Washington vs Mayer vs Kincaid

[cnuball21]

I'll preface this by saying I DON"T want us to draft a TE in the 1st...but if we do the more I watch these guys the more I'd rather just roll the dice on Washington.

If we're going to draft a low value position in the 1st give me kid that has all pro upside if everything clicks.

Even if Wash doesn't reach his full potential I still see his floor as one of the best blocking TEs in football, a redzone nightmare and an average pass catching TE that can give you 50+ grabs and 500+ yards a year. I'd take that risk over the 2 also knowing QBs LOVE massive targets against zone (84 inch wingspan) and he'll likely be a better red zone threat than the other 2.

 

[JBS]

50+ and 500 yards absolutely is not the floor

You’re only off by about 50-60%

 

[cnuball21]

50+ and 500 yards absolutely is not the floor

You’re only off by about 50-60%

Schultz got average a little over 90 targets the last 3 years and average around 650 yards during that span. He’s the definition of mediocre as a pass catcher and had a negative EPA when targeted last year.

I’m pretty confident if given the same target volume Washington is in that ballpark for his floor.

 

[JBS]

Schultz got average a little over 90 targets the last 3 years and average around 650 yards during that span. He’s the definition of mediocre as a pass catcher and had a negative EPA when targeted last year.

I’m pretty confident if given the same target volume Washington is in that ballpark for his floor.

Yeah, that’s not his floor

 

[cnuball21]

Yeah, that’s not his floor

Good chat.

 

[Malhavoc]

Kincaid IMO is a top 20 player. Mayer ain’t far behind. Washington is a round 2 player. Love Kincaid. Really like Mayer. Washington has intriguing size and athleticis.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Yeah, that’s not his floor

What would you say his floor is then

 

[xwalker]

I'll preface this by saying I DON"T want us to draft a TE in the 1st...but if we do the more I watch these guys the more I'd rather just roll the dice on Washington.

If we're going to draft a low value position in the 1st give me kid that has all pro upside if everything clicks.

Even if Wash doesn't reach his full potential I still see his floor as one of the best blocking TEs in football, a redzone nightmare and an average pass catching TE that can give you 50+ grabs and 500+ yards a year. I'd take that risk over the 2 also knowing QBs LOVE massive targets against zone (84 inch wingspan) and he'll likely be a better red zone threat than the other 2.

Washington is such a great redzone player that he averaged 1 TD per season in college...

​	REC​	YDS​	TD​
Mayer​	180​	2099​	18​
Washington​	45​	774​	3​

 

[JBS]

What would you say his floor is then

You think his floor is 50+ and 500 yards ???

His floor is about half of that. It’s entirely possible he never manages to be a receiving threat at all

 

[darthseinfeld]

You think he’s 50+ and 500 yards ???

I was asking you what you think his floor is

 

[cnuball21]

Washington is such a great redzone player that he averaged 1 TD per season in college...

​	REC​	YDS​	TD​
Mayer​	180​	2099​	18​
Washington​	45​	774​	3​

A lot more goes into the eval than looking at a box score.

 

[unionjack8]

 

[cnuball21]

I saw this too…obviously the sample size is small but still impressive.

 

[JBS]

I was asking you what you think his floor is

Half

 

[cnuball21]

Half

Ferguson almost hit your floor as a backup.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Half

Probably right. Its really hard to tell what he does as a receiver at the next level. The tools are there though

 

[darthseinfeld]

Ferguson almost hit your floor as a backup.

I could see Washington not getting receiving reps from Ferguson as a rookie. Could be why Dallas is reportedly out on him

 

[unionjack8]

I saw this too…obviously the sample size is small but still impressive.

Yeah, I'm not sure what to think of it but it's obvious he cannot be dismissed as a pass catcher. I still think I'm Kincaid, Meyer, Washington but he's got a high ceiling

 

[cnuball21]

I could see Washington not getting receiving reps from Ferguson as a rookie. Could be why Dallas is reportedly out on him

Could be.

As I said I don’t want a TE in the 1st. But if we’re taking one I want the high upside one.

My preference is to hope Wash / Musgraves falls to our 2nd or someone else dallas in the mid rounds.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Give me Mayer