We Want Quinn!!!!

[LowTech]

Romo will sign, don't worry.

 

[Wrangler87]

Kind of like Quinn's college career, looked great against the powder puffs on the Irish schedule but terrible against real teams.

Check again, Quinn never really played terrible. His team did, especially the Irish defense. Quinn, overall, played pretty well overall.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Here is some reality for all the "Quinn haters", "premature bust declarer's"

If we did not have Romo at QB and needed a QB - we would have taken Quinn. It would have been the smart move and we would have been lucky to have him drop to us.

 

[JackMagist]

I doubt Quinn will be enough to knock us out of the top 10 pick that we all expect but he could be enough to drop us out of the top 5 if they don't play him until later in the year. Fortunately even very good college QB's need to develop and they still have to have a supporting cast which Cleveland (for the most part) doesn't.

 

[DallasEast]

I doubt Quinn will be enough to knock us out of the top 10 pick that we all expect but he could be enough to drop us out of the top 5 if they don't play him until later in the year. Fortunately even very good college QB's need to develop and they still have to have a supporting cast which Cleveland (for the most part) doesn't.

IMO, Quinn will have to duplicate a Brian Sipe 'cardiac kids' type season to prevent us from landing a top five selection next April.

 

[CATCH17]

I love Quinn as a prospect but it was THE LIONS 3rd and 4th stringers.

If Quinn starts the season hes going to get manhandled in that division.

I think they are better off with Frye or Anderson this year.

Cleveland is going to hand over a top 5 pick book it.

 

[jackrussell]

I love Quinn as a prospect but it was THE LIONS 3rd and 4th stringers.

He was leading the Browns 3rd and 4th stringers.

Wow, that bold thing really does empower what I have to say!

Last night reminds me of something I saw in Troy Aikman's first game as a pro, 2 things really.

Never mind Dallas was coming off a 3-13 season, this opening game was truly New Orlean's Super Bowl, and the dome was rockin'. Knowing full well this was the way it was going to be, Jimmy had the offense operating on the silent count. Rookie Troy pulled it off wonderfully, I don't believe there was one false start called on the Cowboys that day.

Then there was 'the pass'. A standard, yet difficult 15 yard down and out, Aikman heaved the perfect pass...just enough loft to clear 2 defender's fingertips, enough zip and perfect timing for the receiver to comfortably make the 2 feet down on the sideline reception.

A truly 'professional' pass, in a loss in what became a dismal 1-15 season. But those 2 things told me there was a professional quarterback in the making.

Vince Young did about the same 3 years back when Texas played Ohio State in Columbus. All the talk about his bad mechanics, how he was a runner and not a passer. Then he threw a pass on this deep seam route, splitting the defenders perfectly, laying the ball in stride to where only the receiver could make the reception and roll to the end zone. That pass alone told me he could make any pass...a 'professional' pass.

Now watching Quinn last night, and not reading a box score, or worrying about who he did it against or at what point in the game, things developed how you would like to see them.

Despite a crushing knockdown on his release, Quinn stood in and delivered the ball on the mark. Despite pressure up the middle, (and pressure is pressure no matter if it's a 1st stringer or a 4th stringer) he instinctively rolled to the right and delivered an on the mark pass that only his 4th string wide receiver could catch for a TD.

He didn't appear to have the deer in the headlight look, he didn't appear to have happy feet, he took what they gave him, he didn't force anything.

I have no doubt Cleveland will be delivering us a top 10 pick, be it Frye, Anderson, or Quinn. (I personally belive Anderson will be the odd man out).

But really people, here's where you have to not look outside the box, but look within it, and see the player for what he looked like regardless, and that look was undoubtably 'professional'.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

He was leading the Browns 3rd and 4th stringers.

Wow, that bold thing really does empower what I have to say!

Last night reminds me of something I saw in Troy Aikman's first game as a pro, 2 things really.

Never mind Dallas was coming off a 3-13 season, this opening game was truly New Orlean's Super Bowl, and the dome was rockin'. Knowing full well this was the way it was going to be, Jimmy had the offense operating on the silent count. Rookie Troy pulled it off wonderfully, I don't believe there was one false start called on the Cowboys that day.

