We are not better without Dez

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For the one hundred millionth time.....it's not about being better or worse with or without Dez. It's whether his production is worth the salary.
That has absolutely nothing to do with it

We are well under the cap and have 30m in space on the shelf

If he is a little overpaid that is IRRELEVANT

whether or not he makes the team better is the only question

NEXT......
 
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"Don't mention reality, because it ruins my theory."

12.5mil would fill plenty of needs. There are always veteran cap casualties. Guys who can still play, but aren't living up to their contracts. Like Dez.

Cut Dez. We should have cut him last year.
Don't mention it because we are over 35m away from it mattering

When we spend another 35m then we can talk if Dez is a little overpaid

We rolled over 10m this year and left 30m on the shelf last year

So......NEXT
 

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Crawford signed a new deal in the Spring of 2015 that called for him to be paid $45,675,000 over the next 6 season, from 2015 thru 2020. That deal averages $7,612,500 per season, not $10M per year. The deal was based on him playing the 3-tech DT position. Because of injuries, and suspensions, Crawford was pressed into duty at DE, where he grades out as an above average Dline player, but certainly NOT high quality or Elite. Elite DE's get paid $17M per season, not $7.6M per season. Until some younger player displaces him as a starter, he may be slightly overpaid. But when you consider how he doesn't get hurt, and how much the NFL is paying for players like Hitchens, his salary is not as far out of line as you might think.

Now, do the Cowboys need an upgrade? ABSOLUTELY!! That's why they spent a 2nd round pick on Randy Gregory and a 1st round pick on Taco Charlton, and a very high 4th round pick on Charles Tapper. But to date, not one of them has been able to play as consistently good as Crawford. It's one thing to complain about Crawford. It's another to realize the Cowboys have spent 3 premium draft picks trying to upgrade him, and none of those picks has panned out...yet.
Thank you

Another player that is so wrongfully persecuted

Cut Tapper and Collins and Jones and Taco and Price and Ash and Neal before you cut TCrawford

Unless you are using his money to sign a boy named Suh
 

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Don't mention it because we are over 35m away from it mattering

When we spend another 35m then we can talk if Dez is a little overpaid

We rolled over 10m this year and left 30m on the shelf last year

So......NEXT

You've shared your theory that cap management in a capped league doesn't matter before. It's still nonsense.
 

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He gets paid 10 mill a season& got a whopping 4sacks this season& that's down from the previous season when he got a world dominating 4&half sacks, but yet he's worth it. he plays several positions because he can't play one whole& effective enough where he wouldn't play several....he's too slow to be a end...he's too small to play on the inside. Out of position player(o.o.p) that doesn't have a special position but yet y'all feel as if he deserves it..man gtfohwtbs. he doesn't get the most pressure D law does& has when he's healthy like this past year& why becuz he has a natural position, he doesn't play everywhere as u claimed becuz he's good enough@one(made pro bowls)(All 2nd team NFL)& What has Crawford done to warrant such a contract like that,what year he balled out & we were like we gotta keep Crawford he's a monster, pay that man! I know why but this forum wouldn't want the truth so we'll stick with ur thinking (cowboys thinking) o.o.p players deserving 10 mill a season, but somehow wanna question Dez when his peers are making(money) comprable or more i.e. Watkins,etc & Crawford peers, well u tell me who gets 10 mill a season for the production of a 3rd,4th rounders results.this very thinking is why we are who we are!
I couldn't agree with you more, Crawford is a Bum. I would've rather have kept Mayowa and dumped Crawford, I don't care if that meant no cap relief.
 

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You Dezerters can create a million different threads all trying to put down Bryant but we are not a better team if we cut him.......PERIOD

If we can trade him and get fair value like a 3rd round pick then we could recoup some of the loss but we will still be worse in 2018 ......AHurns and DThompson are secondary pieces, not stars...... Dez is a star

And don't mention his money either....what are we going to spend it on ???..... and we can still create more space by keeping him....... just like DWare a few years ago...... we got worse as a team by cutting him....who cares if Dez is overpaid by 2-4m??? We are 6m under the cap right now

We didn't sign Mathieu or Suh or SRichardson or a real LBer.....just some more dumpster diving that feels like shopping in Beverly Hills after skipping the first 10 days of FA......don't be fooled

CFleming
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DThompson are JAGs just like CThornton, BBell, NCarroll, SPaea

We can't afford to give away legitimate stars like Dez...... that is just plain dumb and so many Mock Fans are actually rooting for it....... Here's Your Sign
If he keeps dropping balls he is no good to anybody. It sure would be nice to hear from Dez that he Is working out in the off season catching 500 balls a day from the jugs machine and running 5 miles a day.
 

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If he keeps dropping balls he is no good to anybody. It sure would be nice to hear from Dez that he Is working out in the off season catching 500 balls a day from the jugs machine and running 5 miles a day.
Nice strawman

NEXT
 

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So much wrong with this post

NEXT
like a previous poster pointed out...10 million a year yet never had more than 8 sacks in a year, No pro bowls, often injured, lost his starting position twice (Irving,Collins) and playing out of position which he has no business being the RDE. all that adds up to a Bum.
 

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You Dezerters can create a million different threads all trying to put down Bryant but we are not a better team if we cut him.......PERIOD

If we can trade him and get fair value like a 3rd round pick then we could recoup some of the loss but we will still be worse in 2018 ......AHurns and DThompson are secondary pieces, not stars...... Dez is a star

And don't mention his money either....what are we going to spend it on ???..... and we can still create more space by keeping him....... just like DWare a few years ago...... we got worse as a team by cutting him....who cares if Dez is overpaid by 2-4m??? We are 6m under the cap right now

We didn't sign Mathieu or Suh or SRichardson or a real LBer.....just some more dumpster diving that feels like shopping in Beverly Hills after skipping the first 10 days of FA......don't be fooled

CFleming
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DThompson are JAGs just like CThornton, BBell, NCarroll, SPaea

We can't afford to give away legitimate stars like Dez...... that is just plain dumb and so many Mock Fans are actually rooting for it....... Here's Your Sign
:hammer:
The cut Dez at all costs notion is riddiculous.
 

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I am almost half-hoping Dallas screws up and lets Dez go. Then, we can see this subpar offense really take a hit.

Dez still has gas in the tank, problem is that he is in the wrong car :grin:
 

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like a previous poster pointed out...10 million a year yet never had more than 8 sacks in a year, No pro bowls, often injured, lost his starting position twice (Irving,Collins) and playing out of position which he has no business being the RDE. all that adds up to a Bum.
He doesn't get 10m....he gets 7.6m APY

He isn't paid to just get sacks ...... he allows guys like DLaw to succeed

He is a GREAT teammate and worth every penny of his 6m salary this year
 

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His 2017 contract was only guaranteed after we kept him through the 5th league day. Didn't have to do that. Could have moved on.

Do you ever get anything right?
It guaranteed after the 5th day of 2016 season genius........DURRRRR
 

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Today's Dez is okay to keep, BUT NOT AT ANYTHING OVER $7 MILLION. Everybody knows it, so why act dumb? What's more important to you? Dez the player or the Dallas Cowboys team? Make a choice.
 
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