Wentz is better than Dak in some things at this point

superonyx

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Or maybe, they know he'll get killed if he doesn't get it out of there asap behind that horrible offensive line.
It's possible. It's also possible that he has struggled with some reads down field so far in his career. The truth usually lies between both extremes.

We can't know how good or bad Wentz really is right now.
But we can say objectively enough that he hasn't yet shown (regardless of reason) to be superior to Dak in almost every category. As Cowboys fans we are lucky that we can make a case for our guy without having to roll off a bunch of excuses.
 

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The thing I hated about Dak against the Eagles was he had happy feet and was throwing off his back foot. He has to step forward into his throws. He missed so many open receivers downfield and his reads were not on in that game for the most part. This is where Romo is head of heels ahead of Dak in reading defences, audibles and passing.
I'm sorry, what year did Romo go 16 and 0?
 

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Dak interception was simply dropped.

Actually you are wrong. It was Wentzs interception that hit Scandrick in the chest and was dropped.
The ball that Leodis McKelvin didn't catch was not a ball that has a high probability of being caught by any player. McKelvin made an excellent play to even get his hands on that pass.

Why do you bring this up and put this spin on it?

Wentz has now had 3 games in his hands to put the other team away late in the forth. He has soiled himself in each opportunity. Dak played a pretty bad game but when given the opportunity he made the plays Wentz hasn't show the ability to make so far.
 

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Everyone in here should go read the breakdown of Wentzs game. There were open receivers down field. He just chose to go with his first read. Multiple times. He's gun shy according to the report. He didn't throw an intermediate pass until the 3rd quarter for God's sake. And we are still arguing the issue. Dak won the game for his team. It's that simple. I'm so sick of the supporting cast argument. Let's look at dak in college shall we? He won how many games and set records with NOBODIES in one of if not the hardest divisions in college ball to my knowledge. And we are talking about supporting casts? Get out of here with this nonsense.
 

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This myth is perpetuated by the press and fans. At this point no one knows who is better.

Especially when you look at the surrounding players and offensive play calling. Doesn't mean i think Dak can be better. But it will take several years of starting for both of them, and still you cannot compare apples to flat tires if their teams are not successful at putting talent around these players.

Maybe why I think the elite arguments about quarterbacks on this board is about as significant as doodling.

Completely agree
Prescott may have better offensive weapons but Wentz a way way better defense which is very important. He can dink and dunk and not have to push things because he will not get too far behind because of the defense. Dak does not have the same luxury

IMO both QBs have been exceeded expectations. Who is really better we won't know until the end of NEXT season

The narrative that Wentz is better is the result of many Philly homers being in the media
 

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Six anonymous NFL personnel members: Before Prescott and Wentz played one another ESPN's Mike Sando polled six NFL personnel members to see who they'd pick between the two rookies. All six voted for Wentz. Here's a short part of Sando's article (which can be read here in its entirety):

All six said they would still take Wentz over Prescott now, but the gap between the two would be much smaller.

"Don't get me wrong, I'd take either one right now, sign a 10-year contract and go," the GM said. "Dak has done nothing wrong. Just the way Wentz goes about his business, he impresses me a lot. Wentz reminds me of Ben Roethlisberger -- a big guy who can stand back there and throw it."

All agreed that Wentz and Prescott seem driven to excel, which can be pivotal for long-term success as long as the player possesses sufficient talent. All agreed that Wentz is more advanced reading through progressions, an area where Prescott is improving. All agreed that Wentz and Prescott possessed the poise and overall makeup to succeed. Longer term, they want to see how both function as passers when forced to win games with their arms. That is always the ultimate test for quarterbacks.
I'm not going to argue or get defensive about what these are saying even tho that was my first impulse. Reading this stuff, and Thank You for posting it, kind of excites me. Their saying that Dak can improve on things and get better, well in my book he's playing good enough to be on a 6 game win streak and our team is 2nd in the power rankings AND he can improve! Look out NFL.
 

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I'm looking at the entire team. You're trying to credit/discredit both of them based on wins and losses, which is ridiculous.
Would you like 4-3 or 6-1? Of course you'd like 4-3. You do know that Wentz was throwing 2 yard passes. My dead grandma can throw those and be 75%.
 

