We need to talk Q Williams

What exactly is this guy supposed to be elite at? If we’re being honest he’s had one good game as a Cowboy. His debut against the Raiders was great. Since he’s been very average. I saw him get pancaked today…yes his punch out was good but it was 8 yards downfield after he got mauled. Thinking I’d rather have that 1st and 2nd round pick back.
Yea he has not been worth the picks so far. That d-line was destroyed by an average offensive line. Completely embarrassed and blow off the line every single one of them.
 
EZE wasn't a 1st rounder.
My bad. You’re right. We haven’t done well with our “premium” picks (first two rounds). Going back to when Dak was drafted in 2016:

YearRoundPickPlayerPosition
20161#4Ezekiel ElliottRB
2#34Jaylon SmithLB
20171#28Taco CharltonDE
2#60Chidobe AwuzieCB
20181#19Leighton Vander EschLB
2#50Connor WilliamsG
20191No pick (Amari Cooper trade)
2#58Trysten HillDT
20201#17CeeDee LambWR
2#51Trevon DiggsCB
20211#12Micah ParsonsLB/EDGE
2#44Kelvin JosephCB
20221#24Tyler SmithOL
2#56Sam WilliamsEDGE
20231#26Mazi SmithDT
2#58Luke SchoonmakerTE
20241#29Tyler GuytonOT
2#56Marshawn KneelandDE
20251#12Tyler BookerG
2#44Donovan EzeiruakuEDGE
20261#11Caleb DownsS
1#23Malachi LawrenceEDGE
2No pick

That’s 10 years. What have we really gotten?

In terms of elite production, Zeke was the best in his prime but it only lasted 3 years. Lamb was probably the best considering prime and longevity. Tyler Smith has been a good guard. Obviously Micah was great, but we traded him.

A few guys gave us 1-2 good seasons, like LVE and Diggs. A few guys were total busts. A few guys were forgettable like Awuzie.

What does this team really have? The defense was historically bad last year and wasn’t any better last night. The offense was good last year, and was mainly driven by Dak (4th round pick) and an elite WR combo (1st rounder in Lamb and someone we traded for in Pickens). So really only two players (Lamb and Tyler Smith) were drafted with premium picks and would start on any team in the league.
 
It’s pretty bad when you gotta pick on Q :laugh:
Or call him out like that. SMH....if I have to place Q on the 2026 Fall Guy list. Current leading nominees from this board today: Dak, Overshown, Q (???), Aubrey, Pickens, Ezeirauku (my leading pick for constantly losing contain) and Downs (???)
 
I know I’m going to be labeled a hater but outside of the raiders game this guy to me has been invisible, I mean yeah the punch out last night after the guy was 12 yards down the field but maybe I’m missing something.
 
The punch out was a big play. Can’t change that or pretend a play like that isn’t a big deal. But the reality is, for that kind of $, he has not been the difference making force eating up a huge chunk of cap. For that $ and those high picks, he has to be.
 
Well in the "3-4" we are running kinda he takes up blockers... the problem is after he did the giants literally just 1v1 everyone else and scat ran over our LB's... Q is fine Overshown vs a downhill runner looked BRUTAL
 
His main role is to holding the line and collapse the pocket.
The $ and picks invested in him dictate he has to be more. He needs a Simmons or Chris Jones type of impact, or it’s just the organization trying to justify another bad transaction.
 
The $ and picks invested in him dictate he has to be more. He needs a Simmons or Chris Jones type of impact, or it’s just the organization trying to justify another bad transaction.
He has never been any of that in his entire career. Not even close.
 
One-gap run defense is a weakest link game. If Q blows up his gap, but Overshown overruns his and Kenny Clark gets washed out, then the back is still going to get a bunch of yardage. Especially on zone plays designed to let backs cut away from closed gaps.

Q's not going to be a one man miracle worker.
 
Q is in the game to collapse the pocket and keep our linebackers clean. All that becomes a moot point of our edges don't keep contain.

Rickard was sealing our edges and turning them inside all night. This defense had no answer for the Giant's fullback.
 

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