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Beast_from_East;2559488 said:
How the hell are you going to "open up the job in camp" when Romo's contract is larger than than the GDP of a small 3rd world country???

You going to let a mid-round rookie or a retread vet compete with Romo for the starting job......seriously???

So what you going to do with Romo then? You cant release him or trade him without a massive cap hit, so that wont work.

You going to make him a backup making that type of coin? How the hell is that going to fix team chemistry when the backup QB is in the top 5 paid guys in the entire freaking league and a huge chunk of that contract is guaranteed???

There are consequences to giving players more money than is in Fort Knoxx. One of the biggest problems is they play no matter what. When you are making that type of coin, you cant be released, you cant be traded, and you cant be made a backup, especially if a large chunk of that small fortune you have is guaranteed by the team.

We are stuck with Romo whether we like it or not. He is going to be the starting QB for at least the next 3 seasons before any releastic talk of release, trade, or backup............Its just caponomics 101.

Wait. We're stuck with a probowl QB who'd start on at least 25 other teams in the league? This needs to be protested with a new billboard.
 

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Idgit;2559493 said:
Wait. We're stuck with a probowl QB who'd start on at least 25 other teams in the league? This needs to be protested with a new billboard.

Dont get me wrong, I think Romo is one of the best QBs in the entire NFL.

I was responding to the poster who said that we needed to have an "open competition" in camp for the starting QB job.

I was simply stating that is not going to happen because Romo makes a zillion dollars and a huge chunk of that is guaranteed.

What type of team chemistry would that create if we drafted a QB and named him the starter when Romo makes more more in 1 season than what the entire value of the rookie's multi-year contract is worth.

Plus I dont think our probowl TE would be to happy about his BFF being benched.

It would just create in-fighting and players picking sides and some players maybe not "going all out" for the new QB if they are best buds with Romo.

You guys calling for open competition starting to see the problems that would create???
 

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Apollo Creed;2559156 said:
If we're gonna win number 6, Felix Jones/Taschard Choice/Marion Barber will have to be three very tired men by the end of the season.

Tony isn't built to drop back 40 times a game, and neither is our offensive line.


We have a winner!!!
 

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Beast_from_East;2559488 said:
How the hell are you going to "open up the job in camp" when Romo's contract is larger than than the GDP of a small 3rd world country???

You going to let a mid-round rookie or a retread vet compete with Romo for the starting job......seriously???

So what you going to do with Romo then? You cant release him or trade him without a massive cap hit, so that wont work.

You going to make him a backup making that type of coin? How the hell is that going to fix team chemistry when the backup QB is in the top 5 paid guys in the entire freaking league and a huge chunk of that contract is guaranteed???

There are consequences to giving players more money than is in Fort Knoxx. One of the biggest problems is they play no matter what. When you are making that type of coin, you cant be released, you cant be traded, and you cant be made a backup, especially if a large chunk of that small fortune you have is guaranteed by the team.

We are stuck with Romo whether we like it or not. He is going to be the starting QB for at least the next 3 seasons before any releastic talk of release, trade, or backup............Its just caponomics 101.


I understand what you're saying, but let me tell you something: If the Dallas Cowboys are going to let salaries dictate who starts and who doesn't, instead of ability, the Dallas Cowboys are going to turn into the Oakland Raiders. No ifs or buts about it.

Perhaps you're exactly right in that what you're saying is already their philosophy and if that's the case, Jerrah might as well stick with Pillsbury Dough Wade for the next 8 years because no coach is going to make a difference.
 

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dcfanatic;2559204 said:
All of this makes perfect sense.

But when was this ever the Cowboys offense over the last two seasons?

We have never been a consistent offense and I hate it.

The offensive line was giving Romo all sorts of time to sit back and let the deep routes develop in the past so he got comfortable with that aspect of the offense.

This season he was a gunslinger who was constantly trying to hit the big one because it's what he knew. Like you said he's only two years into being the starting QB. In time he needs to understand just like Garrett, that at times you have to grind out a win with the offense.

But back to the consisteny issue. We stunk against the Ravens for three quarters on offense and then in the 4th it was all working to plan.

