We held the best offense in the NFL to one touchdown

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No. The TEAM had the lead with 3:39.
Offenses don't have leads. Defenses don't have leads. The team does.
There is plenty of blame to go around, but the defense held the best offense in the league to a very respectable (and very beatable) 22 points. So, people whining and acting like it's all on them sound stupid.
It's definitely not all on the offense, and especially not all one one player (Dak or Leupke), but of the two sides of the ball, the offense is the one that performed more below expectations.
It was the offensive playcalling. McCarthy went away from passing at CeeDee......or the Dolphins adjusted their coverage after the 1st quarter to shut down CeeDee. Either/Or or both things happened. That was the problem offensively, besides our Oline continuing to play like crap this season.

Plus, Dan Quinn's defense continues to fail to stop opposing offenses and force them to punt from their side of the 50 yard line. Instead, Quinn's defense keeps giving up points, even if it's FGs. Not good. Dominating defenses stop their opponents from scoring. Period.
 

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Nobody wants to mention that the Dolphins have maybe the most explosive offense in the league, while their defense is middle of the road.

Holding them to 22 points should have been enough for a win.
the dolphins lead the league in sacks and were missing jalen ramsey for the first two months of the season. their defense is very good. they were missing three offensive linemen though
 

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i mean it did. that fumble had them on the 1 yard line and the D gave up a 50 yd pass. i don’t understand why yall are so insistent on blaming a unit.
It really didnt


You really think the entire game wouldve unfolded the same way if we score 7 there instead of fumbling? Lol
 

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It really didnt


You really think the entire game wouldve unfolded the same way if we score 7 there instead of fumbling? Lol
no, of course not. i don’t mean in the literal sense. i think we win the game had we scored there though, and that the after effects of the swing haunted us all game.
 

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You certainly do hold onto your hypocrisy don't you?

Both sides underperformed if you ask me. But one side in closing moments did what it took to be in position to win.
No hypocrisy at all. Do you even know what that word means? Me being entirely consistent is not hypocritical. Get a dictionary.
I would say I was also disappointed in both units, more so the offense. Neither were horrible. Neither were strong.

The "closing moments" aren't some magical part of the game. The rest of the game matters just as much. There's no bonus points for doing something well at the end. It's the overall that matters.

So...why haven't you responded to my query?
 

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It was the offensive playcalling. McCarthy went away from passing at CeeDee......or the Dolphins adjusted their coverage after the 1st quarter to shut down CeeDee. Either/Or or both things happened. That was the problem offensively, besides our Oline continuing to play like crap this season.

Plus, Dan Quinn's defense continues to fail to stop opposing offenses and force them to punt from their side of the 50 yard line. Instead, Quinn's defense keeps giving up points, even if it's FGs. Not good. Dominating defenses stop their opponents from scoring. Period.

It is a shame the defense is so near the bottom of league in points allowed. And that they barely get turnovers or score themselves...
 

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I've said it before, there are times I hate sticking up for him. I only do it because the hyperbole runs so strong. Like the first Eagles game. He played his tail off and was roasted for not making the pylon. It erased his entire effort. I don't believe that is an accurate way to evaluate.
Completely agree that evaluations should be fair. I am the opposite side of the coin. He would play like garbage & I would come on here & folks acting like he was the GOAT. IMO generally there are 80-90% of plays that are pretty easy to evaluate \ grade if one is being honest & unbiased. The rest, people can see them somewhat differently but even then there should be a pretty easy "range" to agree upon. When you have folks 100% to either end of the spectrum on those plays someone has to not just be wrong but way wrong.
 
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It is a shame the defense is so near the bottom of league in points allowed. And that they barely get turnovers or score themselves...
Yes, the defense is ranked 5th best at average points given up per game (19.1), yet giving up 22 points against the Bills would have placed the defense's rank at 17th for the week. Which means "average" out of 32 teams.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T&sort=ptsgm

Funny how you failed to recognize that.
 

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Yes, the defense is ranked 5th best at average points given up per game (19.1), yet giving up 22 points against the Bills would have placed the defense's rank at 17th for the week. Which means "average" out of 32 teams.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T&sort=ptsgm

Funny how you failed to recognize that.
Buffalo? For the week?

