We Want Quinn!!!!

jackrussell;1595550 said:
I haven't seen you play...but what the heck...show up week 1 and we'll go from there.
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if you need a big guy with a bad back and 2 heel spurs, i'm your man! i'll dominate all the things i'm allowed to dominate man!!!!

i can run a 4.58 10!
 
Skipping ahead, you knew this how? Judging the Raiders BEFORE the season started? Imagine that!
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What are you trying to say? I dont need preseason to tell me the Raiders were going to be a bad team last year. Even though they won every game.

That's been established...and no real revelation. Skipping ahead again...how would you know Quinn did a good job? I mean, you don't judge players til week 1?
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He did a good job last night but your having visions of Troy Aikman.

Im saying that your not going to find out anything about the guy until the real bullets start flying and if you line the guy up against Pittsburgh in 3 weeks your not going to see the same thing you saw last night.

Once again I think the guy can play but he will not make a big enough impact for them this year to get out of being one of the 3 - 5 worst teams in football.

So you wait til the games count to judge players? That couldn't be anymore ridiculous. How would you make cuts BEFORE the season started? For that matter, how would you make draft picks, sign free agents.
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Basically you can put any teams roster together before the season even starts and yes some guys do jump out a little more than others and thats when you make bottom of the barrel roster moves.

Oh yes, I'm sure the coaches know after their first inter squad scrimmage (which of course, means nothing because it's before week 1) as to exactly what players they want to fill their 53 man roster with. Gee, why do they bother to practice? Why do they bother to scout? Heck, just show up week 1 and see what happens!
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I wasn't making that up. Having 4 pre-season games has a lot to do with money for the owners more than the coaches wanting the 4 games.

And yes I do wait until the games count, teams gameplan for a week, and coaches open up their offensive and defensive playbooks up before I make decisions regarding how good a player actually is.
 
big willie with no idea of what you are talking about. Why don't you look at other QBs for teams that had virtually NO DEFENSE to talk about and were coming from behind against the best teams all the time- and see what THEIR stats looked like. Cutler was at vanderbilt and his stats looked pretty bad- yet he is starting for one of the top teams. BQ had no defense and a fairly porous O line. Against the top teams ND had virtually no chance- though they did come within one illegal play of beating the undefeated and #1 USC in 2005. Mostly what happens when you have one very inferior team playing a much better team is that the inferior team gets their butts kicked.
 
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I want quinn to start...He looks like a guy that beefs himself up for failure. The Steelers, Ravens and Bengals are not the lions 3rd string bums.

Put on the field PLEASE!!!.
 
CATCH17;1595572 said:
What are you trying to say? I dont need preseason to tell me the Raiders were going to be a bad team last year. Even though they won every game.

You're confusing preseason results with preseason evaluation.

He did a good job last night but your having visions of Troy Aikman.

No I'm not...but if it makes you feel better, go ahead and believe that. Here, you're just confusing comparing someone to another as opposed to comparing situational evaluations.

Im saying that your not going to find out anything about the guy until the real bullets start flying and if you line the guy up against Pittsburgh in 3 weeks your not going to see the same thing you saw last night.

Nothing..nothing at all eh?

Once again I think the guy can play but he will not make a big enough impact for them this year to get out of being one of the 3 - 5 worst teams in football.

Once again...that was the whole basis of the thread. It's not like you're going out on a limb here.


Basically you can put any teams roster together before the season even starts and yes some guys do jump out a little more than others and thats when you make bottom of the barrel roster moves.

So Romo is a 'bottom of the barrel' roster move? Sorry, those in the profession know as to how valuable these games are in making more than just bottom feeder moves.


I wasn't making that up. Having 4 pre-season games has a lot to do with money for the owners more than the coaches wanting the 4 games.

Interesting...considering the radio team last night did discuss this very thing by saying no matter the fans don't like the preseason, the coaches feel the opposite. And besides...the rallying mantra of shortening the preseason from the novices is to extend the regular season...which would mean even MORE money.

And yes I do wait until the games count, teams gameplan for a week, and coaches open up their offensive and defensive playbooks up before I make decisions regarding how good a player actually is.

Before YOU make a decision...o brother. Sorry, coaches gather WAY more information in the 6 weeks leading up to a regular season game than you'll ever come close to. How in the world could they ever 'gameplan' if they don't already know their strengths and weaknesses?
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DallasDomination;1595599 said:
I want quinn to start...He looks like a guy that beefs himself up for failure. The Steelers, Ravens and Bengals are not the lions 3rd string bums.