So then this entire offense once again falls back into that 'we are a big play offense that no one can stop when we are on' mode.

That's actually a bad thing because this offense has a nickname and it's 'Sybil'. They have multiple personalities from week to week.

In 2009 they need to find one identity and stick with it. That identity is to be a consistent unit that will not make stupid mistakes and can go on a 10 play drive and not be mad about taking that many plays to put points on the board.

Simplify the game plans and simplify the play calling as well. Every receiver doesn't need an 'option' on their route and Romo doesn't need 3 plays going thru his mind when he steps to the LOS. We are all tired of Romo calling out 'kill, kill, kill' 3 out of every 5 times he gets under Center.

On both sides of the ball the 'cuteness' needs to go. Wade and his 132 defensive packages aren't needed either. We saw the defensive secondary confused on many occasions too. We even saw them with a few 12 men in the huddle penalties which is not acceptable more than 1 time a season.

In essence the Dallas Cowboys need to back to being football players and leave the 'rocket science stuff' to actual rocket scientists.


:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

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So now the plan is to waste a year with a lame duck coach to avoid making offensive changes. Then, hire a guy we could have right now and waste another year or two in rebuilding the offense to fit his style.

Glad to see you haven't lost it Jerry.

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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Randy White;2559510 said:
I understand what you're saying, but let me tell you something: If the Dallas Cowboys are going to let salaries dictate who starts and who doesn't, instead of ability, the Dallas Cowboys are going to turn into the Oakland Raiders. No ifs or buts about it.

Perhaps you're exactly right in that what you're saying is already their philosophy and if that's the case, Jerrah might as well stick with Pillsbury Dough Wade for the next 8 years because no coach is going to make a difference.

Look there isn't a QB in the league who has put up the stats Tony has and been to two Pro Bowls in 3 seasons who has to worry about job security.

Heck, it took us how long to find him? You think an adequate replacement/competition is one FA or mid level draft pick away?

The problem is health and coaching. Tony will always be Favre-lite, but he was much better under Parcells and even last year.

The whole team's practice habits have gone down the drain, he has a head coach with no accountability at all and WRs who are complaining about getting the ball to them to the media and not only is no one shutting them up, they are catering to them. Until someone reigns this circus in, all the competition in the world isn't going to do squat.

Werder said Wade "stressed" ball control with Tony before the Pitt and Balt games. Can you imagine that conversation?

Wade: "Hey, ah, Tony, you now if its not too much trouble, and I'm just asking here so don't think your under pressure to say yes or anything... but if you could, you know, maybe throw the ball away if....

Tony: "Yeah, yeah sure coach whatever. Look can we talk about it later, I got Jessica texting me about the time share she's hooking up in Cozumel and I need to get the band set up for TO's monthly birthday party tonight. Cool?

Wade: "Ok Tony, just make sure we talk before the game, this is like, important, OK?'

Tony: "What game?"
 

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Beast_from_East;2559497 said:
Dont get me wrong, I think Romo is one of the best QBs in the entire NFL.

I was responding to the poster who said that we needed to have an "open competition" in camp for the starting QB job.

I was simply stating that is not going to happen because Romo makes a zillion dollars and a huge chunk of that is guaranteed.

What type of team chemistry would that create if we drafted a QB and named him the starter when Romo makes more more in 1 season than what the entire value of the rookie's multi-year contract is worth.

Plus I dont think our probowl TE would be to happy about his BFF being benched.

It would just create in-fighting and players picking sides and some players maybe not "going all out" for the new QB if they are best buds with Romo.

You guys calling for open competition starting to see the problems that would create???

No, yeah. I got you. I quoted you for context, but you were clearly talking about why it wouldn't make sense to bring in competition for Tony Romo.

I just can't believe replacing Tony is a topic of serious conversation for anybody.
 

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CATCH17;2559087 said:
We are screwed next year.

This is what I have a problem with. We are all assuming that Jerry is sticking with Wade because he said he was and we can or will get Shanahan next year. That almost sounds like we are resigned to just play this year out, and really "fix" things the year after. Problem is TO is a year older a year from now as is MBIII and his punishing style, o line.....You win TODAY in the NFL as nothing is guaranteed from year to year. Maybe I am reading this wrong, but this next year sure does seem like a "throw away year" to me.
 

