Was the Tuna a fraud

[jr40usa]

Since Bill has gotten all the credit for the drafting of these current player. If they don't make the playoffs again this year. Should we then say his total drafting of players was overrated?

 

[Coast2Coast27]

No , because without him ever coming here we'd be the Raider's right now. That's 100 percent fact. He turned the whole organization around.

 

[iceberg]

Since Bill has gotten all the credit for the drafting of these current player. If they don't make the playoffs again this year. Should we then say his total drafting of players was overrated?

i'm ok with 2% milk, but man, you go much lower and it's just white water.

 

[LandryFan]

No , because without him ever coming here we'd be the Raider's right now. That's 100 percent fact. He turned the whole organization around.

Wow...just wow!

 

[DFWJC]

Since Bill has gotten all the credit for the drafting of these current player. If they don't make the playoffs again this year. Should we then say his total drafting of players was overrated?

Doubt it, but it was hard not to improve on what was going on before he got here draft wise. Plus Jerry had traded away a few #1s.

I do know that the same team that went 9-7, lost of 3 of their last 4, and lost in the playoffs under Parcells went 13-3, won the division, split their last 4, but also lost in the playoffs (but in the second round) under Phillips.

 

[Kangaroo]

Doubt it, but it was hard not to improve on what was going on before he got here draft wise. Plus Jerry had traded away a few #1s.

I do know that the same team that went 9-7 and lost in the playoffs under Parcells went 13-3, won the division, but al

That is what suppose to happen the first one was a learning process like the Cowboys back on Jimmy that is called a learning process of a young team

 

[CF74]

Why do the call him the New Jersey con man?

 

[Doomsay]

from 15-33 to the playoffs... with brain dead Quincy Carter at the helm

Let that settle in. Not the greatest game day coach during his 3rd decade in the NFL, but somebody that could run his own show w/o the interference of vainglorious Jerry for a season or two. Wade, Jerry and Garrett couldn't build a team on their own if their lives depended on it.


Stephen and an empowered head coach are probably the first time we sniff late January carpet, but by then, one of the team's 3 greatest QB's will be bouncing his grandchildren on his arthritic knee.

 

[casmith07]

Since Bill has gotten all the credit for the drafting of these current player. If they don't make the playoffs again this year. Should we then say his total drafting of players was overrated?

Yes he was a fraud, and same with everyone else since Jimmy Johnson.

 

[Hypnotoad]

yeah well...the Raiders can say that they have won 4 playoff games and been to the Super Bowl in the last 10 years.... so

but we has tuna

 

[EPL0c0]

No , because without him ever coming here we'd be the Raider's right now. That's 100 percent fact. He turned the whole organization around.

yeah well...the Raiders can say that they have won 4 playoff games and been to the Super Bowl in the last 10 years.... so

 

[DFWJC]

Doubt it, but it was hard not to improve on what was going on before he got here draft wise. Plus Jerry had traded away a few #1s.

I do know that the same team that went 9-7 and lost in the playoffs under Parcells went 13-3, won the division, but al

That is what suppose to happen the first one was a learning process like the Cowboys back on Jimmy that is called a learning process of a young team

Except that it was BP's 4th year and not really that young of a team. I know what your saying, I was just pointing out the facts.

Also, if you go down our roster you'll see that BP did bring in some good guys, and so has Wade. After i went through the process of looking at our roster, it was suprising to see how the OLine divided out---non of the key guys came from BP's era. They came before or after--the 4 years he was here saw no upgrade there. Flozell,Columbo and Kosier were before BP. Davis and Free were from WP's era. We really need to draft those positions soon.

 

[arglebargle]

Parcells said it himself, that his methods would probably only work for three years. He was no better in the playoffs than Wade. He brought in a better system of drafting, but many of his pet cats, especially the ones where he over-ruled the scouting department, turned out to be duds.

He also had a strong tendancy to jump ship, and that was evident for years before his Cowboys' tenure.

Not the most terrible coach in his latter years, but over-inflated in the reputation area.

 

[Doomsay]

Not the most terrible coach in his latter years, but over-inflated in the reputation area.

yeah, the only coach to bring 4 different teams to the playoffs - including our sorry 15-33 squad.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Tuna was a fraud with Cowboys. He does deserve some credit to making Cowboys better after he came here. But Campo stood no chance anyway, with the roster and salary cap hell Cowboys were in at that time.

I am biggest or used to be biggest Tuna fan around. But he was a big dissappointment and lived off his reputation and his witty press conferences. Fans get nostalgic, but Tuna was not good with cowboys and mostly was a miserable human being when he was with Cowboys. He wasn't the guy who was with Giants/NE/Jets.

 

[Coast2Coast27]

No Parcells no Romo no austin. That's 100 percent fact. We'd be freaking awful. Parcell's turns around everyteam he goes too, we needed the Jersey guy in texas to turn things around .

 

[Hostile]

I am one of Parcells biggest critics here. No, he was not a fraud. He is a great football coach whose heart was not in doing his job. I don't know if it was the death of his brother. I don't know if he didn't have enough power here. I don't know if he didn't like Dallas.

I do know the job he did wasn't up to my expectations and standards and the way he left gnaws at me.

But a fraud? No, even though I am not a fan of his, he did a good job assembling talent here. I didn't agree with every move, but overall, he deserves credit.

 

[silver]

Anybody that takes a Quincy Carter-Troy Hambrick led offense to the playoffs has got to be doing some magic back there. That's got to be the greatest coaching accomplishment of his entire carreer.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

No , because without him ever coming here we'd be the Raider's right now. That's 100 percent fact. He turned the whole organization around.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Tuna turned this entire thing from an Al Davis Jr. (Jerry) driven hell to an actual competitive and respectable team. It's unfortunate that he retired because we would've made some noise in 2007 if he had stayed on.

Jerry started to meddle again though once it became apparent that the team was on the verge of success and that Parcells would get more credit, just like Jimmy got most of the credit for the Super Bowl teams. Parcells didn't wanna deal with it.

Jerry's ego won't allow this franchise to succeed. It's unfortunate really. Either way...we'd still be a 5 win per year team without the Parcells era. He was the best thing to happen to this franchise since Jimmy.