week 2,what is your biggest worry..

[redskins1]

THEEBS...thanks for your take,i just feel like if the skins win that game that a serious skins winning streak against your cowboys is on...who else feels that why?

 

[Hostile]

THEEBS...thanks for your take,i just feel like if the skins win that game that a serious skins winning streak against your cowboys is on...who else feels that why?

3 games isn't a serious streak. It's a mini streak and you haven't won it yet. Wishful thinking is good. In this case it's also premature.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Being healthy by the time week two rolls around. That's all that I care about. I don't care who we play. I think we have a chance to beat anyone this season as long as we're healthy.

 

[redskins1]

HOSTILE,thanks for your take,but after what happen last year,and the changes made by your team this offseason..if the skins come in your house on that monday night and win,that would be a huge statement on both sides,and will start to cause some doubt in your teams head..point being that game is bigger for your squad then my squad...can we agree on that?

 

[theogt]

I'd say a win for the Commanders would be bigger than a win for Dallas considering Vegas will likely have Dallas up by at least 7.

 

[Hostile]

HOSTILE,thanks for your take,but after what happen last year,and the changes made by your team this offseason..if the skins come in your house on that monday night and win,that would be a huge statement on both sides,and will start to cause some doubt in your teams head..point being that game is bigger for your squad then my squad...can we agree on that?

Home games are always bigger for the host team unless it's the end of the season and playoffs are on the line.

What if Dallas wins week 1 and the Skins lose week 1? Who is under more pressure to win now? Can you accept the fact that there are all kinds of scenarios that could screw up your little wish?

This division is going to be a nightmare. Every division game will be critical for both sides. Week 2 isn't the end of the world. No matter how much you hope Dallas is sunk already, week 2 won't be it.

 

[redskins1]

HOSTILE,,,i see you still dont get what im saying..its not about what happens in the season,of course if the skins beat you,you still can accomplish your goals,i am talking about our rivalry,and how if the skins win that 1st game in big d,what kind of affect it will have on your teams mind on our head to head games..our you with me now? with all due respect of course!!!

 

[RiggoForever]

To answer your question Redskins1, no.

Too much pride in players like T.O. Roy and Newman.

Too many seasoned vets like Bledsoe, Glenn and Ellis.

Too many young players who are hungry to prove themselves.

Parcells won't let it happen..... only way it happens is if you sweep us in close games and break our will in both.

I agree with this 100%. Last year we played out of our minds at home and were very opportunistic on defense, and were fortunate to be able to take the jugular by halftime.

If it was most anyone else coaching I'd say it would be possible to get in the head of a rival NFC East team long term, but not with Parcells or Gibbs at the helm.

 

[Hostile]

HOSTILE,,,i see you still dont get what im saying..its not about what happens in the season,of course if the skins beat you,you still can accomplish your goals,i am talking about our rivalry,and how if the skins win that 1st game in big d,what kind of affect it will have on your teams mind on our head to head games..our you with me now? with all due respect of course!!!

I can't say it any clearer.

Week 2 establishes nothing.

In week 12 last year Indianpolis crushed Pittsburgh on MNF 26-7. What did that mean for the playoffs? Jack squat.

We're your Super Bowl. You've even said as much. You're not ours. The Eagles were the monkey on our backs just like we were the monkey on yours. If we beat the Eagles week 5 in Philly I'm not going to be crowing about an amazing streak. It will still be 3 games.

Forgive me for not seeing how important beating us is for you, but I'm worried about a lot more than week 2.

 

[Hostile]

I agree with this 100%. Last year we played out of our minds at home and were very opportunistic on defense, and were fortunate to be able to take the jugular by halftime.

If it was most anyone else coaching I'd say it would be possible to get in the head of a rival NFC East team long term, but not with Parcells or Gibbs at the helm.

Very good post. We're not talking about clabber for brains head coaches who get flustered and take up chain smoking when things get rough. Not in the NFCE.

 

[Bizwah]

The thing I'm worried most about week 2????

Well, if we win, I'm worried that all the Skin's fans that have graced our board will vanish and never return. I think the author of this thread will never be seen on this board again. I'd hate to see them not take their medicine.

