Wash vs Dallas, position by position, who's better?

[Mansta54]

i'm sure.

I think Portis is warrior but a high ankle sprain is a RB's worst nighmare. They linger all year long and his just happened 2 weeks ago.. So, again, NO I wouldn't take him over JJ and MBIII...

 

[LeonDixson]

The match ups don't mean a thing. We win the majority of the matchups but that doesn't guarantee a win in the game. You throw stats and everything else out the window when the Cowboys and Commanders go to war.

That said, I do believe we win the game if the team plays like it did after the 1st quarter last week.

 

[George]

i'm sure.

nice sig.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Cooley vs. Witten? Tie

Witten is a Pro Bowler, not a tie, Dallas

Springs/Rogers vs. Henry/Newman? Dallas - probably - haven't seen our CBs healthy this year

probably? Rogers isn't the player of Henry or Newman, esp. Newman, you don't have a 3rd corner of Aaron Glenn, one of the best in the game, and our 4th corner may be better than your 3rd

you have Springs, he's you're #1, but he's a tier below Newman, CB is solidly in Dallas' favor

 

[Bob Sacamano]

LT: Samuels vs Flo: Tough call here...but Flo hasn't seemed to recover from his injury all the way. Samuels gets the edge.

Samuels has been as inconsistent as Flo has, push

RT: Jansen vs Columbo: Columbo's making progress....but he's not to Jansen's level yet.

according to Skin fans, Jansen is struggling this year, push

Archuletta/Taylor vs Williams/Davis: Push....Taylor and Williams cancel each other out.....we still are undecided at FS. Sure AA stinks, but I can't say that he's so much better than Davis.

both AA and Sean have been getting burned w/ some regularity, and none approach the level of Roy as a player, Keith and Marcus do a fine job against the pass, edge, Dallas

 

[Death Star]

i'm sure.

Mansta already covered it but I'll chime in as well.

Reason people are saying that is because Julius Jones got a high ankle sprain last year around week 5. He missed 3-4 games and then still wasn't right after that until just about the last game of the season.

So yeah, 2 weeks into a high ankle sprain? I'll take our guys.

 

[TEK2000]

quote=Bizwah
Their LBs are a push?

How?

Ellis, Ware, Ayodele, James is a much better group than Washington's group. It is tough to compare a 3-4 to a 4-3 though.

Here are my comparisons:

QB: Romo vs Brunell: Brunell--Come on...he's a vet. Romo is relatively a rookie. He had one very good game. Brunell has had many. He's on the downside of his career, but there's not a lot he hasn't seen yet.
Hard for me to give the edge to Brunell but with Romo being inexperienced its tough. With Brunell, at least you know what you've got... a dump off artist this season.

RB: Portis vs Jones and Barber-- Again, we're a little homeristic to say that the combo of Jones/Barber is better than Portis. Portis can do it all. He can block, run, and receive. It says a lot for Portis that we have to compare him to TWO of our guys. The only edge I can give us here is the fact that Portis is banged up.
Portis healthy gets the nod. With him banged up ya gotta go with Jones/Barber

WR: Moss, Lloyd, ARE, and Cooley vs Glenn, TO, Witten, and Crayton: Dallas gets the edge here.
Completely agree

LT: Samuels vs Flo: Tough call here...but Flo hasn't seemed to recover from his injury all the way. Samuels gets the edge.
Flo has certainly struggled thus far.
Flo: 5 sacks allowed. 2 penalties for 15 yards
Samuels: 1 sack allowed. 4 penalties for 45 yards
edge goes to Samuels.

LG: Dockery vs Kosier: Another close one. At the beginning of the season, I'd give the edge to Dockery....but Kosier has played well. Edge Kosier.

C: Rabach vs Gurode: Push

RG: Thomas vs Rivera: Thomas

RT: Jansen vs Columbo: Columbo's making progress....but he's not to Jansen's level yet.
I think this is a push
Jansen: 3 sacks allowed. 6 penalties for 45 yards
Colombo: 3.5 sacks allowed. 3 penalties for 20 yards (no holds and only 1 false start)
Keep in mind that Colombo is coming off a game versus Julius Peppers where he didn't give up a single sack.


Defense:

Commander front seven vs Dallas front seven: Edge Dallas....We're not as good as I'd hoped. But our front seven can stop the run and pass without resorting to all out blitzes.

Secondary:

Springs/Rogers vs Newman/Henry: Dallas....They're banged up...even healthy they're not as good.

Archuletta/Taylor vs Williams/Davis: Push....Taylor and Williams cancel each other out.....we still are undecided at FS. Sure AA stinks, but I can't say that he's so much better than Davis.
Thus far, Taylor has given up 4 TD's by himself to Roy WIlliams' 2 TD's allowed. We gave up 0 TD's against one of the best recieving tandems in the NFL last week.
Cowboys are #4 in the league at passing TD's allowed at 6 TD's.
Washington is tied for 2nd to last in the league at 15 TD's allowed.
The secondary as a whole.. including the safeties.. is a CLEAR advantage Dallas.

We're pretty evenly matched if you ask me. The big difference is our youth on defense.

 

[kTXe]

C: Rabach vs Gurode: Push

Rabach is arguably the weakest link on their line.

Gurode is arguably the strongest link on ours.

No way is that a push. Gurode by a landslide.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

Mansta already covered it but I'll chime in as well.

Reason people are saying that is because Julius Jones got a high ankle sprain last year around week 5. He missed 3-4 games and then still wasn't right after that until just about the last game of the season.

So yeah, 2 weeks into a high ankle sprain? I'll take our guys.

the severity of both are probably way different. If it was really that bad for portis, he wouldnt be listed a "probable" this week

 

[tomson75]

Pretty good stuff there TEK2000.

