Weeden was horrible

[mldardy]

As poorly as Weeden played, the OL must be held accountable as well. Having said that, be assured I'll be greatly relieved when Romo returns, however. Getting Leary back should help as well. Parnell didn't strike me as doing too much to alleviate our problems vs. AZ, either. Weeden is obviously a temporary fix that was only entered into due to a difficult cap situation, thanks to our FO's mistaken handling of contracts.

The OL must be held accountable for what exactly? Under the circumstances of facing a heavy blitz they gave enough holes for Murray to run and Murray was effective for the most part. They gave Weeden enough time to throw the ball and he panicked and stared down his receivers. The OL wasn't bad enough for them to be held accountable. Weeden was just awful.

 

[Doomsday101]

The OL must be held accountable for what exactly? Under the circumstances of facing a heavy blitz they gave enough holes for Murray to run and Murray was effective for the most part. They gave Weeden enough time to throw the ball and he panicked and stared down his receivers. The OL wasn't bad enough for them to be held accountable. Weeden was just awful.

I agree. OL overall gave up 1 sack on the day. I had posted 2 but when going back and looking again the OL gave up 1. No doubt about it when the blitz is coming you have to get rid of the ball fairly quick but if you can hit the targets with no safety help you can hit the big plays. It is normally hard to be very consistent with a blitz it's object is to get sacks and disrupt an offense but even it does so at a great risk.

 

[WV Cowboy]

The OL must be held accountable for what exactly? Under the circumstances of facing a heavy blitz they gave enough holes for Murray to run and Murray was effective for the most part. They gave Weeden enough time to throw the ball and he panicked and stared down his receivers. The OL wasn't bad enough for them to be held accountable. Weeden was just awful.

I posted this in another thread, .. "Weeden's QB rating yesterday was lower than Romo's ever was in any game he EVER played in EVER! "

E-V-E-R!!

 

[mldardy]

I agree. OL overall gave up 1 sack on the day. I had posted 2 but when going back and looking again the OL gave up 1. No doubt about it when the blitz is coming you have to get rid of the ball fairly quick but if you can hit the targets with no safety help you can hit the big plays. It is normally hard to be very consistent with a blitz it's object is to get sacks and disrupt an offense but even it does so at a great risk.

The only fault of the OL that jumps out at me is the 4th and 1 play but considering the entire Cards defense knew where they were going on that play and someone, Weeden/coaching staff, should have checked out on that play call. I feel like the coaching staff needs to come up with simpler plays to get this offense going again. It seems like our offense especially on pass plays really have to work extra hard to get open. I liked the screen plays to Murray and Dunbar and the underneaths to Beasley. Would like to see more of that.

 

[ringmaster]

I'm with you- I'm disappointed with the loss, but I'm not angry like I was on Monday night. Weeden stunk it up. Let's get Romo healthy and turn our focus to the Jaguars in London.

I agree and Weeden would be on the unemployment line right now if I was JJ being that he has had a lot of reps within this offense and it's the same offense he ran in Cleveland uner Norv just doesn't make since he couldn't hit the back side of a barn on yesterday.

 

[DallasEast]

Seems Weeden can't play baseball OR football. He's still young enough to figure out what to do with the rest of his life, though.

Weeden should strongly consider playing cricket. He should officially retire from sports if he sucks at that too.

 

[Doomsday101]

The only fault of the OL that jumps out at me is the 4th and 1 play but considering the entire Cards defense knew where they were going on that play and someone, Weeden/coaching staff, should have checked out on that play call. I feel like the coaching staff needs to come up with simpler plays to get this offense going again. It seems like our offense especially on pass plays really have to work extra hard to get open. I liked the screen plays to Murray and Dunbar and the underneaths to Beasley. Would like to see more of that.

True, as I said I really felt taking some shot deep would at least cause CB to be leery of it but we stayed in my view too conservative with the short balls and in the end they continued to hang on WR short.

 

[kojak]

Wow this is good stuff, thanks!

Im sure Weeden will get a dose of film study in the third quarter. He cost us the game. The slot cb starting blitzing because he knew where weeden was going during his drop back. Thats why cole is so wide open. and the interception baffles me because one would think he would of seen him but he starred down witten the whole time. Beasely scores there.

 

[Bullflop]

The OL must be held accountable for what exactly? Under the circumstances of facing a heavy blitz they gave enough holes for Murray to run and Murray was effective for the most part. They gave Weeden enough time to throw the ball and he panicked and stared down his receivers. The OL wasn't bad enough for them to be held accountable. Weeden was just awful.

The OL must be held accountable for playing poorly enough to contribute to Weeden's inability to play better just as they were when Romo had so many problems when we played Washington. Granted, Weeden isn't any QB resembling the level of Romo but if their failure to protect Romo caused him problems, it certainly would be more than likely to do much the same with Weeden. No, AZ didn't blitz as much as Washington did but they also were causing enough disruption to bother many backup QBs. I'm certainly not trying to absolve Weeden of the blame that he surely deserves -- just saying that the OL played poorly enough to share the blame. This is a very young OL that has had replacements injected into it recently -- and it happens to many OLs, not just ours. I think they simply have work to do before thay are able to contend with the more adept teams that are able to rush the passer effectively. AZ is just one.

