Watkins practice notes

[fivetwos]

Since we've been using a 4-2-5, Winters would probably be considered the SLB with Downs in the nickel being the WLB.

I'm not sure who's out there or how they are aligning when they are in the heavier package, the 3-4 looks. I'm hoping Barham can win some snaps there at MLB, pushing Overshown to the other ILB spot where he can use his speed to run to the ball since that spot is better protected by the DL.

Thanks, was hoping youd answer. This stuff confuses me regardless, and it’s worse since I haven’t even seen the configurations and who is where etc…That comment struck me as odd though.

People around here are clamoring for another LB, meanwhile they aren’t using the one they traded for?

I realize CP wants an extra DB, and the versatility of both Thompson and Downs should help that cause. Normally I’d get bad Quinn flashbacks of not enough size on the second level, but the guys up front are dramatically different so they just might get away with it.

I will say that for some reason I trust this coordinator more than I have any coach here in a very long time. I think he gets it done. Then of course leaves. Please win first lol.

 

[nate dizzle]

Ceedee Lamb just before the drop.

CD bringing in a CTE ball from Dak

 

[jazzcat22]

It's the new defense the double middle line backer formation!! Only in Dallas

3-4 = 4 LB's
2 in the middle 2 on the outside.

Football 101. Did you miss class?

 

[Coogiguy03]

3-4 = 4 LB's
2 in the middle 2 on the outside.

Football 101. Did you miss class?

Is there the same amount when they're in the nickel

 

[Rockport]

I prefer Mofo.

 

[AsthmaField]

I prefer Madagascar Phil. Sounds the name of a treasure hunter, and that has usually translated to well for power backs

 

[Teague31]

There's something seriously wrong with this guy and I love it.

Pet cat for sure

 

[Kwyn]

He will forever be known as Phil Madagascar. Mafah for short.

 

[speedkilz88]

Probably PI in a real game.

I saw a different tweet that said it was flagged.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Mingo has been thrown BALLS AND given a chance, things happen when you are given opportunities

Trade? For a low round pick.that can go up based on performance and playing time

 

[Coogiguy03]

Trade? For a low round pick.that can go up based on performance and playing time

no thanks because we know someone won't make it the whole season, we're going to need all the depth we have

 

[gimmesix]

Thanks, was hoping youd answer. This stuff confuses me regardless, and it’s worse since I haven’t even seen the configurations and who is where etc…That comment struck me as odd though.

People around here are clamoring for another LB, meanwhile they aren’t using the one they traded for?

I realize CP wants an extra DB, and the versatility of both Thompson and Downs should help that cause. Normally I’d get bad Quinn flashbacks of not enough size on the second level, but the guys up front are dramatically different so they just might get away with it.

I will say that for some reason I trust this coordinator more than I have any coach here in a very long time. I think he gets it done. Then of course leaves. Please win first lol.

Because we're not really getting information on every look, I'm assuming that Parker is primarily using the 4-2-5 when the offense has three receivers on the field.

I do think some of the stuff that they were doing with Liufau is kind of interesting, starting him out on a play as a linebacker in what would look like a 4-3, then bringing him up on the line for essentially a 5-2 or 3-4 look before the snap. They could do this with Barham as well since he actually does have that experience last year of being an outside pass rusher.

The formation could look like a 4-3 presnap with Eze at RDE, Quinnen at 3-tech, Clark at 1-tech and Gary at LDE, then WLB Winters, MLB Barham and SLB Overshown. Then right before the snap, Barham moves onto the line for OLB Eze, DE Quinnen, NT Clark, DE Gary, OLB Barham and ILB Overshown and ILB Winters. The advantage of that is confusion since the offense wouldn't know who was coming and who was dropping into coverage. Of course, if none of the pass rushers are that good, it won't completely matter, but if you can get a guy unblocked, he doesn't have to be a great pass rusher.

 

[gimmesix]

I saw a different tweet that said it was flagged.

Pickens draws a lot of flags. He's good at it.