 

[Mansta54]

the severity of both are probably way different. If it was really that bad for portis, he wouldnt be listed a "probable" this week

Not true, Gibbs is known for lying about his injuries...

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

Not true, Gibbs is known for lying about his injuries...

oh really? give an example.

 

[Death Star]

the severity of both are probably way different. If it was really that bad for portis, he wouldnt be listed a "probable" this week

What is the treatment for a high ankle sprain?
Syndesmotic injuries tend not to heal as well as more common ankle sprain, that is why trainers and coaches of athletes are often concerned about "high ankle sprains." Your orthopedic doctor will first determine if the injury is stable or unstable. If the injury is stable, then the high ankle sprain can be treated in a cast, usually for a period of 6 weeks.

Link

Hey, it's possible that Portis has such a mild sprain that it almost borders on non-injury, but chances are he won't be in very good shape at all if he actually suits up just 2 weeks after sustaining the injury.

 

[Cowboy from New York]

You, sir, must have hit up Mr. Irvin for some of his stash....the above is one of the most one sided opinions I've ever seen.

As a Commander fan that is pretty darn hard on his team I'd offer up a realistic and still decidedly Dallastic favored:

Portis vs. Jones AND Barber? Skins
Cooley vs. Witten? Tie
Randle El/Moss vs. Owens and Glenn? Dallas - Moss will be out
O-line vs O-line? Tie
D-line vs D-line? Dallas - Andre Carter is on autopilot (see Remote Control w/ Adam Sandler)
LBers vs LBers? Dallas - We have Holdman
Springs/Rogers vs. Henry/Newman? Dallas - probably - haven't seen our CBs healthy this year
Archuleta/Taylor vs. Davis, Coleman, Watkins/Roy? let me ship Adam "Archuletta gonna run right past ya" to another team and we have a push....with him - Dallas
Novak vs. Vandy? Dallas & any Pop Warner team
Frost vs. McBriar? Dallas & any team that fields a kicker sporting more than one limb below the waist.

You disagree with me on two of the position battles and I'm the one smoking on the cheeba?
1. I'm not arguing career merits of Portis vs. JJ and Barber but this year JJ himself has 200 rushing yards more than Portis and Barber chips in another 264 yards. Portis has 6 TDs but so does Barber and JJ has another 3. So how far out is it to say those two are the equal of Portis?

2. Witten has over a 100 yards more in receiving yardage than Cooley and has been off to a terribly slow start. The Carolina game was really the first game this year where we saw him rumble for extra yardage after the catch. Cooley is a nice player but I don't think you could find any Dallas fan on the site that would take him over Witten. Can you honestly say the same for your fans all taking Cooley over Witten?

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

Link

Hey, it's possible that Portis has such a mild sprain that it almost borders on non-injury, but chances are he won't be in very good shape at all if he actually suits up just 2 weeks after sustaining the injury.

yeah, it's pretty obvious that he won't be 100%, however, I dont think it will be as bad as some on here care to lead

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Soo........should Dallas win?

 

[burmafrd]

Don't forget Portis and his glass shoulder. Overall right now he just cannot match the combo of Barber and Jones.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

a little too much homerisim here

The Skins have the better OL
Cowboys have the better LBers
Cowboys have the better DL
The Skins have the better RBs
The Cowboys have the better TEs
The overall WR corps is a push
The CBs Dallas
The Safeties are a push

We need to ease up on thinking we have found our QB after 1 game. He has yet to get hit in the mouth. He is not a real big guy. If he cannot answer the bell every week he is a backup. Until he gets hit in the mouth a few times for a couple of weeks in a row, I would not crown him. Having said that, he is better than Brunell for 1 game, but let's not induct him into the HOF. And again people, I live in the DC area, for those who do you understand what is happening around here. This is the Skins SB...they are completely selling out for 1 game. Then you will see them play the kid. But they know that if they beat Dallas, the fans will back off and accept the losing that will take place once Campbell is given the ball. But this game will be harder than the Panther game. Watch what I tell you.

 

[ihatedallas.com]

Soo........should Dallas win?

Yes, they should - hope they don't.

 

[TEK2000]

a little too much homerisim here

The Skins have the better OL
Cowboys have the better LBers
Cowboys have the better DL
The Skins have the better RBs
The Cowboys have the better TEs
The overall WR corps is a push
The CBs Dallas
The Safeties are a push

We need to ease up on thinking we have found our QB after 1 game. He has yet to get hit in the mouth. He is not a real big guy. If he cannot answer the bell every week he is a backup. Until he gets hit in the mouth a few times for a couple of weeks in a row, I would not crown him. Having said that, he is better than Brunell for 1 game, but let's not induct him into the HOF. And again people, I live in the DC area, for those who do you understand what is happening around here. This is the Skins SB...they are completely selling out for 1 game. Then you will see them play the kid. But they know that if they beat Dallas, the fans will back off and accept the losing that will take place once Campbell is given the ball. But this game will be harder than the Panther game. Watch what I tell you.

An injured Portis is not better than a healthy JJ and Barber.

Owens: 482 yards 5 TDs
Glenn: 430 yards 3 TDs
Crayton: 175 yards 2 TDs

Moss: 435 yards 3 TDs
ARE: 167 yards 1 TD
Lloyd: 164 yards 0 TDs

That's 1087 yards and 11 TDs versus 766 yards and 4 TDs.
Exactly how is this a "push"?

I've already shown how the safeties and secondaries in general are NOT a push. Skins passing defense is among the worst in the league (2nd to last) at giving up TD's while the Cowboys are top 5 at giving up TD's.
Skins: 15 TD's allowed
Cowboys: 6 TD's allowed

We are comparing players in terms of THIS game and THIS season... not overall careers.