Seriously, I don't see how a loss in week 2 would make any difference. We lost to the Skins in a heartbreaker in week two last season. We were on our way to a Division crown until we were derailed by injuries.

 

[tunahelper]

I have a sense that all of us and the players that we are entering the season with high expectations. From articles I read there is an air around the ranch that something special is building.
So to answer you I believe week one is crucial. If we lose against the Jags, then we must win against the foreskins!
If not this becomes a hard road to how, but not impossible. Certainly and objective analysis of roster will show we are the most talent in the East. I talk to Foreskin fans who say Terrell doesnt make that much difference.
I ask them if Santa Moss helped their offense last year?
Also can you blitz us effectively with TO slanting against one-one coverage?
Now ask is you #2WR, TE better than ours? Hell No!
Portis is better, but if Jones plays to ability and heath look out!
What the casual fan then misses is our up in coming defense and next year we will become household names.
I say can Brunell break history again this year and stay healthy for 16 games?
Appears the offseason is answering that one for us.
Ha!

 

[AsthmaField]

It's just the second game of the season. That's all. I know Commander fans want it to be a huge deal... and from it being a rivalry standpoint it will be a little more that just another game... but still, the significance of the game is just that of game number two. No more, no less.

A loss by Dallas wouldn't get in their heads, in my opinion. We still have a lot of young guys on defense and I think they know they'll improve as the season wears on. They'll have another stab at the Skins and the season will be far from over. A loss wouldn't be that big of a deal. The season is a marathon, not a sprint and all the players look at it like that.

By game two, there still will be rookies getting used to the NFL... TO will still be getting used to his new team, the O-Line will still be gelling, Bledsoe will still be getting used to TO and a predominantly two TE set. We'll still be breaking in a new FS and a couple of new LB's.

Any way you look at it... the second game of the season just isn't that big of a deal and the Cowboys will be a lot better later in the season. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Dallas drops that one to the Skins... but I think they end the season ahead of Washington in the standings.

No, it won't get in the players heads if they lose in week 2. Just like the big loss at FedEx won't have any effect either. They know the game in Washington last year was just one of those days... just like when the Skins got blown out by the Giants was just one of those days. The players understand those things, unlike most fans.

Washington rebounded to beat the Giants in the second game last year, proving that the first game last year wasn't a difference in talent... but that it was simply one of those days.

Same thing with Dallas losing at FedEx... just one of those games. The first game this year could easily be a Dallas loss and it not effect the rest of the season.

Sorry man... but if Washington lucks out and beats dallas in week 2, it won't take us out of contention. I know you're worried about Dallas, but you won't get rid of us that easily.

And as for what I, as a fan worry about with the skins... well, there isn't any one thing in particular. I think the Commanders are a pretty good team and I think they could beat Dallas if things fall right for them, but there isn't one player or one position that worries me.

There really isn't anyone or anything special about the Commanders. They play solid ball and have good coaching... but the running game, the passing game, the pass rush, the coverage... none of it worries me, like say, the Giants pass rush does.

The Commanders O-Line isn't overpowering. Portis isn't a bruiser. The pass rush is pedestrian. The WR's are okay, but don't scare me. The LB's are solid but unspectacular. The QB is creaky and manages the game. Cooley is solid but doesn't worry anyone. The D-Line stops the run but isn't comprised of bruisers.

No, not much worries anyone about the Commanders... they're just solid. Because they've been so bad for so long... I guess Skins fans think they may worry someone now... but they're just solid.

Face it... Tampa just plain sucked last season and beating them in the playoffs is nothing to toot your own horn about. We played Seattle in Seattle much better than Washington did and we really should've beaten them. You're making a mistake giving the Commanders too much credit for their season last year.

Going to the second round of the playoffs sounds pretty good... but we all have eyes and saw Washington in the playoffs. You better hope you had some upgrades this offseason.

That's my honest take on you guys... no sour grapes here. You simply weren't very good last year and will have to go a ways to be much better this season.

I hope this helps.

 

[RiggoForever]

Very good post. We're not talking about clabber for brains head coaches who get flustered and take up chain smoking when things get rough. Not in the NFCE.