Then there was 'the pass'. A standard, yet difficult 15 yard down and out, Aikman heaved the perfect pass...just enough loft to clear 2 defender's fingertips, enough zip and perfect timing for the receiver to comfortably make the 2 feet down on the sideline reception.

A truly 'professional' pass, in a loss in what became a dismal 1-15 season. But those 2 things told me there was a professional quarterback in the making.

Vince Young did about the same 3 years back when Texas played Ohio State in Columbus. All the talk about his bad mechanics, how he was a runner and not a passer. Then he threw a pass on this deep seam route, splitting the defenders perfectly, laying the ball in stride to where only the receiver could make the reception and roll to the end zone. That pass alone told me he could make any pass...a 'professional' pass.

Now watching Quinn last night, and not reading a box score, or worrying about who he did it against or at what point in the game, things developed how you would like to see them.

Despite a crushing knockdown on his release, Quinn stood in and delivered the ball on the mark. Despite pressure up the middle, (and pressure is pressure no matter if it's a 1st stringer or a 4th stringer) he instinctively rolled to the right and delivered an on the mark pass that only his 4th string wide receiver could catch for a TD.

He didn't appear to have the deer in the headlight look, he didn't appear to have happy feet, he took what they gave him, he didn't force anything.

I have no doubt Cleveland will be delivering us a top 10 pick, be it Frye, Anderson, or Quinn. (I personally belive Anderson will be the odd man out).

But really people, here's where you have to not look outside the box, but look within it, and see the player for what he looked like regardless, and that look was undoubtably 'professional'.

Great Post!

He is used to playing on that stage anyway with everyone looking on.

 

[CATCH17]

Matt Moore doesnt have the deer in the headlights look against 3rd and 4th stringers either.

All im saying is I do think Quinn is going to be one heck of a QB and I was one of the ones saying i'd choose him over Russell. I just dont think hes good enough to make an impact on that team to have them not picking in the top 5 to top 3 with that schedule.

Personally I think Cleveland and Oakland are fighting to see who is the worst team in football.

 

[skicat1898]

Quinn is a good QB on a bad team.. If the team gets better, they will be something the rest of the league will have to deal with in a couple of years...

Right now, the team as a whole is not good enough to keep us from getting a possible top 5 pick.

 

[jackrussell]

Matt Moore doesnt have the deer in the headlights look against 3rd and 4th stringers either.

All im saying is I do think Quinn is going to be one heck of a QB and I was one of the ones saying i'd choose him over Russell. I just dont think hes good enough to make an impact on that team to have them not picking in the top 5 to top 3 with that schedule.

Personally I think Cleveland and Oakland are fighting to see who is the worst team in football.

Man, you've got to get past the 3rd 4th stringer stuff. You acknowledge that, yet you don't acknowledge he was playing with the 3rd 4th string Clev offense.

There's another thread going of how well Stanback did last night...are you in there reminding everyone how it was against scrubs...or is it because he's our guy?

The thread wasn't saying he was going to lead Clev out of the bottom 10, in fact, it was all about how our chances were looking good for indeed getting a top 10....so apparently you have 2 things not going for you...one is how teams evaluate talent, the second is thread comprehension.

 

[CATCH17]

Man, you've got to get past the 3rd 4th stringer stuff. You acknowledge that, yet you don't acknowledge he was playing with the 3rd 4th string Clev offense.

There's another thread going of how well Stanback did last night...are you in there reminding everyone how it was against scrubs...or is it because he's our guy?

The thread wasn't saying he was going to lead Clev out of the bottom 10, in fact, it was all about how our chances were looking good for indeed getting a top 10....so apparently you have 2 things not going for you...one is how teams evaluate talent, the second is thread comprehension.

Personally anything dealing with preseason football I put 0 stock into.

Whether it be a 1st stringer, or 12th stringer.

I saw Quincy Carter light teams up his rookie year in the pre-season.

To an AVG fan who hasn't picked up on the concept of pre-season football yet it would've looked like QC was ready to go.

All these guys can throw a football under easy conditions. All these guys can beat defenses that dont prepare and stay as vanilla as you can get.

Its just one big organized practice and anything I see from a preseason game whether it be good or bad I tell myself this is not what your going to see in the regular season and somehow it never is.

 

[iceberg]

Personally anything dealing with preseason football I put 0 stock into.

Whether it be a 1st stringer, or 12th stringer.

