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[Hoofbite]

I think the whole "when Murray gets 20+ carries" argument is a little bit of backwards logic. If a team is running a ton, then they have the lead. If they're passing a ton, then the might be trying to catch up. It makes you wonder which is the symptom and which is the cure. Do teams run a lot because they have the lead, or have the lead because they run a lot?

Likely more running because you're winning but there are certainly instances where running has put you in the lead.

So I'd say both, but not to an equal extent.

For 20 carry games, Murray has 14 of them with and Dallas has 13 wins. Looks like 8 of them have been 1-score games.

I'm not sure many believe that simply running the ball will produce a win unless it's the rare 10 yards/carry game like Murrays monster against the Rams a while back.

 

[AsthmaField]

great question, so far, not a bad offseason, so i can and will give him credit for that, For me i just want Garrett to show he can turn it around, make the halftime adjustments, beleive in Linehan. Let the team do its job but when the team faulters, show he can turn it around.

Even if September is bad, but in October he gets it running smoothly. Im happy, even if its a 8-8 year. I can point at something and say "thats working" "there is something Dallas can point to and say "we do it and we do it well"

IM not asking for the moon and the stars, im not saying it has to be playoffs or nothing. im not even saying it has win all from here but i want him to point at this team and say "this is something we do, we do it well, and the NFL knows we do it well" THat can be running, that can be something on defense, it might even be special teams. but i want something that his fist can come down on and say "im starting with that." It might be the offense, it might be getting pressure on any qb, it can be returning punts on special teams" but he needs something strong, and there is nothing strong on this team yet.

There are some people i can say ok does it we, Tony, Dez, was Lee on D, possibly the waterboy, i dont know, but there is no one aspect of the team that is strong, that is unrelenting, that you know year in year out, good team, bad team, that that one singular aspect is good enough. I just dont see it yet.

Thats all i want, something strong, something that hurts good teams as well as bad. So far we can beat up bad teams, YEAH, now i wnat something that says "we do dmanage in the NFL" doenst have to be big, but does have to work.

That isn't unreasonable. I'm glad to see that you thought it was a pretty good off season. I too thought it was a good one because I like to see reasonably priced, younger role players rather than expensive, older players brought in to the team through free agency. It was about the best they could do because of cap troubles that were coming long before Garrett took over.

I certainly understand your position. If the run game and OL continue along this same path, then it looks like you'll get your wish for at least one part of the team that you can count on and that other teams really can't do much about. Running against the 49'ers is very difficult, and the Rams were going to shut down the Dallas run game come hell-or-high-water... and Dallas still ran the ball well with Murray gaining 100 yards... against a Gregg Williams defense no less. Williams has always put solid run defending teams together and he can scheme against the run as well as anyone.

As a matter of fact, his determination to stop Murray was a big part of Romo's big day. If the run game continues like this, the offense is going to be really, really effective.

It is really a shame that Romo had his awful day against the niners because the rest of the team played well and the game plan was a good one. There is a good chance that without the turnovers, Dallas would be 3-0 and SF would be 0-3... and that would've been awesome.

Thanks for the reply SS.

 

[CCBoy]

What would it take for Garrett to prove himself to you?

Apprently when it is figured out who pays for the Selective Service system to work...

 

[CCBoy]

That isn't unreasonable. I'm glad to see that you thought it was a pretty good off season. I too thought it was a good one because I like to see reasonably priced, younger role players rather than expensive, older players brought in to the team through free agency. It was about the best they could do because of cap troubles that were coming long before Garrett took over.

I certainly understand your position. If the run game and OL continue along this same path, then it looks like you'll get your wish for at least one part of the team that you can count on and that other teams really can't do much about. Running against the 49'ers is very difficult, and the Rams were going to shut down the Dallas run game come hell-or-high-water... and Dallas still ran the ball well with Murray gaining 100 yards... against a Gregg Williams defense no less. Williams has always put solid run defending teams together and he can scheme against the run as well as anyone.

