CFZ Way too premature 53 man roster

gimmesix

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Some changes:

-Id cut Jefferson and keep Land. There could be some upside there. Dont really need 6 LB's with Kearse and Bell

- Id cut McKeon and Waletzco and keep Bostic and Bass. With Schoonmaker healthy, I don't think we need McKeon. Waletzco has looked bad. I think we would have a better shot at keeping him on the PS than Bostic and Bass

- Id keep Fehoko over Gallimore. Fehoko hasnt really shown anything, but neither has Gallimore. Fehoko still has some room to grow. We are thin either way, and a serviceable 3T is place Id consider a trade. Even of you are talking a guy somewhat jaggy
We're in agreement on all of those. With McKeon, we should be able to get him to the PS where he can contribute for a few games before having to make any more roster decisions. I'd do the same with Goodwin (like we've done before) because it just opens the door for players we feel we are more in danger of losing. I'd probably keep Thomas initially over Goodwin and then adjust after a few games when Goodwin runs out of call-ups.
 

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We're in agreement on all of those. With McKeon, we should be able to get him to the PS where he can contribute for a few games before having to make any more roster decisions. I'd do the same with Goodwin (like we've done before) because it just opens the door for players we feel we are more in danger of losing. I'd probably keep Thomas initially over Goodwin and then adjust after a few games when Goodwin runs out of call-ups.
I just said this in another thread, but its worth mentioning here too. If you have OL that could develop into playable players, you gotta try to find a way to hold them. A position like LB, you can pull depth off the street as good or better as Cox or Jefferson during the season of need be. I wouldn't have an issue going 4 deep at LB with Kearse and Bell on the roster
 

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I think they'll 86 Waltezko and bring in Peters.

Also, I have not heard much on Edoga's prognosis.

Fehoko is probably a lock. I don't think they try to PS a 4th rounder.
Waletzgo hurt ....same injury, other shoulder
Was season ending last yr
 

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I just said this in another thread, but its worth mentioning here too. If you have OL that could develop into playable players, you gotta try to find a way to hold them. A position like LB, you can pull depth off the street as good or better as Cox or Jefferson during the season of need be. I wouldn't have an issue going 4 deep at LB with Kearse and Bell on the roster
I wouldn't be upset by it. I haven't seen where either Cox or Jefferson appear to be too valuable to lose. Since we were able to put Jefferson on the PS last year, I'd bet we could get him there again. The new PS rules really make it an extension of the roster and teams have to calculate who is most likely to be able to make it there. I'd feel better about risking Cox and/or Jefferson to that process than Bass. Could see us even waiving Edoga and bringing him back on the PS to keep someone like Waletzko instead since vets are exempt from being claimed. Waletzko could then be inactive while we bring Edoga up for three games as a swing lineman. There's a lot more strategy involved now.

So maybe we end up with something like this with the TEs and OL:

Tight ends kept (3): Ferguson, Hendershot, Schoomaker
Practice squad: Sean McKeon

OL kept (10): Tyron, Tyler, Biadasz, Martin, Steele, Richards, Ball, Farniok, Bass, Waletzko
Practice squad: Edoga, Bostick and Taylor-Prioleau or Lindstrom (because we need a PS center)
 

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So where are we at halfway through the preseason schedule. I need something to occupy my mind still dealing with the Overshown injury. That just blows. Seemed like an ideal fit for Quinn and his desire to move people around to create confusion/mismatches.

QB (2) - Prescott, Rush
TB (3) - Pollard, Vaughn, Dowdle
WR (6) - Lamb, Gallup, Cooks, Tolbert, Turpin, Brooks
TE (4) - Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Hendershot, McKeon
OL (9) - Smith, Smith, Biadasz, Martin, Steele, Richards, Ball, Farniok, Waltezko

DE (4) - Lawrence, Williams, Armstrong, Fowler,
DT (5) - Hankins, Smith, Gallimore, Odi, Golston
LB (6) - Parsons, LVE, Clark, Cox, Harper, Jefferson
S (5) - Wilson, Hooker, Kearse, Mukuamu, Bell
CB (6) - Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, Joseph, Lewis, Goodwin

That's 50. Add three special teams dudes and that's your 53.

