We Must Run the Ball, but wait!

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Week after week we as fans say WE MUST RUN THE BALL! But what if the our starting running back, can only get 2 yards per carry, are we supposed to force it? I know we can't pass all game long, there has to be balance. If something isn't working that well, it's up to our coordinator/head coach to say "let's change things up!" Why keep doing the same things, expecting different results. Sometimes the opposing D-line is stout. It seems that when this happens, we continue to run where the meat of the defense is. It's like we're scared to run outside, or come at that defense in a different manner to make them think at least.

It just bothers me hearing "we must run the ball", what if what if there's no success. I don't think we often look at things the other way, we just say "let's run let's run!" Please give your thoughts
Coogs, it’s a good point. Just saying “run the ball!” is great unless you’re only getting 1 or 2 yards per carry. If it’s 3rd and 7 should we just run the ball? If we can’t run the ball…then what?

Instead of screaming, “Just run the ball”, maybe we should be screaming, “Just score”…who cares how?
 

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We're overtargeting te's in a 12/11 personnel formation on passing downs when we just have jags at te

10+ targets per week!!! Urgh!!!
 

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Rock, paper, scissors. The defense can always take away something if they want to bad enough. The Cowboys can't run simply because they want to. I'm tired of seeing this team bang its head against the wall.

Sometimes you have to pass to open up the run. With no real passing threat, why wouldn't an opposing defense stack the box?
 

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The good news is we have a power/blocking back AND a fast one who can be another receiving threat
We have 2 rbs that have 10+ yard per catch stats. Neither named Zeke

Naming Zeke as our # 2nd RB is questionable imo.

Davis has had too many long plays for bigger gains that cannot be OVERLOOKED! iMO
 

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3 or 4 of the Cowboys last 6 20+ yard runs have been on sweeps by Zeke.. but you didn't hear that from me. Success on sweeps is not about speed. It's about blocking. When you run a sweep there are already at least three defenders out there waiting for you. The OLB, the corner and the safety. The tight end has to seal the OLB, and the receivers have to get the corner and the safety. Whichever one they miss will have a clear path to the ball carrier. In our case most of the time they miss at least two of them which forces our guys back inside where the other 8 defenders are fast pursuing. When they block .. the play works. When they don't.. well it's second and long..
..well Ron, since I carried the rock back in the day, few times. . You are correct. Sweep success depends on blocking.
If you're able to get into 2nd tier, than it's on you, for more yardage.

Lately because of OL injuries, sweeps haven't gone well. Biads is back, so hoping that will change
 

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I want 1st downs, run or pass. They cant go 3 and out 11 times in the game. They need to put in more misdirection, rpo type plays including bootlegs, designed rollouts, couple dak runs.
 

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KM needs to stop running sweeps to Zeke and give those plays to Pollard or even Davis, guys who do damage in space. Also throw these guys the ball too in space. Run the ball with intelligence.
Perfect comment!!!
 

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Week after week we as fans say WE MUST RUN THE BALL! But what if the our starting running back, can only get 2 yards per carry, are we supposed to force it? I know we can't pass all game long, there has to be balance. If something isn't working that well, it's up to our coordinator/head coach to say "let's change things up!" Why keep doing the same things, expecting different results. Sometimes the opposing D-line is stout. It seems that when this happens, we continue to run where the meat of the defense is. It's like we're scared to run outside, or come at that defense in a different manner to make them think at least.

It just bothers me hearing "we must run the ball", what if what if there's no success. I don't think we often look at things the other way, we just say "let's run let's run!" Please give your thoughts
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Emmit Smith often got 2-3 yds/carry in the first half.

If you stop running the ball, it's much easier for the opposing D to get to the QB.
Don't tell me tell Kellen lol, no but we abandon it like geez, make the defense actually be scared when you play fake it. How can you effectively play fake and nobody fears the run. I'm with you
 

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You get creative. Find a way to get some yards. Because it's real simple.

When the Cowboys run more than they pass they win. When they pass more than they run they lose.

Between Big Mike, Moore and Dak there is enough NFL experience to come up with something.

Sure giving it to Zeke against 8 or 9 man fronts isn't going to work. That is Football 101 stuff. This is the playoffs. These guys get paid MILLIONS of dollars every year. FIGURE IT OUT. Figure it out or get someone in here next year who can. Because Dak isn't going anywhere.

And I don't want to see or hear another press conference with Dak or Big Mike standing there making excuses. Again. FIGURE IT OUT!
Amen
 

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People like to cite that stat that says the Cowboys, like every NFL team, win more when they run more but the problem is that it is sort of a tail wagging dog way of looking at that statistic. You run more when you are ahead because you want to kill the clock but when you abandon the run it is usually because you are down a lot so you are more likely to be losing. Saying the Cowboys are more likely to win when they run more so they should run more is like saying the Cowboys should try to be ahead at the start of the 4th because they will be more likely to win if they are up in the 4th.
Very good point, on a side note we end up passing the ball instead of running the clock out at times, blows my mind
 

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Gotta take the pressure off Dak and run the ball. Whenever we get pass happy Dak throw ints. KM should place more emphasis on the run game and extensions for it. Placing the ball in their rbs hands more.
We're paying him 40 do we want to not see him throw it much
 

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Wait broke the wagon coogie

We can't wait we got to run the ball but Dak absolutely has to be part of the running game.

He cannot stand back there hold the ball being greedy waiting for the big play it will end in disaster.

If there's clean real estate in front of him he needs to take off and get some yards get down safely and move the chains.

Dak needs to understand his job is not to be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady his job is to move the chains.
Force them to spy him commit personnel it will open things up for the passing game.
Dak forcing passes is going to end up in turnovers and holding penalties which cannot be tolerated especially in the playoffs.
Totally agree my friend
 

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Week after week we as fans say WE MUST RUN THE BALL! But what if the our starting running back, can only get 2 yards per carry, are we supposed to force it? I know we can't pass all game long, there has to be balance. If something isn't working that well, it's up to our coordinator/head coach to say "let's change things up!" Why keep doing the same things, expecting different results. Sometimes the opposing D-line is stout. It seems that when this happens, we continue to run where the meat of the defense is. It's like we're scared to run outside, or come at that defense in a different manner to make them think at least.

It just bothers me hearing "we must run the ball", what if what if there's no success. I don't think we often look at things the other way, we just say "let's run let's run!" Please give your thoughts
We need to be aggressive or we lose. Pounding zeke is a loss.
 

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Well there is one running back who can get to the edge and break off good runs and another one who can’t. Tell me which running back Moore is going to give more carries to?
 

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3 or 4 of the Cowboys last 6 20+ yard runs have been on sweeps by Zeke.. but you didn't hear that from me. Success on sweeps is not about speed. It's about blocking. When you run a sweep there are already at least three defenders out there waiting for you. The OLB, the corner and the safety. The tight end has to seal the OLB, and the receivers have to get the corner and the safety. Whichever one they miss will have a clear path to the ball carrier. In our case most of the time they miss at least two of them which forces our guys back inside where the other 8 defenders are fast pursuing. When they block .. the play works. When they don't.. well it's second and long..
Those sweeps there was no one around. Zeke outran no one. Your mom could have gotten 20. Pollard takes them to the house.
 
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