Went back & watched game closer: we had some tough calls against us

[windjc]

The truth is that Minnesota's defense did not exactly stop us. We stopped ourselves. Unless you give the defense credit for stopping 1st and 25s or 2nd and 18s.

Without penalties and fumbles, I didn't see Minny do much.

 

[xvendettax914]

I think the biggest lesson that can be taken from this experience is that, for once, seemingly game changing crippling penalties against the Cowboys during big plays no longer sink this team. Regardless of outside influence this team can overcome, and that, is very refreshing and encouraging.

 

[Nightman]

There are just way too many penalties being called every week......you have to be a lawyer to enjoy this type of game.....too many challenges and flags take away any spontaneous excitement

Replay was supposed to be a safety net to fix huge blown calls but now they use it to try and turn big plays into do-overs.....it has ruined the sport imo......I liked it better when the call was made and that was it

 

[pugilist]

"Tough calls"

I feel like this is the politically correct way to say absolute horse **** calls. Corrente or however the hell you spell his name and his crew did everything they could to give that game to the Viqueens, lucky for the Cowboys they are beyond putrid

 

[jrumann59]

I think the biggest lesson that can be taken from this experience is that, for once, seemingly game changing crippling penalties against the Cowboys during big plays no longer sink this team. Regardless of outside influence this team can overcome, and that, is very refreshing and encouraging.

At this point I will call that an aberation in terms of penalties. This team has been pretty disciplined in paying attention to detail on procedural stuff. This offense has been very good in penalties. I will chalk it up to 3 games in 13 days

 

[gmoney112]

Yeah, I'm noticing a common theme. Primetime games will always have officiating keep it close. It's happened in every primetime game I've watched.

The Chiefs/Broncos was a travesty as well. The Broncos got completely robbed in that game because the officiating kept spotting the Chiefs first downs, the 2 out of 3 times they actually did anything on offense. Broncos ended up losing.

Commanders game was bad too . If you watched the Eagles/Packers game, they were itching to throw flags, Wentz just sucks and got tossed around like a sack of potatoes before they could call a penalty.

Now this, to keep us from going up significantly when the Vikings offense is atrocious.

It's funny. The NFL, in general, just doesn't give a crap about the product on the field. That's why games are basically just a stream of commercials with some football thrown in, that's why they gave fans the finger making them jump through hoops and sign contracts with a brick and mortar satellite company, in an age of streaming content, for NFL packages. That's why they don't hire full-time officials.

And now they have drastically falling viewership and ratings. The problem? The DirecTV deal isn't done for another 6 years or so.

What's your fallback if you're facing falling viewers and you can't opt out of a deal because you saw how many billions were in that check when you signed it? Make games exciting.

Exciting games are close. Close games keep people watching, get people talking. The NFL is trying to hemorrhage their loss in viewership at the expense of the rules.

Whatever keeps us tuned in. It's really arrogant. What happened to improving the actual product? I guess when franchises are just fun revenue streams for billionaires, that's probably too much to ask.

 

[Zman5]

Scandrick call was the worst because it was the Vikings player who shoved OScan's arm/hand up to the helmet. Scandrick had his hand on the shoulder/neck area before the shove.

 

[newera]

It seems like most of the posters here don't understand clipping. Not only do you have to go below the waist, the defender also had to be engaged with another blocker. So him going below the waist is irrelevant here.

That's a chop block, not clipping

 

[Alohawg1]

I'd like to know wth results are when the league reviews games with such horse crap calls like these, anything?

 

[ConstantReboot]

There are just way too many penalties being called every week......you have to be a lawyer to enjoy this type of game.....too many challenges and flags take away any spontaneous excitement

Replay was supposed to be a safety net to fix huge blown calls but now they use it to try and turn big plays into do-overs.....it has ruined the sport imo......I liked it better when the call was made and that was it

Best way to solve this? Don't call penalties. Let them play. All those plays did not warrant a penalty at all. Refs need to keep those yellow flags in their pockets and stop making the game look boring.

 

[tm1119]

You need to take your cowboys colored sunglasses off if you don't think that's a clear hold on Free. Free's left hand was pulling Kendrick's right shoulder away from the hole Zeke was running through.

And while clipping was the wrong call that was also clearly a penalty on Escobar. Just a plain old hold probably would have sufficed though.

