Wentz is better than Dak in some things at this point

Gaede

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I re-watched the game last night and listening to Collingsworth: Every time Wentz was playing, he used words like in control, leader, smart, accurate, effective, great. "He's certainly played better than what I thought and taken the lead in this game". as in the lead between the 2 QB's
Most of the time Dak was playing. "He has to be careful down on this end not to make a mistake" and "This is where he threw an interception last time" "He's been questionably good for the most part tonight". Nothing negative when W threw that gift pic to Oscan at the end. And yes the complements when he got sacked was ridiculous. You could even hear Al grimace in despair when Oscan was about to sac Wentz.
I could go on and on and I think until Dak consistently leads this team deep in the playoffs there will be questions about him. Is what it is. Wentz will get a pass because of statistics and he is a pretty good QB.
You hit the nail on the head
 

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So one needs to present an argument to refute your opinion?

I've continually heard nothing but Wentz being the next Andy Luck since the spring, but he's not impressed me. That's my opinion and you can't legitimately argue otherwise.

BTW, Andrew luck is overrated, as well. I'd rather have Stafford or Carr.
I agree with every word! What if the six GMs they polled were from Jacksonville, Cleveland, Jets, Bills, Tennessee, and Miami? Would that change the OP's agenda?

Year after year we are presented with evidence that there are many NFL GMs, scouts, etc that plain suck at their jobs and when I hear anonymous voices from their sorry ranks it only confirms their suckage.
 

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We are 6-1 and beat the Eagles. Our D showed up in the 4th quarter and made 4 straight stops.

Their D could not stop our O in the 4th quarter or OT, if it wasn't for our stupid penalties their O would not have had some of their scores they did.
About the only thing their D did was confuse Dak and make him hurry some throws. Like the GB D gave him different looks from what was on film. Butguess what, he and the coaches made adjustments and figured it out.
We WON both games and they did not lose it, we won it.

So I would not trade our D for the Eagles D. We are 6-1 top of the NFC, so why change what is working. Yes, we still need a pass rush though, then we are set.
 

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Sunday night was supposed to be Wentz's national coming out partay.

Collinsworth was just waiting to explode all over the screen and the moment never really came.

If Eagle opponents tackle well they really aren't a threat
 

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Wentz has shown to be much better at collapsing in the 4th quarter with the game on the line and throwing key interceptions that cost his team the game..


That is all.
People could care less about heart, grit, composure. They care about system QB who makes all the throws. BTW, I don't think Wentz was never under the type of pressure all night that Dak was under. Did they consider that?
 

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I think both Dak and Wentz are 2 very good young rookie QB who will be battling each other for years to come.
 

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I was reading some of the reports and wanted to share. I am not sure that this has been posted before so the mods can delete if so.

Mike Francesa, WFAN in New York City: Wentz, in what they're asking him to do he's doing it very well. He's accurate with the ball. He's a good passer. He looks the part, he really does. He really looks the part. So there are some things about Prescott that will show you how rough he is around the edges. You like his composure and you like the fact he doesn't rattle. He's still very rough around the edges in some parts at quarterbacking while Wentz is much more polished in what he's doing right now.

Colin Cowherd, FOX Sports 1: [Wentz] is really special. He doesn't have that Cowboy O-line, he doesn't have Ezekiel Elliott, he's got nothing to work with on the outside. I really like him. There was a couple plays [Sunday] when he got sacked from behind and didn't fumble. I think he's a very strong, athletic [and] nimble kid. I think he's good at the line of scrimmage. Both those quarterbacks [Wentz and Prescott] are. But I'll say it again: I like Dak, but boy that ensemble he's playing with. Ezekiel's better than I thought. Tyron Smith, that left tackle; I read a football site like a week ago and they called him like the sixth best tackle. I don't know who the other five are because last night, he's pushing guys around. I think Wentz is a really special player.

I'm sure they've had this article in the barrel for weeks, just waiting for Dak to have a bad game. It finally happened.
 

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I'm not altogether that impressed with either of these quarterbacks.

I don't think either are going to be in the Payton Manning class or even the Andrew Luck class.

I do think that if Wentz had the supporting cast that Prescott does that he would obviously be better and no Cowboys fan can legitimately argue otherwise.

I'm not sure if we would trade Morris for Sproles, let alone Ezekiel Elliott.

Not sure if we would trade Williams or Beasley for Jordan Matthews, let alone Dez Bryant.

Would we trade any of our offensive linemen for theirs?

I would trade Escobar for Ertz, but that's about it....

Andrew Luck is so ridiculously overrated it isn't funny.
 

