We have a Damone Clark problem

[baltcowboy]

A healthy Overshown at off ball linebacker with Bell replacing Kearse as the 3rd safety with Clark at the Mike sounds promising to me.

 

[ak47kaehu]

He’s slow to react.

He doesn’t have great instincts in diagnosing plays.

This team desperately needs help at LB.

I agree.....but not every player is as cerebral as Sean Lee. Clark has only been in this current role for less than a season.

 

[kskboys]

The problem isn’t that he sucks - or that he’s a weak link - or that he’s cfl slow we all can see that.

The problem is McCarthy jones and Quinn think he’s part of a winning equation..

Lacks agility and instincts. The real problem is that we bought into the hoopla instead of closely examining his skillset. SOP for this GM.

 

[kskboys]

A healthy Overshown at off ball linebacker with Bell replacing Kearse as the 3rd safety with Clark at the Mike sounds promising to me.

Clark is a backup. The MLB needs to be able to make calls and organize the D, and must have the quickness, instincts, and agility to make plays inside. Clark doesn't possess these traits.

 

[KingintheNorth]

A healthy Overshown at off ball linebacker with Bell replacing Kearse as the 3rd safety with Clark at the Mike sounds promising to me.

Will have the same issues they are having now.

I like Overshown but one, he's not the savior some of you are pretending he is and two, run defense is not his speciality.

 

[baltcowboy]

Will have the same issues they are having now.

I like Overshown but one, he's not the savior some of you are pretending he is and two, run defense is not his speciality.

I am not saying he is a savior but we do miss him. There was a plan for Overshown in the preseason. This was no Duece situation.

 

[MikeT22]

The problem is we have a drafting problem

 

[quickccc]

Kearse is more of a problem and he has a replacement better than him, but DQ won't make the move.

I tend to wonder if Kearse's body is beaten up and it's taken a toll.

is something going on with Wilson? , as he has not been as intimidating, physical and big play creator
like '22. Does it seem like Quinn is playing him more deeper in coverage this year,
than what he was near line last year ?

 

[KingintheNorth]

The problem is we have a drafting problem

Ehh.


They have improved significantly.

The issue is as McClay and the scouts start having success, Jerry wants to involve himself more and more. The more he's involved, the worst the (player personnel) decisions are.

GM's watch a ton of film. They do their homework. Talk to scouts, coaches, etc.

Jerry likes a guy because he was roommates with his grandson or the son of an employee.

 

[MikeT22]

Ehh.


They have improved significantly.

The issue is as McClay and the scouts start having success, Jerry wants to involve himself more and more. The more he's involved, the worst the (player personnel) decisions are.

GM's watch a ton of film. They do their homework. Talk to scouts, coaches, etc.

Jerry likes a guy because he was roommates with his grandson or the son of an employee.

Yes they have done pretty good in the first round. But way too many failed gambles in the 2nd. Not to mention rarely finding OL outside of the first.

And this past years draft looks abysmal so far. It looks like 3/4’s of the class is redshirting or something.

 

[Creeper]

The problem isn’t that he sucks - or that he’s a weak link - or that he’s cfl slow we all can see that.

The problem is McCarthy jones and Quinn think he’s part of a winning equation..

I don't know that this is true. If LVE was healthy Clark would be playing part time. If Overshown didn't get hurt Clark might not be playing at all.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Yes they have done pretty good in the first round. But way too many failed gambles in the 2nd. Not to mention rarely finding OL outside of the first.

And this past years draft looks abysmal so far. It looks like 3/4’s of the class is redshirting or something.

Agreed.

Jerry is heavily involved in the 1st and 2nd round. 3rd and later he tends to not know the names (unless related or associated with his family/employees). That's when McClay and the scouts take over. I'm curious to what John Park's influence will be as well.

I get you on the OL outside the 1st, but Asim Richards may break that streak. Josh Ball and Matt Weletzko have been unimpressive so far.

I saw McClay this year at camp and told him his Day 3 DB guy is winning. He said, "that's me". Bland is a stud, Mukuamu seems like an intriguing, versatile player (not sure why he doesn't play more), and hopefully Eric Scott can develop.

 

[quickccc]

Clark was a 5th round pick, who club had rated higher based off ability, if not for the medical neck risk.
He was also in the mix as candidate for Dick Butkus award for best college LB.
That's a hidden gem, low risk/high reward pick so it was not an high investment.

Maybe he's the type that comes on late. But i'm not for waiting for him on that.
If he does eventually proves a late bloomer, then he adds luxury.

We have to load this position up. Overshown is a start but we really need to add
two more per starter types, imo. LVE should be gone, so that opens it up.
and i'm challenging Clark's starting role so that's another.

I have my doubts that he's a natural playmaker. Great instincts vs average instincts.
I think he has the workout numbers athletically. but does it translate to the playing field ?
And the INTs, peanut punch fumbles, sacks, tackles for losses ?
And I'm for keeping an eye on him vs run and per coverage.
But thus far late in 2nd year, I haven't been impressed with Damone Clark.

