Werder on 103.3 today - 01/06/09

[Chocolate Lab]

It was different than the typical Wade is an idiot and TO is the devil yuk yuk yuk, so I thought I'd post a few of his points.

Asks what happened to the Tony Romo who was so devastated at dropping the snap vs. Seattle when he was disconsolate for so long. Says maybe Tony's "so what" attitude in the PC after the game was a defense mechanism, but he needs to realize that perception does matter to people and he shouldn't come off as not caring like he did.

Says (amazingly) that Garrett and Wilson and Phillips aren't to blame for Tony's turnovers, because he knows for a fact that the coaches stressed to him before the Steelers and Ravens games that these teams feasted on turnovers and he should protect the ball and give his defense a chance. But Tony threw early INTs anyway. Wonders if this will always be a problem or if this was just a bad year.

Says he's not sure Jerry wants Garrett here like he did. Says he's asked the question around Valley Ranch about what happens if Garrett gets a great HC offer, and he doesn't get the sense this year that Jerry feels about JG like he did last year. Thinks Jerry would be okay with getting out of that contract.

Thinks Shanahan won't come here this year because it would require a total retooling of the offense in a short time. Plus, Shanahan doesn't seem to be in a big hurry to get back into coaching right away. But believes that if Garrett and his salary left, he could get Shanny next year and it wouldn't cost him that much.

 

[Stash]

I think the deal with Romo turning the ball over might be an example of a bigger problem.

What happens to Romo if he continues to turn the ball over?

Not much.

It's not like the team could even consider benching him.

And I think there are plenty of guys sitting in that same position.

"I screwed up? Yeah, so what."

"What are you gonna do about it?"

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you guys remember Inspector Gadget? remember the theme song? well I tweaked it a bit

Go Garret, Go, dududadudado, Go Garrett, GO

and you may be on to something stash, which is probably why Green Bay didn't do anything significant with Brett Favre after '97, until they completely rebuilt the roster in '07

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Not that I wqnt to spoil this Romo bashing session by Werder et. al but I want to say in Romo's defense that early in the season he was getting lots of protectiona and throwing the ball effectively and getting the defenses out of tight games.

After the pinkie injury he neither seemed the same nor did he get adequate protdction from defenders.

So through all of this Wade and Stew get a free pass?

Yeah, let's get rid of Romo and exhult that we have Wade and Stew. That makes sense to me!

 

[28 Joker]

Werder needs to go to Bill Parcells School for Offensive Football Game Mangement. Then, he needs to tell Jason Garrett to go, too.

It is the coaches job to help the quarterback manage the game. How do you do this, especially with a gunslinger like Tony Romo?

Hmm. Let's see.

1. You manage the game based on field position. Hey, Jason. That means don't put your quarterback in risky positions by calling vertical pass plays when backed up in your own territory. That could mean calling safer plays in the passing game or simple run it and punt it.

(ie. Don't call deep fade routes in the wind while deep at your own end, Don't call pass plays when backed up inside your own 5 yard line, especially when you have seen the heat the quarterback is under, ect... Use your running game or screens or shorter throws. Give yourself some room before you allow Romo to launch missles or throw down the field, especially against top defenses or in tight defensive games. You need to have "the feel" of the game and manage it. That is instinctive.

2. Tony Romo needs structure and discipline built into the offensive system. He needs parameters set for him in regards to his risk taking, not a leash, but parameters. He needs a quarterbacks coach who will not allow him to be sloppy with his fundamentals. Romo has less than 3 years of real time experience.

How do you get structure and discipline in the offense. Hmm. You don't run a Tecmo Bowl offense where you live and die by the bomb or plays over 20 yards. This wasn't Norv Turner's offense. This wasn't even the offense I saw last year. There are plenty of other intermediate and short pass patterns you can run. There are even routes designed to get the ball out faster when facing severe heat. Plus, getting the ball out of the quarterbacks hand faster, instead of looking for the kill shot too much, actually allows you to move the ball and protect your quarterback.

