so much.
If giants win out and we lose 2 more, giants get the div now.
This game would have wrapped up div and I think HFA, so they could bench him for Tampa game even.

Sometimes you have to let it be known that you're going to discipline a player regardless of the game so you can send the right message. If you wait until Philly, that sends the message that it's okay to break team rules because you'll only get punished if the game isn't a crucial one.

We see how it works with a lot of these college programs that will only suspend a player when they have a clearly inferior opponent and then the kid gets in trouble again.




YR

 

[Bullflop]

Well they are mostly rkg, so that isnt really a problem.
you can punish him without hurting the team. My guess is he loses a game check?? but why not do it in philly game, same amount
of money.

And they lost and only scored 7 and worst offensive outing of the year, so you cant really say we didnt need him at all.

1 good play can change the outcome of a game like this.

Let's face it -- Lucky's positive effect on the team is minimal, compared to others that have as much skill. They are also considerably more considerate of adhering to the discipline that should rightfully exist. Discipline is what that makes this team accountable for its players and their conduct. Say what you will, regressing to a time when players did whatever they wanted with no repercussions would fail this team.

It's impossible to ensure a healthy culture on any team whenever lax discipline is permitted to reign supreme as it did not so long ago. As far as that "one good play" is concerned, they could just as easily have gotten that from many others on the team. It didn't really need to come from someone who is almost equally as capable of screwing up as he is of doing well. It's not like Lucky is all that special -- he's just not.

 

[Satchel89]

Lucky Whitehead wouldn't of made any difference in the outcome of that game. They were penalized on 3 straight punt returns and he has 1 sweep play a game. He doesn't factor in that much to make a difference.

 

[DandyDon52]

Then how do you explain dez missing meetings but never benched ?

 

[Seven]

I swear.....if I hear jet sweep one more time, I'm gonna road rage a short bus.....................

 

[kevm3]

The problem was leaving Zeke on the bench on 3rd downs and in critical game situations. This is a 4th pick 'franchise back'. What in the world are you saving him for? We could have locked up the division.

 

[MileyDancer]

It was irrelevant. He's a spare part. He impacts nothing.

Exactly. He's not a good returner. Also, Dez should be returning punts, but I guess we're the only team scared to put their star WR back there. It's not like Dez does enough for us to be worried that he's hurt, or not.

 

[MileyDancer]

I swear.....if I hear jet sweep one more time, I'm gonna road rage a short bus.....................

Jet swee...

Sorry, I'm looking out for the churrlen.