Wentz won't be there

[jnday]

I'm a fan of Wentz...like Goff as well. But I do have some reservations regarding both (like most any prospect really). That said, it wouldn't stop me from taking either if the team feels they're the long-term future of the franchise. Will delve into Wentz here given the thread.

- Wentz was 20-3 as a starter in 5 seasons at NDSU. He started the first 6 games prior to the wrist injury, losing 2 of them. The team went 8-0 with a redshirt freshman at QB in his absence in 2015.

- Prior to Wentz taking over, NDSU won 3 straight championships and complied a 43-2 record.

- Wentz averaged 194 yards passing per game as a Jr. & 206 passing yards per game as a Sr. He had (1) 300-yard passing game in his career at the FCS level. Part of that is that they seemingly prefer a balanced attack regardless of who is playing QB.

A comparison of the 2 QB's in 2015:

Carson Wentz: (7 games started), efficiency 152.3...completions (130) - attempts (208) - Int's (4)...comp% 62.5...1651 yards...17 TD's...Avg/G 206.4
Easton Stick: (8 games started), efficiency 150.3...completions (90) - attempts (147) - Int's (4)...comp% 61.2...1144 yards...13 TD's...Avg/G 104.0

Wentz rushing (7 games): 294 yards (4.7 ypc) & 6 TD's
Stick rushing (8 games): 498 yards (5.9 ypc) & 5 TD's

I'm not much into scripted pro days in T-shirts & shorts. I recall Kyle Boller impressing the Ravens by throwing a ball 50 yards from his knees. Countless prospects have missed just a couple of throws in their workouts, etc. Some acutually debated Manning & Leaf. By most accounts Bridgewater had a bad pro day...while Manziel & RGIII looked great. And so on.

What does impress me about Wentz is obviously his size, arm, & athleticism. His ability to retain & process information is also among his more impressive traits IMO...and a critical one. Thought his overall performance in the championship game after returning from injury was very good.
Also thought he handled the step up in competition pretty well at the Senior Bowl.

Wentz has a winning mentality. That goes a long way with me. Risen says ha can walk on water and heal just be touching the sick. That is an added bonus too.

 

[Eddie]

Wentz will fall to us at 4. Jerry would prove to the world that he's an utter fool by taking a flier.

 

[egn22]

a little reach there
He is the best QB in the draft according to most experts
He is somewhat physically similar to luck
Don't think anyone said he is as athletic as Newton but he is very athletic and a good runner
Everyone has good pro days and that's a very small part of the evaluation
Don't think he is nfl ready myself but don't think most qb's are
He can make all the throws
The offense is not hard to pick up, reading defenses is what's hard to pick up but that's why you develope them before you start them
Finally is he worth the trade up? I would hate to give up two first rnd picks on a team that needs so much. But at the same time the price is likely going to be much higher when tony does hang it up unless we have a one or two win season and if you wait till you need a QB then your forced to let him learn on the field which to me is the mistake many teams make with qb's
Trading romo is not a real option
I don't want to give up picks but at the same time the price may never be cheaper considering where we are starting from

 

[bodi]

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[CCBoy]

That is no money for the futur QB of the team.

It is when that is the amount for a 'future' QB is drafted in the 4th slot and on his 'rook' contract. That amount is what is currently being paid for Morris, Dunbar, and McFadden as a complete group. Add in Romo at $19+ Million; and Moore at over $1 million...heck, just as a rough figure, the QB's cost the total cap at a figure then, of over $25 million a season. Pretty stiff?

 

[bodi]

well I threw wasting my breath on how good Wentz would be here

IMO you go get him

 

[jnday]

It is when that is the amount for a 'future' QB is drafted in the 4th slot and on his 'rook' contract. That amount is what is currently being paid for Morris, Dunbar, and McFadden as a complete group. Add in Romo at $19+ Million; and Moore at over $1 million...heck, just as a rough figure, the QB's cost the total cap at a figure then, of over $25 million a season. Pretty stiff?

If that your problem with taking a QB at 4? Roger and Troy would have been worth the extra invesrmtent . Us the team feels like it , a QB will be worth it now. Romo will not be playing for much longer anyway .?you can quit using him as s factor in this decision. Add the fact that there are QBs that are getting 20 million a year, it is not out of line.