Which leads me to number 3. Playcalling

3. You can protect Tony Romo with your playcalling and run game. That wasn't Tony Romo torching the Giants on third down in the playoff game last year after heavy runs were called and executed, was it? Why are we throwing the ball 45 times against the Ravens? Your passing game has to be more efficient. Tony Romo is a very efficient passer. Romo missed two deep throws, and both could have been TDs. However, when you live by the bomb, you die by the bomb. Giving him higher percentage throws or routes and allowing him to work the ball down the field, patiently, would allow you to over come the over throws in that game.


We need to cut Romo a little slack with his comments after the game. He is under enormous pressure, and he was managed very, very poorly in some of the critical losses.

It is the offensive coordinator's job to help the quarterback manage the game. He has to set parameters for the quarterback and protect the quarterback through his play calling and game plans and in game adjustments. Garrett was inconsistent in doing this. It cost the Cowboys.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Werder needs to go to Bill Parcells School for Offensive Football Game Mangement. Then, he needs to tell Jason Garrett to go, too.

It is the coaches job to help the quarterback manage the game. How do you do this, especially with a gunslinger like Tony Romo?

Hmm. Let's see.

1. You manage the game based on field position. Hey, Jason. That means don't put your quarterback in risky positions by calling vertical pass plays when backed up in your own territory. That could mean calling safer plays in the passing game or simple run it and punt it.

(ie. Don't call deep fade routes in the wind while deep at your own end, Don't call pass plays when backed up inside your own 5 yard line, especially when you have seen the heat the quarterback is under, ect... Use your running game or screens or shorter throws. Give yourself some room before you allow Romo to launch missles or throw down the field, especially against top defenses or in tight defensive games. You have to have "the feel" of the game and manage it. That is instinctive.

2. Tony Romo needs structure and discipline built into the offensive system. He needs parameters set for him in regards to his risk taking, not a leash, but parameters. He needs a quarterbacks coach who will not allow him to be sloppy with his fundamentals. Romo has less than 3 years of real time experience.

How do you get structure and discipline in the offense. Hmm. You don't run a Tecmo Bowl offense where you live and die by the bomb or plays over 20 yards. This wasn't Norv Turner's offense. This wasn't even the offense I saw last year. There are plenty of other intermediate and short pass patterns you can run. There are even routes designed to get the ball out faster when facing severe heat. Plus, getting the ball out of the quarterbacks hand faster, instead of looking for the kill shot too much, actually allows you to move the ball and protect your quarterback.

Which leads me to number 3. Playcalling

3. You can protect Tony Romo with your playcalling and run game. That wasn't Tony Romo torching the Giants on third down in the playoff game last year after heavy runs were called and executed, was it? Why are we throwing the ball 45 times against the Ravens? Your passing game has to be more efficient. Tony Romo is a very efficient passer. Romo missed two deep throws, and both could have been TDs. However, when you live by the bomb, you die by the bomb. Giving him higher percentage throws or routes and allowing him to work the ball down the field, patiently, would allow you to over come the over throws in that game.


We need to cut Romo a little slack with his comments after the game. He is under enormous pressure, and he was managed very, very poorly in some of the critical losses.

It is the offensive coordinator's job to help the quarterback manage the game. He has to set parameters for the quarterback and protect the quarterback through his play calling and game plans and in game adjustments. Garrett was inconsistent in doing this. It cost the Cowboys.

Bravo, wonderful post! Right on the mark!

 

[skicat1898]

All the game management, parameter setting and adjustments don't mean crap if your QB throws a INT or fumbles the ball.....

There is enough blame to go around, QB, WRs, OL, and OC...

To me it all ends with the HC and practice habits,,, this team played the way it practiced,, end of story.

 

[theogt]

Yeah, I can't imagine he'd want to honor Garrett's contract at all. Talk about a waste of money.