As a matter of fact, his determination to stop Murray was a big part of Romo's big day. If the run game continues like this, the offense is going to be really, really effective.

It is really a shame that Romo had his awful day against the niners because the rest of the team played well and the game plan was a good one. There is a good chance that without the turnovers, Dallas would be 3-0 and SF would be 0-3... and that would've been awesome.

Thanks for the reply SS.

I agree...it's the ah ha, Chinese learning process. But still valid.

There is plenty of areas this Dallas team needs to achieve through, to be legitimately considered a challenge to the NFC. But for this fan, they already are on solid foundations.

I can't stress how sold I am of the administrative and coaching elements of this team as it exists, today.

 

[Bullflop]

The Saints have been the Cowboys' kryptonite for years now, ever since Drew Brees entered the lineup. The guys on DC.com are merely reflecting that state of affairs in their predictions. I fail to see any valid reason why they shouldn't continue to call their predictions honestly, as long as they're based upon well-founded reasoning.

 

[Fredd]

I'd be upset, if I ever listened to that crew....

 

[CCBoy]

The Saints have been the Cowboys' kryptonite for years now, ever since Drew Brees entered the lineup. The guys on DC.com are merely reflecting that state of affairs in their predictions. I fail to see any valid reason why they shouldn't continue to call their predictions honestly, as long as they're based upon well-founded reasoning.

I'm laughing, and not at you Bullflop...

Saints coach Sean Payton and quarterback Drew Brees have been going out of their way to point out that Dallas' defense is not the same unit that New Orleans torched in the Superdome last season.

For just a starting point, over half of the defensive starters will be different from who started that game last season...as well as Rod Marinelli being promoted to Defensive Coordinator.

I'm just wondering what this game looks like when the Cowboys don't spot these Saints two up front touchdown scores?

 

[rynochop]

I think the whole "when Murray gets 20+ carries" argument is a little bit of backwards logic. If a team is running a ton, then they have the lead. If they're passing a ton, then the might be trying to catch up. It makes you wonder which is the symptom and which is the cure. Do teams run a lot because they have the lead, or have the lead because they run a lot?

I hate that stat. Why not just script the first 20 plays a run to (insert rb name) and you are guaranteed a win.

Colin Cowherd picked the cowboys fwiw. Couldnt believe that

 

[noshame]

I'm thinking these guys watched receivers running open in our defense the past 2 weeks and the other teams having qbs who could not hit them if they were ten feet away. Hence the skepticism.

 

[DallasJ7]

Given what this team has done in the Garrett era, it's very reasonable to pick against them in this game. They beat almost all the bad-to-average teams, and lose to almost all the decent-to-good teams, especially teams with a top flight QB. They'll beat a team that finishes with a winning record about once a year, and so far it's been against Alex Smith (2011), Andy Dalton (2012), and Nick Foles (2013).

The Cowboys need to prove they can beat a team like this before I'd predict it. Even if the Saints wind up with a worse record than most predicted, I'd be very surprised if they finished worse than 9-7. They're the more desperate team here too, trying to avoid a 1-3 hole.

 

[CCBoy]

I'm thinking these guys watched receivers running open in our defense the past 2 weeks and the other teams having qbs who could not hit them if they were ten feet away. Hence the skepticism.

Oh, definitely the conspiracy theory on the grassy knoll in Dallas, there...

 

[SDCowboy]

So they should pick us to win just because they're Cowboys' media? lol

 

[CCBoy]

Given what this team has done in the Garrett era, it's very reasonable to pick against them in this game. They beat almost all the bad-to-average teams, and lose to almost all the decent-to-good teams, especially teams with a top flight QB. They'll beat a team that finishes with a winning record about once a year, and so far it's been against Alex Smith (2011), Andy Dalton (2012), and Nick Foles (2013).

The Cowboys need to prove they can beat a team like this before I'd predict it. Even if the Saints wind up with a worse record than most predicted, I'd be very surprised if they finished worse than 9-7. They're the more desperate team here too, trying to avoid a 1-3 hole.