- I guess you could make Davis or Dowdle interchangeable but Dowdle has looked a little better. I suspect they could also be searching the cuts too for RB help. I might also be light there at TB as they may want 4 given Pollard is coming off injury. Maybe they drop a LB and add a 4th TB.

- If Riachards and Ball really are handling their business, OL depth isn't awful. Farniok is what he is and Waletzko seems to always be talked about positively but he seems to just get nicked up.

- Four DEs look light, I get it, but Parsons is basically a DE and Golston is a swing guy. Fehoko? Ehhh, try to practice squad him.

- I know people think Gallimore is getting cut but I think given there isn't much behind the Smith, Hankins, Odi trio, I think he sticks. Total disappointment for me. I thought he would develop into a real nice DT.

- I might be heavy at LB but again, Parsons is a DE too.

- Crazy as it sounds, Joseph seems to have at least held his own at CB although he's had some pretty noticeable gaffes at times. But if someone wants to swap out him for Wright, I guess I can't really complain.
Pretty good projection, couple of players who I think are still in contention for roster spots:

-G/T Edoka-not sure if his injury is short or long-term
-Fehoko DE-a 4th rd pick who the coaches reportedly like, did flash against Seattle
-Land-probably little to no chance he passes through waivers
-Thomas-he is the only true backup Free Safety on the roster, the rest are more hybrid types.

Bubble players

-McKeon, Brooks, Gallimore, Golston, Bohanna, Scott, Jefferson, Wright
 

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Anyone else wish the NFL would expand the roster? Even if it's just to 55.

With the longer season it just makes sense.
The roster should be 60 - 62. Do away with all the PS designations & game day rules. Have enough folks to practice and cover injuries. Play anyone at anytime.

Or a set number such as 50 plus your draft picks. So, if you made 8 draft picks you get to keep those 8 players for that year. Gives you two training camps before you have to make decision on someone you spent capital on.
 

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Nowhere does it say that they “don’t count on the 53”.

It’s one thing to be wrong, don’t make it worse by copping an attitude about it.

:facepalm:
you're the one that got mad, nothing to get mad over, Merry Christmas!!!!!!
 

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Anyone else wish the NFL would expand the roster? Even if it's just to 55.

With the longer season it just makes sense.
Oh yeah. I’ve long felt that if the owners want more games they need to have bigger rosters. It’s a battle of attrition in many ways given how physical the game is and how often injuries happen.
 

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So where are we at halfway through the preseason schedule. I need something to occupy my mind still dealing with the Overshown injury. That just blows. Seemed like an ideal fit for Quinn and his desire to move people around to create confusion/mismatches.

QB (2) - Prescott, Rush
TB (3) - Pollard, Vaughn, Dowdle
WR (6) - Lamb, Gallup, Cooks, Tolbert, Turpin, Brooks
TE (4) - Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Hendershot, McKeon
OL (9) - Smith, Smith, Biadasz, Martin, Steele, Richards, Ball, Farniok, Waltezko

DE (4) - Lawrence, Williams, Armstrong, Fowler,
DT (5) - Hankins, Smith, Gallimore, Odi, Golston
LB (6) - Parsons, LVE, Clark, Cox, Harper, Jefferson
S (5) - Wilson, Hooker, Kearse, Mukuamu, Bell
CB (6) - Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, Joseph, Lewis, Goodwin

That's 50. Add three special teams dudes and that's your 53.

- I guess you could make Davis or Dowdle interchangeable but Dowdle has looked a little better. I suspect they could also be searching the cuts too for RB help. I might also be light there at TB as they may want 4 given Pollard is coming off injury. Maybe they drop a LB and add a 4th TB.

- If Riachards and Ball really are handling their business, OL depth isn't awful. Farniok is what he is and Waletzko seems to always be talked about positively but he seems to just get nicked up.

- Four DEs look light, I get it, but Parsons is basically a DE and Golston is a swing guy. Fehoko? Ehhh, try to practice squad him.