Exactly. Both coaches have shown they can get players to believe, and when that happens, anything can happen any given Sunday.

Both teams have won and lost big in the division last year. Also, when you know an opponent as well as a division rival, upsets can happen anytime. The Eagles without McNabb, Westbrook, or TO took the Giants into overtime and weren't overcome by the Commanders until the 4th quarter at the Linc.

 

[redskins1]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...

 

[Hostile]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...

In your rmind. Maybe in the minds of some other fans. I seriously doubt the players will be reaching for Kleenex.

What happens if Dallas absolutely spanks the Skins? For reference let's say it's 35 to 10. What does it mean? Exactly what I've already said, not much other than we won a game. I doubt it causes the Commanders (team, not sure on the fans) to want to end it all. I doubt it makes them think the seaosn is a waste.

Week 2 sends no messages other than the loser needs to work harder. Fans over react to wins and losses. Football teams rarely do.

 

[AsthmaField]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...

In your opinion... not in many other's, I'd bet... and certainly not in the player's minds.

Like Hos said... we're one win away from a 3 game winning streak over Philly. Big deal. I won't look at it as any kind of a streak if we win game number 1 this year and I don't think the players would either.

Not after Philly owned us for the last few years. It would be very short sighted and merely living in the moment to think three in a row means very much.

Like Hos said... Washington wants to beat Dallas way more than Dallas wants to beat the Skins. Your coach and owner had complete skingasms last year when you got lucky with those two bombs in Dallas. Did Parcells and Jerry Jones act that way every time they beat the SKins? Of course not.

It's way bigger for you guys than for us. Winning for 5 years straight will do that I guess.

Put as much meaning as you want in week two... just understand that for the rest of the world, it's only the second game of the season.

 

[Bizwah]

AGAIN, a win by the skins week 2,would be huge in terms of were our rivalry is heading..based on last years results of course also...

Conjecture.....

The first game is big mainly because it's a division game. A loss by either team is a step back, but not a season-ending game, nor does it have any bearing on our rivalry.

 

[RiggoForever]

Any way you look at it... the second game of the season just isn't that big of a deal and the Cowboys will be a lot better later in the season. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Dallas drops that one to the Skins... but I think they end the season ahead of Washington in the standings.

Washington rebounded to beat the Giants in the second game last year, proving that the first game last year wasn't a difference in talent... but that it was simply one of those days.

There really isn't anyone or anything special about the Commanders. They play solid ball and have good coaching... but the running game, the passing game, the pass rush, the coverage... none of it worries me, like say, the Giants pass rush does.

Face it... Tampa just plain sucked last season and beating them in the playoffs is nothing to toot your own horn about. We played Seattle in Seattle much better than Washington did and we really should've beaten them. You're making a mistake giving the Commanders too much credit for their season last year.

Going to the second round of the playoffs sounds pretty good... but we all have eyes and saw Washington in the playoffs. You better hope you had some upgrades this offseason.

That's my honest take on you guys... no sour grapes here. You simply weren't very good last year and will have to go a ways to be much better this season.

Ok,

1. I think it will be a huge deal to the Cowboys fans and players. TOs first game at Texas Stadium, and 60,000 screaming fans wanting revenge for last year. Not to mention Parcells, who took the loss very personally.

2. I agree 100% that all games start 0-0 and with the coaches in this division, nobody is going to be packing it in before the game starts based on the results of a previous game.

3. If I wasn't a Commanders fan, I'd agree with you that we don't have the amount of talent other teams have. But not everything in the NFL can be spelled out by stats and paper, particularly because at this level everybodys good. The Commanders are tough-minded and will fight for 60 minutes, even when on the road and with an injured QB, RB, and no number 2 receiver.

4. Tampa sucked? They went 5-1 in the NFC South last season, won their division, and had the number 1 defense in the NFL with an offense that was emerging at the end of the season with both a solid running and passing game. How do you qualify that as sucking?

5. I agree, 10-6 is good, not very good. Everyone in this division has something to prove this season.

 

[DragonCowboy]

My biggest fear? "redskins1" won't have any grammar skills. Oh wait...