Put on the field PLEASE!!!.
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The Lion's 2nd stringers couldn't even make the Ravens' or Steelers' practice squad. Hell, there are probably some Lions starters that would have a hard time making the Ravens roster.
 
Brady Quinn is the real deal. He is the leader of a Browns team that the rest of the NFL will have to deal with in the near future. I hope we our 1st rd pick in the upcoming draft will be in the top 5 or 10. I am an Irish fan and so I like Quinn. He is in my mind head and shoulders above Russell (who is hurting himself by holding out, I do not believe he will recover, just like the kid that the Bengals drafted a few years ago, who eventually found himself out of the league, not Couch the other kid before him.
 
BHendri5;1595651 said:
Brady Quinn is the real deal. He is the leader of a Browns team that the rest of the NFL will have to deal with in the near future. I hope we our 1st rd pick in the upcoming draft will be in the top 5 or 10. I am an Irish fan and so I like Quinn. He is in my mind head and shoulders above Russell (who is hurting himself by holding out, I do not believe he will recover, just like the kid that the Bengals drafted a few years ago, who eventually found himself out of the league, not Couch the other kid before him.
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Couch played for the browns....

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BHendri5;1595651 said:
Brady Quinn is the real deal. He is the leader of a Browns team that the rest of the NFL will have to deal with in the near future. I hope we our 1st rd pick in the upcoming draft will be in the top 5 or 10. I am an Irish fan and so I like Quinn. He is in my mind head and shoulders above Russell (who is hurting himself by holding out, I do not believe he will recover, just like the kid that the Bengals drafted a few years ago, who eventually found himself out of the league, not Couch the other kid before him.
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I wish you would have led off with this, so I didn't have to read the rest.
 
I dont care what a player does in the pre-season it still doesn't prove much to me.

No matter how good Romo did last year in the preseason it wasn't enough for Parcells to pull the trigger on nameing him the starter. Why? Because its pre-season.

Bledsoe was so bad we had to try something and Romo had shown that playing against teams that really aren't trying to stop him that he deserves at least a chance.

Coaches and players do talk about how the pre-season needs to be shortened. Everyone hates it except for you and the owners cashing in.

Your never going to find out all the things you need to know about a player and especially an entire team until things start rolling for real. Not pre-season football.
 
CATCH17;1595659 said:
I dont care what a player does in the pre-season it still doesn't prove much to me.

No matter how good Romo did last year in the preseason it wasn't enough for Parcells to pull the trigger on nameing him the starter. Why? Because its pre-season.
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I understand what you are saying but I am going to disagree.

Parcells was still married to Bledsoe... I believe that is why he started him. Then Bill started sleeping on the coach during the first 5 games. Finally put paperwork in for the divorce midway through game 5 after Bledsoe slapped him with that INT.

But hey... those are just my thoughts on it...


I dont think preseason needs to be shortened... just dont play your starters alot and let the guys trying to make the team play most of them
 
YoMick;1595663 said:
I understand what you are saying but I am going to disagree.

Parcells was still married to Bledsoe... I believe that is why he started him. Then Bill started sleeping on the coach during the first 5 games. Finally put paperwork in for the divorce midway through game 5 after Bledsoe slapped him with that INT.

But hey... those are just my thoughts on it...


I dont think preseason needs to be shortened... just dont play your starters alot and let the guys trying to make the team play most of them
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Or was it that when Bledsoe finally got to play in the pre-season he was way better than Romo was?

It was a lot easier for Bledsoe when teams weren't trying to attack him in the pre-season and it showed because he played well.
 
CATCH17;1595671 said:
Or was it that when Bledsoe finally got to play in the pre-season he was way better than Romo was?

It was a lot easier for Bledsoe when teams weren't trying to attack him in the pre-season and it showed because he played well.
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The book was out on Bledsoe. You know what you are going to get and what you arent going to get during the season.

Anyway... no biggie... just my thoughts
 
CATCH17;1595671 said:
Or was it that when Bledsoe finally got to play in the pre-season he was way better than Romo was?

It was a lot easier for Bledsoe when teams weren't trying to attack him in the pre-season and it showed because he played well.
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You know, I never thought that Bledsoe was a good fit here. Guy who has no mobility, holds the ball too long and we had a bad O-line.

Funny thing is, I think he would be better here now because our O-line seems much better so far.
 
Jarv;1595705 said:
You know, I never thought that Bledsoe was a good fit here. Guy who has no mobility, holds the ball too long and we had a bad O-line.

Funny thing is, I think he would be better here now because our O-line seems much better so far.
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Ahh... you forget that he was still throwing INT's when he had time... HERE.....
 
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