- I know people think Gallimore is getting cut but I think given there isn't much behind the Smith, Hankins, Odi trio, I think he sticks. Total disappointment for me. I thought he would develop into a real nice DT.

- I might be heavy at LB but again, Parsons is a DE too.

- Crazy as it sounds, Joseph seems to have at least held his own at CB although he's had some pretty noticeable gaffes at times. But if someone wants to swap out him for Wright, I guess I can't really complain.
As of today, this would be my 53:

QB (2) - Prescott, Rush
TB (3) - Pollard, Vaughn, Dowdle
WR (6) - Lamb, Gallup, Cooks, Tolbert, Turpin, Brooks
TE (3) - Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Hendershot
OL (10) - Smith, Smith, Biadasz, Martin, Steele, Richards, Ball, Farniok, Jason Peters, Bass
DE (4) - Lawrence, Williams, Armstrong, Fowler,
DT (5) - Hankins, Smith, Fehoko, Odi, Golston
LB (6) - Parsons, LVE, Clark, Cox, Harper, Land
S (5) - Wilson, Hooker, Kearse, Mukuamu, Bell
CB (6) - Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, Joseph, Scott

Along with our three current core special teams specialists.
 

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As of today, this would be my 53:

QB (2) - Prescott, Rush
TB (3) - Pollard, Vaughn, Dowdle
WR (6) - Lamb, Gallup, Cooks, Tolbert, Turpin, Brooks
TE (3) - Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Hendershot
OL (10) - Smith, Smith, Biadasz, Martin, Steele, Richards, Ball, Farniok, Jason Peters, Bass
DE (4) - Lawrence, Williams, Armstrong, Fowler,
DT (5) - Hankins, Smith, Fehoko, Odi, Golston
LB (6) - Parsons, LVE, Clark, Cox, Harper, Land
S (5) - Wilson, Hooker, Kearse, Mukuamu, Bell
CB (6) - Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, Joseph, Scott

Along with our three current core special teams specialists.
That would likely be mine, too, except I'm not expecting Peters (probably Waletzko will be given another year to grow or Thomas gets that spot). I know some are against keeping Waletzko, but we felt the same way at this point about Ball and he's played well at guard this preseason going against starters. Don't like giving up on a player from a small school who really has less than a year under his belt.

I would put Edoga on the PS and bring him up for the first few games as the vet backup. Of course, if we could get Peters to do the PS vet role instead, I'd be good with that.
 

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As of today, this would be my 53:

QB (2) - Prescott, Rush
TB (3) - Pollard, Vaughn, Dowdle
WR (6) - Lamb, Gallup, Cooks, Tolbert, Turpin, Brooks
TE (3) - Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Hendershot
OL (10) - Smith, Smith, Biadasz, Martin, Steele, Richards, Ball, Farniok, Jason Peters, Bass
DE (4) - Lawrence, Williams, Armstrong, Fowler,
DT (5) - Hankins, Smith, Fehoko, Odi, Golston
LB (6) - Parsons, LVE, Clark, Cox, Harper, Land
S (5) - Wilson, Hooker, Kearse, Mukuamu, Bell
CB (6) - Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, Joseph, Scott

Along with our three current core special teams specialists.
This is close for me, but I don't believe they go 3 on TE. I think McKeon, as there best blocker, make the team.

My guess is Land to PS.
 

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This is close for me, but I don't believe they go 3 on TE. I think McKeon, as there best blocker, make the team.

My guess is Land to PS.
My guess is that Land will be so good against the Raiders that he will be kept on the 53.
 

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Fehoko is 267 on the roster. He's not making the roster as a DT over Gallimore. Golston is only 268.

There is not really much of a chance they go into the season with 2 pseudo DTs in their rotation that weigh less than 270. Now Fehoko making it ove Golston? That's a possibility.
Please. Just ignore player weights. They are seldom correct. It would be cool if they weighed and took 40 times and tested every player before each season and had current, accurate measures, but they dont. Or more likely is that they do know what the true weights are but never update anything publicly.
Golston was up to 280-285 last year.
Fehoko said after the combine he was close to 280 and working on adding more weight.
 
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