In that case, I'll take the 5th and Flip Wilson's, 'The Devil made me do it.'

 

[pacboyX]

They haven't picked us all year. I care very little about their predictions.

 

[Lonestar94]

Guess that means we win . The saints have had our number the last 3 match ups. i think its about our time

 

[kramskoi]

If Demarco gets over 25 carries we win this game. Romo has to stick to the run and don't try to get into a shootout with Brees. Hopefully Garrett and Linahan will keep him on a short leash with the Audibles this game.

Hopefully it will be their choice to stay with the run. The defense will have plenty to say about this as well, but a healthy dose of o-line "road grading" can be a really good thing for keeping Bobby Hebert's so-called "greatest show on turf" from getting the tent up! I would love to hear him wailing, lamenting and grinding his teeth on the "second-guess show".

 

[ShiningStar]

That isn't unreasonable. I'm glad to see that you thought it was a pretty good off season. I too thought it was a good one because I like to see reasonably priced, younger role players rather than expensive, older players brought in to the team through free agency. It was about the best they could do because of cap troubles that were coming long before Garrett took over.

I certainly understand your position. If the run game and OL continue along this same path, then it looks like you'll get your wish for at least one part of the team that you can count on and that other teams really can't do much about. Running against the 49'ers is very difficult, and the Rams were going to shut down the Dallas run game come hell-or-high-water... and Dallas still ran the ball well with Murray gaining 100 yards... against a Gregg Williams defense no less. Williams has always put solid run defending teams together and he can scheme against the run as well as anyone.

As a matter of fact, his determination to stop Murray was a big part of Romo's big day. If the run game continues like this, the offense is going to be really, really effective.

It is really a shame that Romo had his awful day against the niners because the rest of the team played well and the game plan was a good one. There is a good chance that without the turnovers, Dallas would be 3-0 and SF would be 0-3... and that would've been awesome.

Thanks for the reply SS.

Wonderful post **. I agree with you about San fran seeing it from your point of view, thanks for sharing your thoughts as well.

 

[Tenkamenin]

The thing that's killing us are these long drives that we're giving up. Teams are methodically driving down the field on us sustaining long drives. I was horrified to see the Rams march on us with ease in the first half although they folded in the second half. The difference this week is that the Saints have a strong offense and I doubt they'll fold, if they get up on us and can control the tempo of the game is over.

 

[kramskoi]

Given what this team has done in the Garrett era, it's very reasonable to pick against them in this game. They beat almost all the bad-to-average teams, and lose to almost all the decent-to-good teams, especially teams with a top flight QB. They'll beat a team that finishes with a winning record about once a year, and so far it's been against Alex Smith (2011), Andy Dalton (2012), and Nick Foles (2013).

The Cowboys need to prove they can beat a team like this before I'd predict it. Even if the Saints wind up with a worse record than most predicted, I'd be very surprised if they finished worse than 9-7. They're the more desperate team here too, trying to avoid a 1-3 hole.

Well the talk in New Orleans has fallen FAR from all the rosy predictions about Seattle, SuperBowls and home field advantage. They were sweating bullets against the Vikings at 13-9...behind what seemed like a plan to simply let them self-destruct...at least before Brees got slammed to the turf. They were sleep-walking toward oblivion even then. Everybody drank the kool-aid being spouted by Hebert, Detillier and others. They were even talking 14-2 and 13-3 for season records. How many times have we heard this before? Remember the Eagles a few years ago? Trophy right out of the gate, before even one game had been played...the result? As you well know...unmitigated dumpster fire of a season. They know as little about their team as the Cowboys right now. The ink has some drying to do yet.

 

[CCBoy]

The thing that's killing us are these long drives that we're giving up. Teams are methodically driving down the field on us sustaining long drives. I was horrified to see the Rams march on us with ease in the first half although they folded in the second half. The difference this week is that the Saints have a strong offense and I doubt they'll fold, if they get up on us and can control the tempo of the game is over.

Even a bend but don't break team has to learn to piece it together correctly...give it some time and legitimate observation time.