We Lost to All 4 Teams Left

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Hostile;2571829 said:
Naw, that would suck.

Only because there's too many presleazin games and meaningless regular season games. I think they should shorten the regular season games by one game or two, and focus more on division rivalry, get rid of preseason altogether, and make the playoffs more meaningful with regards to finding out who is the best team.... but again I'm sure I'm in the minority.
 

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Kilyin;2571837 said:
Only because there's too many presleazin games and meaningless regular season games. I think they should shorten the regular season games by one game or two, and focus more on division rivalry, get rid of preseason altogether, and make the playoffs more meaningful with regards to finding out who is the best team.... but again I'm sure I'm in the minority.
You are with me. I would hate that change. Not dislike it, I would hate it.
 

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Future;2571825 said:
We were down to like our 4th string safety...and yet played better. Something changed on that defense that didn't change on offense, regardless of injuries.

Our offense that last two or three weeks still had the talent to play with anybody. Kosier was the only injury that really hurt us because we still got a ton of production from Choice.

Normally, I think injuries are a very valid excuse for teams. Had the Pats only gone 8-8 or something, you could point squarely to Brady being out. We went 1-1 without Romo and the loss was to a team in Stl that some colleges could compete with.

This team lacked confidence, swagger, comfort and a killer instinct. Every player in the league should have that. We have all the talent, but none of that stuff.

Actually, we went 1-2, the Giants beat us too.
 

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Thomas82;2571859 said:
Actually, we went 1-2, the Giants beat us too.
Whoops, I had erased that game from memory:bang2: :laugh2:
 

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jterrell;2571814 said:
We didn't even have the best 22 players in Dallas.

Hard to call Barber even present, Felix was on IR, Kosier was on on IR and his friggin backup was as well. But more importantly Tony Romo looked like an old man the last 6 weeks of the season. That's exactly opposite of how he plays. Making stupid mistakes is one thing but barely being able to move and just tossing up ducks is altogether different. He wasn't gambling, he was tossing up prayers.

If Dallas the last 5 weeks again they wouldn't be favored in any of them and shouldn't be because they weren't more talented than those teams once you factor in who was on the field and not who is on the roster.

You know how Philly went from all but done to where they are? Health. They got guys back like Westbrook and DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis. They actually have more talent now than they did earlier in the year and it shows.

Dallas had a ton of key injuries on offense and then lost the pro bowl level punter. The defense was healthier and not surprisingly played better. But you don't lose 2 phases of each game and win very often.

There is a reason teams go from out of the playoffs to the Super Bowl and vice versa. Because health and schedule are such a big part of this parity league.


what the hell?

i was saying we barely have 11 good players on this team.

easy there now.

perhaps you need a brandy.
 

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Future;2571825 said:
We were down to like our 4th string safety...and yet played better. Something changed on that defense that didn't change on offense, regardless of injuries.

Our offense that last two or three weeks still had the talent to play with anybody. Kosier was the only injury that really hurt us because we still got a ton of production from Choice.

Normally, I think injuries are a very valid excuse for teams. Had the Pats only gone 8-8 or something, you could point squarely to Brady being out. We went 1-1 without Romo and the loss was to a team in Stl that some colleges could compete with.

This team lacked confidence, swagger, comfort and a killer instinct. Every player in the league should have that. We have all the talent, but none of that stuff.

Only injury that hurt us???

ROFL. WOW!
Witten, Romo and Barber were technically playing but they were moving around like 80 year olds and they were hardly playing good enough to play with anyone.

Choice got yardage but how many TDs did he score, how many short yardage first downs he pick up? Was he anything like Barber in those roles?

When he did show great vision to get to the edges did he ever flash that Felix big play ability?

We have to be honest with ourselves.
We had short-comings on this team aside from talent but the talent we had playing and at the health it was at was far from great and far from being able to compete with anybody.

BTW, that safety depth bit us badly on those two Ravens plays and against the Eagles. We tricked up the defense to get so much pressure QBs seldom beat us deep but we were never squared up that safety spot at all. It was a huge liability with Watkins versus the runs, with Keith Davis versus the pass and Tra Battle was a street free agent who excelled in neither area. But health everywhere else made it easier to cover some of those situations. On offense Romo was too hurt to carry us, Witten was too hurt to get his usual big plays, the OL was missing its main play caller and best on the move player plus for a few weeks Flo was injured and was just a turnstile.

I do think a more veteran play caller would have better adjusted and I'd have liked to see us acquire a running back once Barber was injured but that is all just second guessing at this stage.

I will say this: I do not expect a single backup player who filled in for injury purposes(except Orlando Scandrick) to start for us next year. Choice is immediately 3rd string and back on special teams or being inactive some games. Cory Proctor may not even be in Dallas much less a starter, Even if Holland ios back I suspect Dallas keeps Kosier because he was so integral to the play calls and blitz pick ups. He was the smaller technique guy on a line of behemoths.

We don't have anyone like Cassel in NE where are going to franchise some backup who stepped up. Our backups were just scrubs and it showed aside from the draft picks and Kevin Burnett who is a very solid nickel backer that can't seem to stay healthy probably because he is so friggin small for the position.
 

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lane;2571866 said:
what the hell?

i was saying we barely have 11 good players on this team.

easy there now.

perhaps you need a brandy.

i was agreeing wioth you, lol but i'll take a brandy.
 

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jterrell;2571869 said:
Only injury that hurt us???

