We need a running back

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Are there?

Again, name for me a conference champ that invested a high first round pick or a massive contract in a TB that carried them to a conference champ game in the last decade?
i don’t think that’s the right question.

When was a team 1 player (QB not withstanding) away that their 1st round draft choice actually took them to the conference championship ? I can’t really recall that for any team ? DE?WR?OL?

Draft is part of building process. Every piece is part of the puzzle. To disqualify drafting a RB in the 1st round to built your team seems unreasonable.

Would you not say Emmitt Smith would be a player that took this team to SB?
 

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Are there?

Again, name for me a conference champ that invested a high first round pick or a massive contract in a TB that carried them to a conference champ game in the last decade?

There's a reason. Because many teams have figured out if you invest your OL, you can build a quality run game without a significant investment in the TB position. Take an OL at 26 (I hope there is one there) and then find that TB in the middle rounds. Makes way more sense than spending 26 on a TB, or worse, trading up to get a TB.
You can rant all you want. I would be very happy having Robinson or Gibbs on this team. I 'd also be happy with the Pitt running back or Miller from TCU at pick 90. Robinson is about as good as it gets on and off the field. I like a lot of different players. Most of them won't be Cowboys, but some of them will. We can only hope that they hit on the picks. I like their chances. Robinson would be a great pick at 26. A lot of people think he will go much higher.
 

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I'm a little surprised we haven't signed a vet after releasing Zeke. It looks like a draft pick is all but assured at this point... the question is who.
 

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Better than Barkley? Yeah, not really.
As a prospect out of college Saquon’s vision as a runner was somewhat questionable. Although Saquon might be the one guy who would have an equal or close to equal rating before the draft
 

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i don’t think that’s the right question.

When was a team 1 player (QB not withstanding) away that their 1st round draft choice actually took them to the conference championship ? I can’t really recall that for any team ? DE?WR?OL?

Draft is part of building process. Every piece is part of the puzzle. To disqualify drafting a RB in the 1st round to built your team seems unreasonable.

Would you not say Emmitt Smith would be a player that took this team to SB?
Emmitt Smith played three decades ago. The game was different then.
 

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As a prospect out of college Saquon’s vision as a runner was somewhat questionable. Although Saquon might be the one guy who would have an equal or close to equal rating before the draft
Not sure what “grades” you are using but if you go by the NFL draft grades, Robinson was a 6.84 and closer to Gurley (6.80) and Etienne (6.74) and not close to Barkley (7.45) or even Elliott (7.30).

People are overrating Robinson line he’s some generational talent. He’s not.
 

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I have not really watched much of any of the draft prospects, but it is crazy to think while Gibbs looks really good that him at 26 leaves me a little lukewarm. I think the Texas A&M Player may be a similar player. Or at least 90% of him. The A&M player has speed to burn to. It is sort of exciting if we had two running backs who will make a big play if there is a hole.

Maybe Mayer in the first and Archane in the second. Sort of a nice combo. Mayer is a Witten caliber level prospect. He can be a security blanket and block ok while also making a big play occasionally. Arcane gives you another big play player. Second round may be too early for a RB and they may prioritize another position higher, but there are a few guys in the second I like and a few more later.
 

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Emmitt Smith played three decades ago. The game was different then.
Pretty sure it's still 11 on 11 football. Every few years games reinvent itself and find "new" formula. Regurgitate similar schemes. Emmitt Smith will still dominate in the current league. Same as Bob Hayes, Randy White.

Don't need to overthink it. Collect talent when you can get it. Just when everyone is going one way it's a good time to pick up talent people "neglect".
 

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Pretty sure it's still 11 on 11 football. Every few years games reinvent itself and find "new" formula. Regurgitate similar schemes. Emmitt Smith will still dominate in the current league. Same as Bob Hayes, Randy White.

Don't need to overthink it. Collect talent when you can get it. Just when everyone is going one way it's a good time to pick up talent people "neglect".
The game is totally different now. The rules have changed to favor passing. RBs lasted longer back then but now the wear and tear of bigger, faster, stronger defenders takes it toll more on the position now, especially those who are given a lot of carries. The issue isn't if Smith could be successful now. The issue is how long he'd last in today's NFL. Probably not nearly as long as he did when he played.

Using Emmitt Smith to justify using a first round pick on a TB is just preposterous.

It's not overthinking it. It's understanding that the dynamics of the league are different today than 30 years ago. Because in a capped league, you can't just "collect" talent like you did in the 80s and early 90s before the cap was implemented. Cap dollars are finite. You have to build an entire team within a structured system. The better teams understand the cap better and understand the value in certain positions. It's why you see more teams that just piece together a running game with strong OLs and mid-tier backs typically more successful than the teams that plow high picks and huge dollars into the TB position.
 

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The game is totally different now. The rules have changed to favor passing. RBs lasted longer back then but now the wear and tear of bigger, faster, stronger defenders takes it toll more on the position now, especially those who are given a lot of carries. The issue isn't if Smith could be successful now. The issue is how long he'd last in today's NFL. Probably not nearly as long as he did when he played.

Using Emmitt Smith to justify using a first round pick on a TB is just preposterous.

It's not overthinking it. It's understanding that the dynamics of the league are different today than 30 years ago. Because in a capped league, you can't just "collect" talent like you did in the 80s and early 90s before the cap was implemented. Cap dollars are finite. You have to build an entire team within a structured system. The better teams understand the cap better and understand the value in certain positions. It's why you see more teams that just piece together a running game with strong OLs and mid-tier backs typically more successful than the teams that plow high picks and huge dollars into the TB position.
I don't disagree with working under cap etc. That does not change the game. Remember when Belichek "found" 2TE system and all of a sudden, the entire league went looking for TEs? Copy cat leauge.
Didn't Big Mike just promise more running and less pass happy? If we are looking for a dominate running game it takes both RB and OL to complement each other. Having a talented RB and controlling him for 5 years easily justifies that for me (IMO). Are you saying you don't think Zeke during his first 3 years was dominate? Without him Dak wouldn't look anywhere close to as good as he did. The mistake was his second contract.

Once again. Collect talent. Usually that pays off. If there's a dominate OL/OL I am all for it. But if you grade one far above the other, take the more talented player.
 

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Okay.

But only under the condition they ride him until the wheels fall off and do not give him a contract at the end.
The quantifier I would put on that is unless he keeps getting better in the first 5 years .... Like Emmitt did.
 

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If Robinson is gone, and I'm pretty sure he will be, look at Israel Abanikanda in the 3rd. That dude is going to be a beast.
I am not sure he will be there in the 3rd after he lights up his pro day. likely gone in the 2nd or early 3rd. kids a freak and has the numbers to back it up.
 
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