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The truth is, neither of these quarterbacks has really shown that much more than being very mature and poised for rookies in the NFL. That in itself is important and promising, but it doesn't ensure anything beyond being just another Ryan Fitzpatrick in the end.

Wentz is a bit more polished, but nothing that Dak can't match in time. Dak has a far better situation right now on offense, but Wentz has a better defense to hide his mistakes. Both have significant accuracy issues, and they have a WORLD to learn. Time will tell.

Both guys are coming down to earth, but each seems the willing student. Philly did well to trade up and get Wentz, and the Cowboys now have honest hope for the future.

Both are benefitting from an NFL that mostly just sucks. Bad teams abound.
 

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I agree with every word! What if the six GMs they polled were from Jacksonville, Cleveland, Jets, Bills, Tennessee, and Miami? Would that change the OP's agenda?

Year after year we are presented with evidence that there are many NFL GMs, scouts, etc that plain suck at their jobs and when I hear anonymous voices from their sorry ranks it only confirms their suckage.

Yes, people talk about our GM, but they fail to talk about others.

I have a friend, he hates everything but he keeps saying Jerry is a bad GM and will give him no credit for this year. I even tell him Will McClay does more on player personnel than Jerry, but he is a hard headed idiot, and still holds a grudge about, Landry, and Jimmy and Parcells. He's an idiot, no use to explain him.

And another amazing thing I heard yesterday, a guy said that Jerry lets
stephen make the player decisions, but Stephen doesn't do it, he lets. Charlotte handle it all....***....man there are misinformed people out there. And they aren't the idiots, it's the ones in the media that say this.

So that got the other guy started, about the Cowboys and Rangers have the worse GM's. as he is mad about Nolan Ryan leaving the Rangers organization. So he totally turns on the teams. Like I said he is an idiot, and myself and 10 others told him that too. He still lives in 1969 from a Longhorns appointed championship, and he don't even remember it, as to appreciate the moment in time, as he would have been 6 years old at the time. LOL. A bit off topic there, but this shows the mentality of some people out there.
 

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Both have mechanical issues to clean up from what I saw Sunday night.

Wentz has a hitch in his throw and tends to throw low. He also needs to work on his touch. I don't know about his long-range accuracy because we didn't see it in this game, but he works the short game well at least.

When Dak starts feeling pressure, his footwork gets a little sloppy. He reverted to going up on his tiptoes when he throws at times and didn't always reset his feet. He has not figured out how to throw fade passes in the end zone and seems to be at his best with mid-range accuracy. The deep ball he threw to Dez was his best long-range pass this season.

It's hard to say how either would fare in the other's system, but I haven't seen any reason to believe they would fail if you swapped them. Both offenses are passer friendly in different ways.
 

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Folks seem to forget.

What really won that game, from Dak's perspective, were his legs.

A few first downs and a TD.

That's one tangible he definitely has over Wentz. Period.

For me, that's priceless in today's NFL.

EDIT: With that being said I DO like he's a pass first QB. Legs are a bonus.
 
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I'm not altogether that impressed with either of these quarterbacks.

I don't think either are going to be in the Payton Manning class or even the Andrew Luck class.

I do think that if Wentz had the supporting cast that Prescott does that he would obviously be better and no Cowboys fan can legitimately argue otherwise.

I'm not sure if we would trade Morris for Sproles, let alone Ezekiel Elliott.

Not sure if we would trade Williams or Beasley for Jordan Matthews, let alone Dez Bryant.

Would we trade any of our offensive linemen for theirs?

I would trade Escobar for Ertz, but that's about it....

If you think Andrew Luck is an elite QB, you should throw that tag on Blake Bortles and Marcus Mariota while you're at it. Luck is the most overrated player this game has ever seen. Your whole post is discredited for this comparison alone.
 

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Wentz played in a pro style offense in college, Dak didn't. Dak has a big upside as he will continue to improve as he adjusts to the pro style offense. Not saying Wentz won't get better too.
 

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Dak showed he's got a lot of work to do on Sunday. Nothing wrong with that, it's where he's at in his development.

I don't understand why Wentz gets a pass, either. He was relatively ineffective. It was like watching Weeden run our offense last year. Line of sight passing at or near the line of scrimmage. Good percentages but ineffective. If he won't attempt the hard stuff--or if his coaches won't let him--how can anybody conclude he's ahead? All we know is that he looks great at coloring within the lines. If that carries over to everything else eventually, then, great. The Eagles will have found themselves a QB. I think somehow I'll be able to live with that.
 
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