Wentz is better than Dak in some things at this point

Doomsday101

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Save the ad hominem garbage.

Dak is the reason we were down 10 in the first place. If it wasn't for a fumble and fake punt, we lose that game. Dak didn't even play well in the 4th quarter. He had 2x 3-and-outs, nearly threw a pick and missed a few easy tosses, including a wide open TD.

On the game, Dak was a net negative. Wentz didn't play great either, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. The fact that we are trying to use this game to justify Dak being a better player than Wentz is laughable.

what is laughable is watching you defend the loser of the game. The fact that Wentz when he faced crunch time he failed to get the job done. Philly had a chance to come back in the game and prevent it from going to overtime. You are right Dak did not play well for the most part but in crunch time instead of hanging his head he came out and produced some big plays to get it tied including overcoming a 1st and 20 from his own 12 yard line and then to win in overtime.
 

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Save the ad hominem garbage.

Dak is the reason we were down 10 in the first place. If it wasn't for a fumble and fake punt, we lose that game. Dak didn't even play well in the 4th quarter. He had 2x 3-and-outs, nearly threw a pick and missed a few easy tosses, including a wide open TD.

On the game, Dak was a net negative. Wentz didn't play great either, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. The fact that we are trying to use this game to justify Dak being a better player than Wentz is laughable.
What's laughable is that you are pretending that other people are saying Dak has played better than Wentz for ONLY this game.
While he did play better this past game (obviously). The point people are making is that Dak has outplayed Wentz all year. Not meaning every week but all games collectively.

Now save the excuses of why Dak has outplayed Wentz this year because that's already been covered.
 

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Save the ad hominem garbage.

Dak is the reason we were down 10 in the first place. If it wasn't for a fumble and fake punt, we lose that game. Dak didn't even play well in the 4th quarter. He had 2x 3-and-outs, nearly threw a pick and missed a few easy tosses, including a wide open TD.

On the game, Dak was a net negative. Wentz didn't play great either, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. The fact that we are trying to use this game to justify Dak being a better player than Wentz is laughable.
Dak is a better player because of this. 6-1 vs 4-3. Call it what you want, 6-1 is ALWAYS better. Not for you though.
 

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Because there isn't a massive talent advantage. Dak has a better oline, Wentz has a vastly better defense. In terms of weapons, they're about equal.


Are you seriously comparing the weapons on offense in Philly to Dallas?

What RB in Philly is even remotely close to Zeke?

What WR in Philly is even as good as Williams, let alone Dez?

And Philly does not now, nor have they ever, had a TE as good as Jason Witten.

So how are they about equal in terms of weapons?
 

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what is laughable is watching you defend the loser of the game. The fact that Wentz when he faced crunch time he failed to get the job done. Philly had a chance to come back in the game and prevent it from going to overtime. You are right Dak did not play well for the most part but in crunch time instead of hanging his head he came out and produced some big plays to get it tied including overcoming a 1st and 20 from his own 12 yard line and then to win in overtime.

It was crunch time when Dak went 3-and-out three times in the 4th quarter because of his sloppy footwork. It was crunch time when he missed Dez for a wide open TD. Using this game to suggest Dak is better than Wentz is silly.
 

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Dak is a better player because of this. 6-1 vs 4-3. Call it what you want, 6-1 is ALWAYS better. Not for you though.

The cognitive abilities of this place...

Is every player on our roster better than every player on their roster? All our players are 6-1 and theirs are 4-3 right? Or does it only count for the QB? And in that case, is Dak the 2nd best QB in the league?
 

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Are you seriously comparing the weapons on offense in Philly to Dallas?

What RB in Philly is even remotely close to Zeke?

What WR in Philly is even as good as Williams, let alone Dez?

And Philly does not now, nor have they ever, had a TE as good as Jason Witten.

So how are they about equal in terms of weapons?

In this game Sproles 15 carries for 86 yards rushing was nothing to sneeze at. As mentioned before when did Dallas get these weapons because for as long as I have been coming here many would have cut or traded many of these same people you are celebrating today. lol

Since Dak does not play vs the Philly offense, face it 2 QB actually never play one another they play the opposing defense, which one of these QB played a top 10 defense 8 to be exact and which one played the poorer defense?
 

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Are you seriously comparing the weapons on offense in Philly to Dallas?

What RB in Philly is even remotely close to Zeke?

What WR in Philly is even as good as Williams, let alone Dez?