ROFL. WOW!
Witten, Romo and Barber were technically playing but they were moving around like 80 year olds and they were hardly playing good enough to play with anyone.

Choice got yardage but how many TDs did he score, how many short yardage first downs he pick up? Was he anything like Barber in those roles?

When he did show great vision to get to the edges did he ever flash that Felix big play ability?

I will say this: I do not expect a single backup player who filled in for injury purposes(except Orlando Scandrick) to start for us next year. Choice is immediately 3rd string and back on special teams or being inactive some games. Cory Proctor may not even be in Dallas much less a starter, Even if Holland ios back I suspect Dallas keeps Kosier because he was so integral to the play calls and blitz pick ups. He was the smaller technique guy on a line of behemoths.
Tony never had an injury that would slow him down to the point of looking "like an 80 year old." He had a hurt finger, which might have effected some throws, might not have, but his legs were fine and he moved as well as he ever has against Philly.

How many carries did Choice get on 3rd and short? I remember a sweep to TO, an option (yes I know he fumbled), a hand off to Cricket, and a QB sneak. Can't remember him getting stuffed. He proved to be a capable back late in games when he had like 90 total yards against the Gints in the 4th quarter.
He also scored like half our TDs over those games. He scored against the Gints and Ravens and had like 175 yards against Pitt. As valuable as Barber is, those are GREAT numbers from a back.

I'm not saying that we didn't miss the guys that were out. But those injuries didn't kill us. With the exception of the Giants game without Romo we still had enough talent to beat all of the teams we played.
 

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Future;2571878 said:
Tony never had an injury that would slow him down to the point of looking "like an 80 year old." He had a hurt finger, which might have effected some throws, might not have, but his legs were fine and he moved as well as he ever has against Philly.

How many carries did Choice get on 3rd and short? I remember a sweep to TO, an option (yes I know he fumbled), a hand off to Cricket, and a QB sneak. Can't remember him getting stuffed. He proved to be a capable back late in games when he had like 90 total yards against the Gints in the 4th quarter.
He also scored like half our TDs over those games. He scored against the Gints and Ravens and had like 175 yards against Pitt. As valuable as Barber is, those are GREAT numbers from a back.

I'm not saying that we didn't miss the guys that were out. But those injuries didn't kill us. With the exception of the Giants game without Romo we still had enough talent to beat all of the teams we played.

Romo hurt his back and ribs and it bothered him the last few games. He moved very poorly against everyone down the stretch. The guy literally passed out in the shower after the Eagles game.

His finger injury was earlier but the guy wasn't ever really healthy after Arizona.

And all those tricked up short yardage plays is because Choice is a smaller back not a big road grader you pound away with on 3rd and 1. Its the same reaosn Philly almost never runs Westbrook inside on 3rd and short.
 

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jterrell;2571884 said:
Romo hurt his back and ribs and it bothered him the last few games. He moved very poorly against everyone down the stretch. The guy literally passed out in the shower after the Eagles game.

His finger injury was earlier but the guy wasn't ever really healthy after Arizona.
Forgot about that, but it looked like he was moving fine against Philly.
 

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I'm with Lane. Who said we had better talent than those teams?

Some people might believe this for one reason or another. Others just say it so they can complain more often.
 

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Hostile;2571554 said:
When the Patriots beat the "Great Show on Turf" Rams in the Super Bowl there is one thing about that game that I remember more than anything else.

The players on Defense declined to be individually introduced to the crowd. Instead they were introduced as the AFC Champion New England Patriots.

I was impressed and when they won the game, I was not shocked. The Rams were by far the more talented players, the Patriots the more together team.

A camcorder and some bad officiating didn't hurt much either.
 

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Future;2571878 said:
Tony never had an injury that would slow him down to the point of looking "like an 80 year old." He had a hurt finger, which might have effected some throws, might not have, but his legs were fine and he moved as well as he ever has against Philly.

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When Romo hurt his back vs the Giants I knew it would take a while for that to heal. Trust me, I've hurt my back and it's takes a long time to heal. It will make you feel old because you can't move like you used to.
 

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visionary;2571529 said:
what makes me sick is that we have more talent than all of these teams and that we should be playing in the NFC championship.

That is where I disagree. I do NOT necessarily think we have more talent than those teams. I think that for some reason, our fans totally overvalue the talent we have on this team, especially on the OL...
 

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Sarge;2571974 said:
That is where I disagree. I do NOT necessarily think we have more talent than those teams. I think that for some reason, our fans totally overvalue the talent we have on this team, especially on the OL...

I can tell you why. Because the mediots keep telling us about how we have some All-Star roster all the while ignoring half the one-time Pro Bowlers are injured.

A few media members will pick up on that and start detailing it as the off-season goes just as the media needs to attract attention for covering the Boys not for tearing them down in the off-season.
 

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Future;2571885 said:
Forgot about that, but it looked like he was moving fine against Philly.
Shots can mask pain. Not saying he did it, but wouldn't be surprised if he did. Lot's of guys do. It would explain him collapsing too.
 

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Hostile;2571512 said:
How we lost adds to the sick. I can't deny that.

Agreed. How we lost all these games is amazing. Especially, the Steeler game man. Best defense we played all year.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2571444 said:
Yep.

We lost to 3 of the 4 remaining teams in December which proves we were nothing but a medicore football team when it mattered most.

Besides, Pittsburgh, I bet we were the favorite in each of those games.
:bow:

It also proves they deserved to be in the playoffs and we had no clue as to how to get there.
 
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