Failed to recognize what exactly? That teams will not score or give up the same amount every week? That sometimes a defense will give up more than it's average, and sometimes it will give up less? Same for offenses?
Or that the opponent is also a factor in any given week. For example, the game this thread is focused on (Miami, not Buffalo, in case you were confused) is the top scoring offense in the league. They scored 71% of their average. In other words, they were held to 30% less than their average.

Of course, in general, teams will give up higher than their address against good offenses, and lower than their average against poor offenses.

I think what some of you have failed to recognize is that the Cowboys defense was not playing the NY Jets out there. Or, maybe you just don't think there is any difference?

Or, some of you just aren't capable of assigning ANY blame in certain directions, so suggestions that certain areas aren't 100% at fault is just something you can't accept.
 

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Buffalo? For the week?

Failed to recognize what exactly? That teams will not score or give up the same amount every week? That sometimes a defense will give up more than it's average, and sometimes it will give up less? Same for offenses?
Or that the opponent is also a factor in any given week. For example, the game this thread is focused on (Miami, not Buffalo, in case you were confused) is the top scoring offense in the league. They scored 71% of their average. In other words, they were held to 30% less than their average.

Of course, in general, teams will give up higher than their address against good offenses, and lower than their average against poor offenses.

I think what some of you have failed to recognize is that the Cowboys defense was not playing the NY Jets out there. Or, maybe you just don't think there is any difference?

Or, some of you just aren't capable of assigning ANY blame in certain directions, so suggestions that certain areas aren't 100% at fault is just something you can't accept.
Miami has been the #1 scoring team because of opponents with poor defenses who have failed to keep them in check. I didn't see anything special about the Dolphins. Yes, I misspoke when I said Buffalo but was referring to the Dolphins. Heck, had Dan Quinn got his head out of his rear end and played bump-n-run with a safety over the top, the Cowboys could and should have neutralized Tyreek Hill. Hell, man, Dan Quinn gave the game away by giving 12+ yard cushions to Tyreek Hill!!! WTH do you call that??? Yet, you're here thumping your chest bragging about Dan Quinn and his horrible scheme calling? Are you serious? We have the talent where we should have played tough man coverage/bump-n-run coverage to shut down those overrated Dolphins chumps! Instead, Dan Quinn played like a chicken crap and allowed Tyreek Hill to run free with such atrocious cushions all game long. Wake the hell up!
 

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Miami has been the #1 scoring team because of opponents with poor defenses who have failed to keep them in check. I didn't see anything special about the Dolphins. Yes, I misspoke when I said Buffalo but was referring to the Dolphins. Heck, had Dan Quinn got his head out of his rear end and played bump-n-run with a safety over the top, the Cowboys could and should have neutralized Tyreek Hill. Hell, man, Dan Quinn gave the game away by giving 12+ yard cushions to Tyreek Hill!!! WTH do you call that??? Yet, you're here thumping your chest bragging about Dan Quinn and his horrible scheme calling? Are you serious? We have the talent where we should have played tough man coverage/bump-n-run coverage to shut down those overrated Dolphins chumps! Instead, Dan Quinn played like a chicken crap and allowed Tyreek Hill to run free with such atrocious cushions all game long. Wake the hell up!
Wow, you guys just to make up what other people do don't you?
I'm not in any way "chest bragging" about the defense.
But you on the other hand are just completely dismissing the Dolphins as a legitimate offense.

One thing didn't happen. The other is an incredibly stupid thing to do.
 

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Outside the first drive with the fumble, offense failed to score on 3 possessions. They took the lead late in the 4th.

The defense, on the very last drive of the game, immediately gives up a 21 yard run capped with a 15 yard penalty. Then allows Tua 5/6 completions for another 31 yards.

I need a venn diagram with the people blaming Dak on this one and the people who have complained he's not clutch when Dallas has the ball last.
 

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Wow, you guys just to make up what other people do don't you?
I'm not in any way "chest bragging" about the defense.
But you on the other hand are just completely dismissing the Dolphins as a legitimate offense.

One thing didn't happen. The other is an incredibly stupid thing to do.
You can't see the forest for the trees because of your Dak hatred. You're blinding yourself.
 
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