 

[mldardy]

The OL must be held accountable for playing poorly enough to contribute to Weeden's inability to play better just as they were when Romo had so many problems when we played Washington. Granted, Weeden isn't any QB resembling the level of Romo but if their failure to protect Romo caused him problems, it certainly would be more than likely to do much the same with Weeden. No, AZ didn't blitz as much as Washington did but they also were causing enough disruption to bother many backup QBs. I'm certainly not trying to absolve Weeden of the blame that he surely deserves -- just saying that the OL played poorly enough to share the blame. This is a very young OL that has had replacements injected into it recently -- and it happens to many OLs, not just ours.

The OL didn't play poorly. What game were you watching. I pointed out that the run blocking and pass protection were pretty good for the most part. Weeden failed to make plays.

 

[Gadfly22]

I'm expecting Cole Beasley to show up at my house some time soon, since I figure he must have heard me yelling "BEASLEYBEASLEYBEASLEY" at Weeden loud enough to be heard from my living room and will want to know why I was calling him.

 

[Doomsday101]

The OL must be held accountable for playing poorly enough to contribute to Weeden's inability to play better just as they were when Romo had so many problems when we played Washington. Granted, Weeden isn't any QB resembling the level of Romo but if their failure to protect Romo caused him problems, it certainly would be more than likely to do much the same with Weeden. No, AZ didn't blitz as much as Washington did but they also were causing enough disruption to bother many backup QBs. I'm certainly not trying to absolve Weeden of the blame that he surely deserves -- just saying that the OL played poorly enough to share the blame. This is a very young OL that has had replacements injected into it recently -- and it happens to many OLs, not just ours. I think they simply have work to do before thay are able to contend with the more adept teams that are able to rush the passer effectively. AZ is just one.

Dallas gave up 1 sack vs that blitz. They slowed the blitz down but your not going to halt it completely since you have more rushers than pass protectors but outside of 1 sack they did not play that poorly

 

[CT Dal Fan]

The OL didn't play poorly. What game were you watching. I pointed out that the run blocking and pass protection were pretty good for the most part. Weeden failed to make plays.

True. A healthy Romo would have picked Arizona apart yesterday with the time Weeden was given on most of his passes.

 

[Bullflop]

The OL didn't play poorly. What game were you watching. I pointed out that the run blocking and pass protection were pretty good for the most part. Weeden failed to make plays.

If you didn't notice the pass rush we were being subjected to, I think you might not have been paying attention. Yes, I would agree that Weeden did more than his share of blunders on his own but let's not be in denial here.

 

[Doomsday101]

If you didn't notice the pass rush we were being subjected to, I think you might not have been paying attention. Yes, I would agree that Weeden did more than his share of blunders on his own but let's not be in denial here.

Don't think we are being in denial. Last week Dallas gave up 5 sacks this week they gave up 1 and while there is pressure coming that is going to happen when you have more rushers than guys protecting but overall they did give time and Weeden was unable to attack.

 

[mldardy]

If you didn't notice the pass rush we were being subjected to, I think you might not have been paying attention. Yes, I would agree that Weeden did more than his share of blunders on his own but let's not be in denial here.

LOL you weren't paying attention. The oline held up to the pass rush we were being subjected to. Weeden wasn't running for his life most of the time. He had time to make throws he didn't make them. You need to rewatch the game again.

 

[burmafrd]

If you didn't notice the pass rush we were being subjected to, I think you might not have been paying attention. Yes, I would agree that Weeden did more than his share of blunders on his own but let's not be in denial here.

you need to take football 101.

 

[Bullflop]

Dallas gave up 1 sack vs that blitz. They slowed the blitz down but your not going to halt it completely since you have more rushers than pass protectors but outside of 1 sack they did not play that poorly

I'm sure you know sacks aren't the only thing to cause QBs problems. Pressure can be quite bothersome as well. There was enough of that happening to disrupt many a backup. Yes, Weeden played horribly, I have fully acknowledged that fact. He made more than his share of miscues on his own. Yet there was plenty of room for improvement against some of that pressure he was getting from a very good AZ defense as well. BW isn't the type of backup to make our team fortunate to have him but I do think our OL needs more work before it's going to be pass blocking consistently vs. teams that employ the blitz as well as the two we've seen lately. Not saying they played poorly just not quite as well for many a backup to succeed -- especially one as limited as Weeden.

 

[crashintonickdm]

we are starting to do a little better with pressure, i think. I've got a positive feeling that we're gonna get hot in late december and at least be in the NFC title game still. we weren't gonna go undefeated the rest of the way.

 

[Bullflop]

you need to take football 101.

You need to abandon your denial that the OL didn't put forth nearly their best outing Sunday.