I saw Quincy Carter light teams up his rookie year in the pre-season.

To an AVG fan who hasn't picked up on the concept of pre-season football yet it would've looked like QC was ready to go.

All these guys can throw a football under easy conditions. All these guys can beat defenses that dont prepare and stay as vanilla as you can get.

Its just one big organized practice and anything I see from a preseason game whether it be good or bad I tell myself this is not what your going to see in the regular season and somehow it never is.

and if quinn would have had a bad outing, would you have said "it means nothing" or would you say quinn sucks and we're getting a #1 pick?

regardless of what was going on, quinn did a good job. period. i'm not sure what oeiji board you use to rate players talents but the only way you can see how well a playet does is to watch them play.

you got a better method of rating a players ability, let's hear it.

 

[theogt]

God I hope they start him. Please, please, please start him Week 1.

 

[CATCH17]

and if quinn would have had a bad outing, would you have said "it means nothing" or would you say quinn sucks and we're getting a #1 pick?

regardless of what was going on, quinn did a good job. period. i'm not sure what oeiji board you use to rate players talents but the only way you can see how well a playet does is to watch them play.

you got a better method of rating a players ability, let's hear it.

If Quinn would've gone 1 for 9 with an INT yes I still think hes going to do good and yes I still would think Cleveland is going to suck.

Just like I thought when Danny Wuerfell, Patrick Ramsey, and the entire Washington Commanders team when SPurrier got there would still suck.

Just like when I thought last year when the Raiders were undefeated they would still suck.

Quinn did a good job... ok? Browns will still suck.

When the games start counting is when i'll judge our players.

Nick Folk can kick the ball a long ways... Do it when it counts. When nerves settle in. When meaningful games are on the line.

We don't even game plan for these things.

I wish there was less pre-season games and I think the players and coaches do too.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

God I hope they start him. Please, please, please start him Week 1.

I hope so too..

My late round fantasy sleeper is is hoping for some PT.

 

[theogt]

I hope so too..

My late round fantasy sleeper is is hoping for some PT.

I'm thinking about my fantasy pick next year: McFadden with a blue star!

If you plan on starting Quinn, I'd like to invite you to one of my leagues.

 

[BigWillie]

Check again, Quinn never really played terrible. His team did, especially the Irish defense. Quinn, overall, played pretty well overall.

2006

Michigan: 24-48, 234 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT
USC: 22-45, 274 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
LSU: 15-35, 148 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT

2005

Michigan: 19-30, 140 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT
USC: 19-35, 264, 1 TD, 1 INT
Ohio State: 29-45, 286, 0 TD, 0 INT

Overall, about a 54% completion percentage and 224YPG passing.

Based on those stats, I think it is safe to assume that he didn't play very.

 

[jackrussell]

Just like I thought when Danny Wuerfell, Patrick Ramsey, and the entire Washington Commanders team when SPurrier got there would still suck.

Just like when I thought last year when the Raiders were undefeated they would still suck. Skipping ahead, you knew this how? Judging the Raiders BEFORE the season started? Imagine that!

Quinn did a good job... ok? Browns will still suck. That's been established...and no real revelation. Skipping ahead again...how would you know Quinn did a good job? I mean, you don't judge players til week 1?

When the games start counting is when i'll judge our players. So you wait til the games count to judge players? That couldn't be anymore ridiculous. How would you make cuts BEFORE the season started? For that matter, how would you make draft picks, sign free agents.

I wish there was less pre-season games and I think the players and coaches do too. Oh yes, I'm sure the coaches know after their first inter squad scrimmage (which of course, means nothing because it's before week 1) as to exactly what players they want to fill their 53 man roster with. Gee, why do they bother to practice? Why do they bother to scout? Heck, just show up week 1 and see what happens! [/quote]

As stated in another post...how player evaluation is done isn't your strongest suit.

 

[jackrussell]

and if quinn would have had a bad outing, would you have said "it means nothing" or would you say quinn sucks and we're getting a #1 pick?

regardless of what was going on, quinn did a good job. period. i'm not sure what oeiji board you use to rate players talents but the only way you can see how well a playet does is to watch them play.

you got a better method of rating a players ability, let's hear it.

I haven't seen you play...but what the heck...show up week 1 and we'll go from there.