 

[28 Joker]

Bravo, wonderful post! Right on the mark!

I'm sure some people are sick of hearing it, but Werder is just flat out wrong.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm sure some people are sick of hearing it, but Werder is just flat out wrong.

Honestly, Werder wasn't bashing him... More posing questions. That's why I even posted, because it was much better than his usual stupidity.

He even said at the end that maybe it was just a bad year for Tony.

I'm totally with you on running the ball more to protect Tony, but still, it's Tony's fault when he fumbles like Hutch or lobs the ball up into double coverage. He simply has to learn to throw the ball away when nothing is there.

 

[theogt]

Honestly, Werder wasn't bashing him... More posing questions. That's why I even posted, because it was much better than his usual stupidity.

He even said at the end that maybe it was just a bad year for Tony.

I'm totally with you on running the ball more to protect Tony, but still, it's Tony's fault when he fumbles like Hutch or lobs the ball up into double coverage. He simply has to learn to throw the ball away when nothing is there.

I think it's probably a better decision to just fix the O-line and not have guys coming free almost literally every single snap, than force Tony to be a game manager and not take risks.

But one thing's for sure, you can't have both a consistently terrible O-line and an injured Tony being careless.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

great post 41gy#

I read your posts too

 

[CATCH17]

We are screwed next year.

 

[28 Joker]

Honestly, Werder wasn't bashing him... More posing questions. That's why I even posted, because it was much better than his usual stupidity.

He even said at the end that maybe it was just a bad year for Tony.

I'm totally with you on running the ball more to protect Tony, but still, it's Tony's fault when he fumbles like Hutch or lobs the ball up into double coverage. He simply has to learn to throw the ball away when nothing is there.

I do understand that Romo has some blame. Not taking the first down against the Ravens and launching a bomb to no receiver wasn't a sound, fundamental play. That killed a great drive.

However, there is absolutely no excuse for even calling a pass play against the Giants while you are backed up inside your own 5 yard line, no excuse. The defense had the game in hand (14-3). The protection was very leaky. Romo had been getting hit. The last thing you want is the ball on the ground in the endzone, and that is exactly what happened on that third down pass play. I don't care about the snap screw up. Why are you taking the risk when your defense has dominated the game? Plus, Garrett didn't learn his lesson against the Eagles and Cardinals. If you want to limit Romo's turnovers, in my opinion, you better do the things I'm calling for. It's sound, fundamental offensive football.

Risk.

That is part of the problem here. Romo likes to gamble, and Garrett is a down the field, riverboat gambler, go for the bomb play caller.

I think Tony Romo would do much better with a guy like Mike Shannahan. Shannahan would give him all the things I'm calling for. A guy like Al Saunders would be a good fit, too. He coached with Joe Gibbs on Don Coryel's staff in San Diego.

 

[28 Joker]

I think it's probably a better decision to just fix the O-line and not have guys coming free almost literally every single snap, than force Tony to be a game manager and not take risks.

But one thing's for sure, you can't have both a consistently terrible O-line and an injured Tony being careless.

I don't want Romo being put on a leash. I don't want him to be a bus driver. He is way too talented for that. I just want an offensive coordinator and a staff to give this guy some structure and parameters and give him a consistent running game. That will increase his chances for success. Romo can still take some risks for sure. Parcells talked about Romo's need for discipline. This discipline can be infused into Romo by building it into the offense.

LG hurt Dallas for sure. However, throwing 45 times against the Ravens was because of two things.

1. Passing Inefficiency

2. Being Behind in the Second Half

Throwing the ball 45 times against the Ravens would break down most offensive lines. I think Romo is correct when he says the protection schemes were exposed in the Eagles game, too.

When the other teams are running your routes for you, mostly deep routes on the outside, you have strategic issues on offense.

 

[28 Joker]

great post 41gy#

I read your posts too

Thanks, Bob. I'm sure I have plenty of people who don't like me, but they can post their opinions, too.