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Actually you are wrong. It was Wentzs interception that hit Scandrick in the chest and was dropped.
The ball that Leodis McKelvin didn't catch was not a ball that has a high probability of being caught by any player. McKelvin made an excellent play to even get his hands on that pass.

Why do you bring this up and put this spin on it?

Wentz has now had 3 games in his hands to put the other team away late in the forth. He has soiled himself in each opportunity. Dak played a pretty bad game but when given the opportunity he made the plays Wentz hasn't show the ability to make so far.

Put my spin on it?

Some aren't capable of objectivity when it goes against what they want to believe. Most of them post here.
 

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True, because Dallas sat in a zone. But look who he has to throw to. Five guys named Broderick.

And it was 23-13, remember, before Pederson went nutty.
Do you remember the part where Dak came back with 2 TD passes before your boy could throw anything else?
 

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Completely agree
Prescott may have better offensive weapons but Wentz a way way better defense which is very important. He can dink and dunk and not have to push things because he will not get too far behind because of the defense. Dak does not have the same luxury

IMO both QBs have been exceeded expectations. Who is really better we won't know until the end of NEXT season

The narrative that Wentz is better is the result of many Philly homers being in the media

Maybe but then how many here have said Terrance Williams needs to go? or how Brice Butler is a JAG, even Witten who can't manage to get YAC, then of course undrafted Cole Beasley who is having a career year with Dak. Better not forget the RB whom the Cowboys screwed up by taking him with the 4th overall pick. lol

I don't recall a lot of praising this group of players heading into the season. lol
 

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Didn't our guy throw 3 very interceptable 2nd half passes that would've "choked the game away"?
Yes but he also led a game tying 4th qtr drive and won in overtime. I'll take the good with the bad, cuz his good is really good.
 

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Everyone in here should go read the breakdown of Wentzs game. There were open receivers down field. He just chose to go with his first read. Multiple times. He's gun shy according to the report. He didn't throw an intermediate pass until the 3rd quarter for God's sake. And we are still arguing the issue. Dak won the game for his team. It's that simple. I'm so sick of the supporting cast argument. Let's look at dak in college shall we? He won how many games and set records with NOBODIES in one of if not the hardest divisions in college ball to my knowledge. And we are talking about supporting casts? Get out of here with this nonsense.

Which breakdown of Wentz?

Jeff McLane?
 

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Put my spin on it?

Some aren't capable of objectivity when it goes against what they want to believe. Most of them post here.
You sound like you are speaking of yourself if you really post that McKelvin should have made that interception yet fail to mention Scandrick having one bounce off his chest.

McKelvins attempted INT was not something that anyone can objectively say he should have caught. In baseball that would never be ruled an error.
 

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It's meaningless arguing with Romo lovers. All they care about is Tony Romo. They're willing to fight for Wentz over Dak, because it's Dak over Romo right now. I feel so bad for these people. what a miserable life to live to be a Dallas Cowboys fan, 6-1, and yet they're unhappy.
 

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I honestly expect Romo lovers to whittle off and curl up in a corner and sing kum baya once Romo retires. So sad.
 

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It's meaningless arguing with Romo lovers. All they care about is Tony Romo. They're willing to fight for Wentz over Dak, because it's Dak over Romo right now. I feel so bad for these people. what a miserable life to live to be a Dallas Cowboys fan, 6-1, and yet they're unhappy.
What I've gathered is most Cowboys fans jump the gun and just need to complain. It's actually sad that most can't enjoy that we are on a 6 game in streak going into Cleveland to hopefully leave at 7-1.
 

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It's meaningless arguing with Romo lovers. All they care about is Tony Romo. They're willing to fight for Wentz over Dak, because it's Dak over Romo right now. I feel so bad for these people. what a miserable life to live to be a Dallas Cowboys fan, 6-1, and yet they're unhappy.

Not fair to all of us Romo lovers. I love Romo and I think if he was 100% he very well could elevate this offense and that is not a knock on Dak. Now reality Romo is not ready, maybe he will be down the road maybe not. I do think the job Dak is doing deserves praise and if Dallas goes the distance with Dak then I still like our chances.
 
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