 

[Gambit]

He will forever be known as Phil Madagascar. Mafah for short.

Beat me to it!

 

[Gambit]

People around here are clamoring for another LB, meanwhile they aren’t using the one they traded for?

To be fair, the clamoring, for some at least was kicked up a notch when Jerry specifically said looking at trade for either that or pass rush help.

Add to that Stephens comments today about looking adding help with both a trade AND a vet signing.

Its starting give off the vibe that CP not Kerry or Stephen wants to improve there.

JTuck added fuel to fire with a massively too early take on LB play on Williams first long play after Madagascar Mafah fumbled the play before.

 

[fivetwos]

Because we're not really getting information on every look, I'm assuming that Parker is primarily using the 4-2-5 when the offense has three receivers on the field.

I do think some of the stuff that they were doing with Liufau is kind of interesting, starting him out on a play as a linebacker in what would look like a 4-3, then bringing him up on the line for essentially a 5-2 or 3-4 look before the snap. They could do this with Barham as well since he actually does have that experience last year of being an outside pass rusher.

The formation could look like a 4-3 presnap with Eze at RDE, Quinnen at 3-tech, Clark at 1-tech and Gary at LDE, then WLB Winters, MLB Barham and SLB Overshown. Then right before the snap, Barham moves onto the line for OLB Eze, DE Quinnen, NT Clark, DE Gary, OLB Barham and ILB Overshown and ILB Winters. The advantage of that is confusion since the offense wouldn't know who was coming and who was dropping into coverage. Of course, if none of the pass rushers are that good, it won't completely matter, but if you can get a guy unblocked, he doesn't have to be a great pass rusher.

Was wondering about the fits of inherited guys Liafau and James in this scheme.

Sounds as if you might be saying the former isn’t a fit in a nice way.

If they fit, I fail to see a depth problem until injuries start to hit.

 

[Whirlwin]

Probably PI in a real game.

Looks like he had position, and the receiver was going through him so I don’t think so

But you’re probably right, lol

 

[gimmesix]

Was wondering about the fits of inherited guys Liafau and James in this scheme.

Sounds as if you might be saying the former isn’t a fit in a nice way.

If they fit, I fail to see a depth problem until injuries start to hit.

I think Liufau at OLB is a way for the team to get around his lack of instincts. I think on an instinct level, he's close to Kenneth Murray Jr. Moving him onto the line simplifies his responsibilities. Trouble is, I don't know if he can regularly win against OTs as an OLB. It's a lot easier to blitz as a 4-3 linebacker, use the surprise and your speed to get through holes and generally only have to take on a tight end or running back blocking you. 3-4 OLBs regularly go against OTs that have length, size and strong hands to stop you if you don't have the speed, technique, length, bend, etc., to get around and fight through their blocks.

Now, while I don't really see Liufau succeeding because he doesn't have the instincts for ILB or the skills for OLB, I do think James is a good fit for the role that Winters will play. I think he has a similar skill set but just needs to gain some experience so that he doesn't take any false steps or get caught out of position.

 

[gimmesix]

Was wondering about the fits of inherited guys Liafau and James in this scheme.

Sounds as if you might be saying the former isn’t a fit in a nice way.

If they fit, I fail to see a depth problem until injuries start to hit.

I think when the Joneses talk about adding a linebacker, they mean an OLB/DE. I don't think we're considering ILB help because we've got one who has shown he can play linebacker at a high level when healthy and we traded for one who was a solid starter last year. Plus, we have last year's draft pick (James) and this year's draft pick (Barham).

Any concern we have is about the pass rushers. We don't have much that is proven there outside of Gary, and he's proven that he's more of a DeMarcus Lawrence-level pass rusher than a Micah Parsons, TJ Watt, Maxx Crosby, etc.

 

[big dog cowboy]

3-4 = 4 LB's
2 in the middle 2 on the outside.

Football 101. Did you miss class?

Just needs to learn football in general.

Proves how much he doesn't know daily.