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wileedog;2559674 said:
Wade: "Hey, ah, Tony, you now if its not too much trouble, and I'm just asking here so don't think your under pressure to say yes or anything... but if you could, you know, maybe throw the ball away if....

Tony: "Yeah, yeah sure coach whatever. Look can we talk about it later, I got Jessica texting me about the time share she's hooking up in Cozumel and I need to get the band set up for TO's monthly birthday party tonight. Cool?

Wade: "Ok Tony, just make sure we talk before the game, this is like, important, OK?'

Tony: "What game?"


And then during the game:

Wade: Hey Tony... come on back to the sidelines... I think I wanna punt... it is 4th down ya know.

Tony: Have a doughnut Michelin Man.... I am gonna go for it.

Wade: .........................
 

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Idgit;2559724 said:
No, yeah. I got you. I quoted you for context, but you were clearly talking about why it wouldn't make sense to bring in competition for Tony Romo.

I just can't believe replacing Tony is a topic of serious conversation for anybody.

Imagine this can Tony start for New York? Eagles? Skins? You may allow one yes but that will still come with an asterisk. In the NFC east Tony could only start for 2 teams(boys, skins) that makes him the third best in the east. I am sure Washington might even make a case for the fourth best. Did you watch the games? I am a Cowboys homer but his play this year was less than average(I know he was injured), you cannot stand on your history in this league, he may have been the man last year but this year he was the free agent from Northern Ill. Look all we have for point of comparison is Brad Johnson, Bollinger, and Bledsoe. You cannot canonize this guy while comparing him to these gifted gentlemen. I have always thought he was at his best scrambling away from pressure making those DLinemen so tired they got cotton mouth. It has never been about his deadly accurate arm. He is good and better than we have had in oh so long and we are oh so desperate but be realistic everyone needs to be pushed even Demarcus, no one operates in a vacuum and gets any better. I believe it is not going to take a first or second round pick to get an adequate backup this year. Go Cowboys I will still be behind you whatever we get in the draft and whomever we have coaching.
 

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Macnalty;2559965 said:
Imagine this can Tony start for New York? Eagles? Skins? You may allow one yes but that will still come with an asterisk. In the NFC east Tony could only start for 2 teams(boys, skins) that makes him the third best in the east. I am sure Washington might even make a case for the fourth best. Did you watch the games? I am a Cowboys homer but his play this year was less than average(I know he was injured), you cannot stand on your history in this league, he may have been the man last year but this year he was the free agent from Northern Ill. Look all we have for point of comparison is Brad Johnson, Bollinger, and Bledsoe. You cannot canonize this guy while comparing him to these gifted gentlemen. I have always thought he was at his best scrambling away from pressure making those DLinemen so tired they got cotton mouth. It has never been about his deadly accurate arm. He is good and better than we have had in oh so long and we are oh so desperate but be realistic everyone needs to be pushed even Demarcus, no one operates in a vacuum and gets any better. I believe it is not going to take a first or second round pick to get an adequate backup this year. Go Cowboys I will still be behind you whatever we get in the draft and whomever we have coaching.

Less than average? What football league are you watching?

He threw for almost 3500 yards, 26 TD's and went 8-5 as the starter. That's way better than average.

He put up a QB rating of 100+ in seven of his 13 starts.

Did he have problems with turnovers? Yes.

Does he need to stop falling apart down the stretch? Yes.

Has he only been the starter for two full seasons? Yes.

Is he going to be the starter for the next three to five years? I think so and so should everyone else.
 

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dcfanatic;2560199 said:
Less than average? What football league are you watching?

He threw for almost 3500 yards, 26 TD's and went 8-5 as the starter. That's way better than average.

He put up a QB rating of 100+ in seven of his 13 starts.

Did he have problems with turnovers? Yes.

Does he need to stop falling apart down the stretch? Yes.

Has he only been the starter for two full seasons? Yes.

Is he going to be the starter for the next three to five years? I think so and so should everyone else.


Agreed! Some folks have no sense, suggesting Tony is an average QB.
 
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