Terrell Owens is no Micheal Irvin.

 

[Frozen700]

i may be in the minority.....but i actually like Romo's I Don't Care attitude.....

I 4 1 don't think he literally doesn't care...hes just sick of the Media..the bashing, and expectations of the fans...so he acts like whatever to piss everyone off....and not give the media a chance to bash him n poke fun at the fact hes down n out

When you basically say hey whatever, there not many deep questions the media can ask....and maybe it really isnt getting to him

lol id be the same way....."yea whatever, **** happens"

 

[Beast_from_East]

Werder needs to go to Bill Parcells School for Offensive Football Game Mangement. Then, he needs to tell Jason Garrett to go, too.

It is the coaches job to help the quarterback manage the game. How do you do this, especially with a gunslinger like Tony Romo?

Hmm. Let's see.

1. You manage the game based on field position. Hey, Jason. That means don't put your quarterback in risky positions by calling vertical pass plays when backed up in your own territory. That could mean calling safer plays in the passing game or simple run it and punt it.

(ie. Don't call deep fade routes in the wind while deep at your own end, Don't call pass plays when backed up inside your own 5 yard line, especially when you have seen the heat the quarterback is under, ect... Use your running game or screens or shorter throws. Give yourself some room before you allow Romo to launch missles or throw down the field, especially against top defenses or in tight defensive games. You need to have "the feel" of the game and manage it. That is instinctive.

2. Tony Romo needs structure and discipline built into the offensive system. He needs parameters set for him in regards to his risk taking, not a leash, but parameters. He needs a quarterbacks coach who will not allow him to be sloppy with his fundamentals. Romo has less than 3 years of real time experience.

How do you get structure and discipline in the offense. Hmm. You don't run a Tecmo Bowl offense where you live and die by the bomb or plays over 20 yards. This wasn't Norv Turner's offense. This wasn't even the offense I saw last year. There are plenty of other intermediate and short pass patterns you can run. There are even routes designed to get the ball out faster when facing severe heat. Plus, getting the ball out of the quarterbacks hand faster, instead of looking for the kill shot too much, actually allows you to move the ball and protect your quarterback.

Which leads me to number 3. Playcalling

3. You can protect Tony Romo with your playcalling and run game. That wasn't Tony Romo torching the Giants on third down in the playoff game last year after heavy runs were called and executed, was it? Why are we throwing the ball 45 times against the Ravens? Your passing game has to be more efficient. Tony Romo is a very efficient passer. Romo missed two deep throws, and both could have been TDs. However, when you live by the bomb, you die by the bomb. Giving him higher percentage throws or routes and allowing him to work the ball down the field, patiently, would allow you to over come the over throws in that game.


We need to cut Romo a little slack with his comments after the game. He is under enormous pressure, and he was managed very, very poorly in some of the critical losses.

It is the offensive coordinator's job to help the quarterback manage the game. He has to set parameters for the quarterback and protect the quarterback through his play calling and game plans and in game adjustments. Garrett was inconsistent in doing this. It cost the Cowboys.

 

[28 Joker]

I thought it was interesting that Werder was very confident that the coaches instructed Romo on the turnovers.

I don't have any proof, just what I can infer. However, if there isn't a coach on this team talking to Werder, I would be surprised. It could have been a player.

I will say it again, look to the low achieving players or players who have complained or griped or who are or have been disgruntled, and you will find a mole or two.

That is why gutting the bottom of the roster is critical.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I thought it was interesting that Werder was very confident that the coaches instructed Romo on the turnovers.

I don't have any proof, just what I can infer. However, if there isn't a coach on this team talking to Werder, I would be surprised. It could have been a player.

I will say it again, look to the low achieving players or players who have complained or griped or who are or have been disgruntled, and you will find a mole or two.

That is why gutting the bottom of the roster is critical.

Yea, I agree that the mole is probably a bottom feeder (like Barbie) or a position coach. (Like Todd Haley leaking info on TO to the media).