And Philly does not now, nor have they ever, had a TE as good as Jason Witten.

So how are they about equal in terms of weapons?
There's a guy named Sproles and they have a top defense. You do know that when you have a top defense, you can take less risks. We don't have that luxury.
 

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In this game Sproles 15 carries for 86 yards rushing was nothing to sneeze at. As mentioned before when did Dallas get these weapons because for as long as I have been coming here many would have cut or traded many of these same people you are celebrating today. lol

Since Dak does not play vs the Philly offense, face it 2 QB actually never play one another they play the opposing defense, which one of these QB played a top 10 defense 8 to be exact and which one played the poorer defense?

Take the QBs off the rosters and the Cowboys are the better team. The offense is FAR superior and the defense has been above average this year.
 

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The cognitive abilities of this place...

Is every player on our roster better than every player on their roster? All our players are 6-1 and theirs are 4-3 right? Or does it only count for the QB? And in that case, is Dak the 2nd best QB in the league?
Based on record, he is NOW. You think numbers make a QB don't you? You think like a Cleveland Browns fan. Aikman never had superior numbers, but he have 3 things you like.
 

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It was crunch time when Dak went 3-and-out three times in the 4th quarter because of his sloppy footwork. It was crunch time when he missed Dez for a wide open TD. Using this game to suggest Dak is better than Wentz is silly.

Really because it seems to be when down by 10 he drove the field and tied it and once in OT he helped win it. Sloppy footwork right coach, I'm sure you know all there is to know about playing QB. LOL Try making throws stepping into the throw with a 300 pounder coming down on you. Fact is a lot of QB at times will be forced to throw off balance or off their back foot.

Oh yes lets not use this game. LOL Talk about laughable your arguments clearly are.
 

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Chris Collinsworth even said right now Dak is better at going through his progressions and that the Eagles should go no huddle a lot more so Wentz doesn't have to think as much. People are just enamored with Wentz because he's that "perfect prototype" pocket passer. We are truly blessed to have gotten Dakfor our future QB and face of this franchise.
 

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There's a guy named Sproles and they have a top defense. You do know that when you have a top defense, you can take less risks. We don't have that luxury.

Philly gives up 0.9 fewer points per game than us. They're #4 in the league and we're #7.
 

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Take the QBs off the rosters and the Cowboys are the better team. The offense is FAR superior and the defense has been above average this year.
You take the QBs off the team, they have the same record. Sorry your head is so far up Wentz's you know what, it's hard to see clearly.
 

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I'm interested in Super Bowls, in which we've not seen in 20 years. What are your interests?


You're only interested in Superbowls if the starting QB is the guy you want. Don't play like you haven't wished from the beginning that someone would take Romo's place.

Lucky for us Dak has come along and given them a viable option for life after Romo. That's good for the Cowboys, and their fans in general.

It's great for you because you've hated Romo all along and the thing that most important to you is being able to beat your internet puffed out chest about being right that Tony Romo couldn't win a Superbowl.

Anything else you claim should be ignored because you showed your agenda loud and clear years ago.
 

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Philly gives up 0.9 fewer points per game than us. They're #4 in the league and we're #7.
What they do on offense is totally different. Wentz is asked to make the safe 2 yard pass, Dak is asked to go down the field. Does that not count?
 

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Take the QBs off the rosters and the Cowboys are the better team. The offense is FAR superior and the defense has been above average this year.

it is still an avg defense who gets little pressure while Philly defense is 3rd in the NFL at sacking the QB. Fact is Wentz faced a lesser defense than what Dak was facing and that is fact.
 

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Really because it seems to be when down by 10 he drove the field and tied it and once in OT he helped win it. Sloppy footwork right coach, I'm sure you know all there is to know about playing QB. LOL Try making throws stepping into the throw with a 300 pounder coming down on you. Fact is a lot of QB at times will be forced to throw off balance or off their back foot.

Oh yes lets not use this game. LOL Talk about laughable your arguments clearly are.

I need a translator, please.
 

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Anything else you claim should be ignored because you showed your agenda loud and clear years ago.
My agenda is, I don't want Qbs on this roster that isn't build for Super Bowls. Is that okay with you, or do you want a career full of empty endings?
 

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I need a translator, please.

Translation foot work is not always perfect, not even Romo hell not even Brady. These QB often times are forced to throw off balance or off the back foot as defenders are in their face. this is not madden or some other video game.
 
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