Scandrick call? Yeah, that was a crappy call

 

[Section446]

Unfortunately, bad calls are just commonplace now. You just have to hope that you're not the victim at the wrong time.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Tough to see what happened on the Free call. He dominated Kendricks for the first half of the block and I'll give Kendricks credit for somehow not falling down and being able to get out from under Free. It looked like Kendricks really took the time to sell it though.

I thought Escobar clipped Robison. It wasn't on purpose, but he did IMO.

I just hate hearing about the hands to helmet on the 2-point try while everybody neglects that the LT for Minny clearly made a false start which would move them back 5-yards and the play never happens.




YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You need to take your cowboys colored sunglasses off if you don't think that's a clear hold on Free. Free's left hand was pulling Kendrick's right shoulder away from the hole Zeke was running through.

I don't know how anybody could say that was a clear hold or it was clearly not a hold. You can't tell from that particular camera angle if it was or wasn't.






YR

 

[DogFace]

FYI-here are the videos of the first three to help with the inevitable debate:

All three of those were absolutely rediculous. The flopping taken from a soccer match worked for them on the Free hold. The hands to the face only happened because he pushed Scandricks arm up into his helmet.

The clip was just bad. Really, I can't remember seeing a clip called in a run. Let alone right at the line of scrimmage. It's often called on returns.

Those were all game changing calls. The refs have a profound impact on the game these days.

 

[joseephuss]

It seems like most of the posters here don't understand clipping. Not only do you have to go below the waist, the defender also had to be engaged with another blocker. So him going below the waist is irrelevant here.

You are describing a chop block. Clipping is different as described below. Didn't look like a clip to me, but it did look like a hold by Escobar.


SECTION 6
CLIPPING
Clipping is blocking an opponent from behind below the waist, provided the opponent is not a runner. It is not clipping if an
opponent turns his back as the block is delivered or about to be delivered.
Note
s:
(1) It is clipping (including in close line play) if an offensive player’s block (legal or illegal) is followed by the blocker rolling up on the side or back of the legs of the defender.
(2) See 12-2-1 for additional interpretations or restrictions concerning clipping in close-line play.


SECTION 2
PERSONAL FOULS
ARTICLE 1
. CLIPPING.
There shall be no clipping against a non-runner. This does not apply to offensive blocking in close-line play where it is legal to clip above the knee(s), but it is illegal to clip at or below the knee(s).
If an offensive player’s block(legal or illegal) is followed by the blocker rolling up on the back or side of the leg(s) of a defender, it is clipping, including in close-line play. Close-line play is that which occurs in an area extending laterally to the position originally occupied by the offensive tackles and longitudinally three yards on either side of the line of scrimmage. See 3-7, close-line play.

Exception:
An offensive lineman may not clip a defender above the knees who, at the snap, is aligned on the line of scrimmage opposite another offensive lineman who is more than one position away, and the defender is responding to the flow of the ball away from the blocker.
Example:
Tackle cannot clip nose tackle on a sweep away.
Note:
If there is a block from the side, or if an opponent turns his back as the block is being made, it is not clipping if the opponent is able to see or ward off the block. Provided the blocker does not roll up on the back or side of the opponent’s leg(s).
(a) When a blocker, who is moving in the same direction as an opponent, initially contacts the opponent on his side, and subsequently contacts the opponent below his waist from behind, it is not clipping if the contact is continuous.
(b) Clipping shall not be called if an official has not observed the blocker’s initial contact with an opponent.

 

[joseephuss]

I don't know how anybody could say that was a clear hold or it was clearly not a hold. You can't tell from that particular camera angle if it was or wasn't.






YR

It was a clear hold and an unnecessary one. You can see it on the angle from the endzone.

 

[Zordon]

4) The only clear violation was Zeke's hold. That was clearly a hold. All the other calls involving contact with other players were either flat out wrong or highly debatable. Maybe the NFL did want us to lose before the Giants' game??? (actually I don't really believe those conspiracy theories, but dang those bad calls really hurt).

Look at the hared in Mara's eyes. He'll do anything to sabotage us from within.

 

[DogFace]

Look at the hared in Mara's eyes. He'll do anything to sabotage us from within.

That's him smiling to a granddaughter.

 

[JDSmith]

In the wake of the non-call on the 2 point conversion I saw a post on a Giants board complaining that all crucial calls go our way. I didn't bother to respond, but it's comical that people only see the last (non)call as being crucial, without noticing all of the potentially crucial penalties that kept it close. The only reason they are not viewed as crucial at the end of the game is because we overcame them.