 

[charron]

No.
They had Micah as well, and started playing him at MLB on run downs in this game.
Should have been the plan all along.

Yes they should have but he's not the greatest LB either. He's ok. Better than Clark but Clark ain't that good either.

 

[MikeT22]

Agreed.

Jerry is heavily involved in the 1st and 2nd round. 3rd and later he tends to not know the names (unless related or associated with his family/employees). That's when McClay and the scouts take over. I'm curious to what John Park's influence will be as well.

I get you on the OL outside the 1st, but Asim Richards may break that streak. Josh Ball and Matt Weletzko have been unimpressive so far.

I saw McClay this year at camp and told him his Day 3 DB guy is winning. He said, "that's me". Bland is a stud, Mukuamu seems like an intriguing, versatile player (not sure why he doesn't play more), and hopefully Eric Scott can develop.

Bland has been a pleasant surprise. But Joseph, Nashon Wright, Mukuama, Reggie Robinson all duds/busts. Scott has been inactive/invisible so far.

It’s also no wonder why we have no depth at OL. Ball, Waletzki, Farniok have shown nothing. Prior to that McGovern was a dud. Connor Williams was so-so but now long gone. Steele is rough yet still managed an extension. Richards is another rookie unknown. Can’t sustain only using 1sts on OL but that’s the only way we can get a quality starter.

 

[Mr_437]

I tend to wonder if Kearse's body is beaten up and it's taken a toll.

is something going on with Wilson? , as he has not been as intimidating, physical and big play creator
like '22. Does it seem like Quinn is playing him more deeper in coverage this year,
than what he was near line last year ?

I have the same questions and confusion to wth is DQ doing with these Ss?

 

[buybuydandavis]

Yes they should have but he's not the greatest LB either. He's ok. Better than Clark but Clark ain't that good either.

Probably could be pretty damn great at LB. Can cover, can blitz, can pursue and tackle all at a high level.

Was good as a rookie playing LB. Sky's the limit for what he could be at LB if we played him there.

At the combine ran a 4.36 at 235. And he's not just a straight line runner.

Parsons is a superfreak. I bet he could be play 5 or 6 positions.

 

[quickccc]

Bland has been a pleasant surprise. But Joseph, Nashon Wright, Mukuama, Reggie Robinson all duds/busts. Scott has been inactive/invisible so far.

It’s also no wonder why we have no depth at OL. Ball, Waletzki, Farniok have shown nothing. Prior to that McGovern was a dud. Connor Williams was so-so but now long gone. Steele is rough yet still managed an extension. Richards is another rookie unknown. Can’t sustain only using 1sts on OL but that’s the only way we can get a quality starter.

And I tend to wonder if the club is gonna lowball starting center Tyler Biasdaz with a B or C tier offer and
go after a highly regarded center in the NFL draft this coming offseason.

If the club really thinks there was a definite injury that severely limited Tyler B. that made it
a A to B difference in his play this year. He was a pro bowl alternate last year in '22.
But he has been very average this year, such that he's had problems even getting to 2nd level.

I tend to worry about Steele. He's not gonna return to his pre-ACL form this year in '23.
And it's been said that it takes a full year post-ACL recover to have a chance at previous form.

- Do we gamble that Steele returns anew and better in '24 after offseason program/camp ?
- Or do we pursue a new RT early rounds in this upcoming NFL draft ?
- Do we return Tyron Smith another year ? When do we move Tyler Smith to LT ?
- Oh yes, we will /should continue to draft and groom backup OL guys. Only Richards gives me plus future hope.

 

[Beaker42]

LB is a major off-season priority.

Problem is outside of Patrick Queen or Devin White, I don't see a lot of quality in free agency. And we all know the Cowboys are scared poopless of premium free agents.

The draft doesn't look great either. Payton Wilson (NC State) is older (turns 24 just before the draft) and has had some injuries (two knees and a shoulder), but he reminds me of Fred Warner. I really like Ty'Ron Hopper from Missouri but he's under 225 lbs.

IMO IT’S THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE we have. We need two starters because Clark blows and the. Other is a 205 lb guy playing LB. We also need speed at S and help at DT.

 

[Beaker42]

And I tend to wonder if the club is gonna lowball starting center Tyler Biasdaz with a B or C tier offer and
go after a highly regarded center in the NFL draft this coming offseason.

If the club really thinks there was a definite injury that severely limited Tyler B. that made it
a A to B difference in his play this year. He was a pro bowl alternate last year in '22.
But he has been very average this year, such that he's had problems even getting to 2nd level.

I tend to worry about Steele. He's not gonna return to his pre-ACL form this year in '23.
And it's been said that it takes a full year post-ACL recover to have a chance at previous form.

- Do we gamble that Steele returns anew and better in '24 after offseason program/camp ?
- Or do we pursue a new RT early rounds in this upcoming NFL draft ?
- Do we return Tyron Smith another year ? When do we move Tyler Smith to LT ?
- Oh yes, we will /should continue to draft and groom backup OL guys. Only Richards gives me plus future hope.

Biadasz can go. He’s average.