 

[CCBoy]

If that your problem with taking a QB at 4? Roger and Troy would have been worth the extra invesrmtent . Us the team feels like it , a QB will be worth it now. Romo will not be playing for much longer anyway .?you can quit using him as s factor in this decision. Add the fact that there are QBs that are getting 20 million a year, it is not out of line.

First off, I don't and didn't have a problem with the drafting of a top slot quarterback from the start...but one doesn't also have to stick his head in the sand about other issues that are real as well. Retain a solid offensive line that has contracts coming up in the next three seasons...while paying out well over $25 million a season for quarterbackS, IS RELEVANT.

 

[bodi]

one more thing http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Jason...th-Carson-Wentz-QB-shines-at-pro-day-44456097

Jason Garrett impressed with Carson Wentz, QB shines at pro day

The head coach isn't willing to write off any position with the fourth selection which of course means Wentz is a possibility. And Garrett's been impressed with talented quarterback throughout the entire pre-draft process.

“He responded very well,” Garrett told PFT Live at the league meetings in regards to how Wentz has responded to the draft preparations over the last few months. “When he went against the guys at the Senior Bowl, I thought he fit in really well.

“He’s a small school guy but he’s a very impressive guy as an individual, just the way he carries himself, his leadership. He’s very impressive physically. He’s a big kid, athletic and he can throw the football. It was a good week for us to get to know him.”

On Thursday, Wentz had another opportunity to showcase his talents at his pro day in North Dakota, and the quarterback shined. Wentz drew a plethora of compliments from scouts and analysts across the league. Check out some of the impressions below:

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Both qbs gone by 4. The board is Tunsil, ramsey, trade down

Both QBs are there. Trade down is the thought or .... just sign Hardy and select Elliot@4.






Then you Trade up for ....

 

[bodi]

CBSSports.com’s Will Brinson

Date of Mock: March 23
Pick: North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz
Comment: “Would Dallas be willing to sacrifice a potential impact player for 2016 in order to secure the future? Tony Romo isn't going to play forever

 

[conner01]

I was talking about people here. I don't think he is as athletic as Newton who is a tremendous athlete, but Wentz is very athletic for a QB. Newton is a freak of nature. Big, strong and fast

 

[Kalyan]

Everyone is assuming that Browns take Wentz, when it is clear that Wentz needs 2-3 years of sitting on the bench and learning NFL offense.
If it is the browns, one bad game by the starter, the fans will be asking Wentz to start and it will be like all other QBs they ruined in the last 10 years.
If they think they have to start the rookie, Golf would be better option for them

 

[jnday]

First off, I don't and didn't have a problem with the drafting of a top slot quarterback from the start...but one doesn't also have to stick his head in the sand about other issues that are real as well. Retain a solid offensive line that has contracts coming up in the next three seasons...while paying out well over $25 million a season for quarterbackS, IS RELEVANT.

Any player drafted with the 4th pick is gonna cost. The QB for the next decade is worth every penny . These lineman are useless without a QB to block for.

 

[CCBoy]

Any player drafted with the 4th pick is gonna cost. The QB for the next decade is worth every penny . These lineman are useless without a QB to block for.

Leadership is where it occurs...and that is team direction. On a Chicago Bears team, Sweetness was the center of tough and team focus of the team.But if the conflict isn't won up front, it isn't won.

Happy Easter, Sir...

 

[jnday]

Leadership is where it occurs...and that is team direction. On a Chicago Bears team, Sweetness was the center of tough and team focus of the team.But if the conflict isn't won up front, it isn't won.

Happy Easter, Sir...

Happy Easter to you as well.

 

[vicjagger]

Let's race, I'll look for the last quarterback from a North Dakota community college with barely 600 attempts that turned out to be a franchise QB, and whoever finds the answer first wins...

Lol. "community college". Good luck. I'll just

 

[Fredd]

I can see Ramsey and Wentz gone by the 4th pick...will be interesting to see if anyone jumps ahead of dallas to try to grab a QB

 

[mattjames2010]

Good.

 

[DeaconMoss]

I can see Ramsey and Wentz gone by the 4th pick...will be interesting to see if anyone jumps ahead of dallas to try to grab a QB

Cleveland takes one and someone trades ahead of us for the other