Video: We've seen Romo deliver plenty of these type of games Dak just had, yet doesn't get the same grief?

[DFWJC]

Romo Stockholm syndrome. I have said it before and I must repeat it now. Too many fans are just soo in love with Romo, because even our expectations of a good QB have been tainted by our 22 years of mediocrity. I loved Romo and always defended him against all comers but enough is enough, he is gone and now we can really digest what the end result was.
Romo was statistically great and I think his greatness will only grow even from the analytics guys. He unfortunately did not come up by at the biggest moments, yes I know he had several 4th quarter comebacks, good TD to int ratio in those games, etc,etc. Statistics can be misleading at times...
But do you remember back in the 2008-2015 how many times we would have the playoffs on the line in December or even the last game of the year and we just couldn't make it over the hump. The playoff disappointments the elimination games... the ones below come to top of mind

2006 vs Seattle
2007 Vs Giants
2011 Week17 vs Giants
2012 Week 17 vs Skins
2008 Vs Eagles
2014 vs GB
2009 Vs Minnesota

2009 Wildcard Win vs Philly
2014 Wildcard win vs Detriot

If the ball bounces one way or another I know the result is different but that is football. It's the coaching, game management, coming up big when it matters. I know if he played for some other great coach it would have been different but I can say that about any number of QB's who always disappointed.

you left out a few good ones..Plenty of big late season games that end it for us if we lose, or at very least keep us from home field (Wash 2013 wk 16, Philly 2009 wk 17, wash wk 16 2009, etc)
Plus in any case, the "elimination" game thing is a Romo hater creation anyway.

Also, you make it sound like, as a QB, he was always the reason they lost some of those games. I get that no single player is ever the reason, but in some of those he wasn't even close to to the reason.

It doesn't matter. There will always be this narrative.

Team game and , this just in...Romo was not perfect nor has any player ever been.

 

[basilhayden]

I think the difference is that Romo was a great QB so much was expected. Dak is not a great QB, so whenever he throws a TD pass its almost like an overachievement and everyone is thrilled.

Lol. Romo was not a great QB with the same amount of starts under his belt as Dak...
Welcome to Earth...

 

[basilhayden]

Wow, Romo was a very good qb. Not great, great are not .500 qb’s and 2-6 in the playoffs.

Not according to the Dak haters.
Romo was their God.

 

[G2]

OK list any threads that start out proclaiming Prescott is the greatest QB ever. Then list all of the other threads that were started out as talking about something other than Prescott that in someplace in that thread the Prescott haters don't start blaming Prescott for whatever that thread was started for. I'll give you all the time you need to find even ONE of those threads that started as something else that turned into a Prescott hating thread. Prescott has somethings he needs to work on but he's nowhere near as bad as the Prescott haters try to paint him as.
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Preaching to the choir. I don't care enough to search for those threads. But if I had to guess there's probably none.

 

[DFWJC]

Can only compare their 1st 3 years (Romo as a starter). Romo was not great at that point. He was an int machine compared to Dak. (yes Dak fumbles this year are a big problem)

Romo's 1st 3 yrs (as a starter)
45 games - 1307 pass attempts, 46 ints.

Dak's 1st 3 yrs (with 3 games left)
45 games - 1367 pass attempts, 24 ints.

He even had some, but not quite, Eli-like interception years.

But when honestly comparing him to Dak, you may want to include a little thing called TD passes and passing yards in the conversation.

Tony had roughly 2000 more yards and 30 more passingTDs at this stage (45 games)
But Dak has not throw as many ints, obviously.

 

[dckid]

you left out a few good ones..Plenty of big late season games that end it for us if we lose, or at very least keep us from home field (Wash 2013 wk 16, Philly 2009 wk 17, wash wk 16 2009, etc)
Plus in any case, the "elimination" game thing is a Romo hater creation anyway.

Also, you make it sound like, as a QB, he was always the reason they lost some of those games. I get that no single player is ever the reason, but in some of those he wasn't even close to to the reason.

It doesn't matter. There will always be this narrative.

Team game and , this just in...Romo was not perfect nor has any player ever been.

I agree with most of what you said, and I am definitely not a Romo hater. At the end of the day Qb's are judged ( Cowboy QB's to me) by how far you take your team in the playoffs. I don't want my expectation to be Neil Lomax in the 80's where he had good numbers or Steve Deberg. I don't care about those players or teams. Romo gets way too much love and nothing is ever his fault. It's so crazy when Romo was starting, I would be defending him to fans of other teams all day, and saying how great he was, telling Skins fans that Dan Snyder would give up his right arm for a QB like Romo. In my original post istated if the ball bounces our way in a couple of important games. Seattle playoffs, Giants in 07, couple of end of season games we are having his HOF credentials discussion here and not a Romo Stockholm Syndrome.
Romo never came up big when we needed him to, he could never carry us. That is just the plain a the nose on your face facts. Nothing to fight about or get upset about.

 

[pansophy]

Exaggeration doesn't help your cause. List all of the threads that were started proclaiming Prescott the greatest QB ever. Nobody believes that or says that but there are those that say he's nowhere as bad as the Prescott haters try to paint he as. There's a difference between disputing the haters and proclaiming him the greatest QB ever. The haters turn EVERY thread into lets bash Prescott.
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Yes, greatest ever was an exaggeration, but there was the thread about Dak having the highest completion percentage in Cowboys history as if that meant we have a great franchise QB. Others went on to say in that same thread that Dak would break every Cowboy passing record before he was done, never mind that he isn't even close to TD rate that Romo was on, or that passing is easier than ever, or that even with the leading rusher in the NFL we are only scoring about 20 points a game.

 

[DFWJC]

I agree with most of what you said, and I am definitely not a Romo hater. At the end of the day Qb's are judged ( Cowboy QB's to me) by how far you take your team in the playoffs. I don't want my expectation to be Neil Lomax in the 80's where he had good numbers or Steve Deberg. I don't care about those players or teams. Romo gets way too much love and nothing is ever his fault. It's so crazy when Romo was starting, I would be defending him to fans of other teams all day, and saying how great he was, telling Skins fans that Dan Snyder would give up his right arm for a QB like Romo. In my original post istated if the ball bounces our way in a couple of important games. Seattle playoffs, Giants in 07, couple of end of season games we are having his HOF credentials discussion here and not a Romo Stockholm Syndrome.
Romo never came up big when we needed him to, he could never carry us. That is just the plain a the nose on your face facts. Nothing to fight about or get upset about.

I say "never" is a bit harsh and dishonest

But of course he was nowhere near perfect

And I agree, unless he had played maybe 3-4 good years, he will not be a HOF guy. Too bad he was paying his best his last full season and just when the D was only a year or two from being great. Maybe he could've had more playoff success vs the 2 winds and 4 losses (3 nail biters)
Snake bit in many ways

 

[KJJ]

This game should have been deja vu for many of us.
As great as the D has played for 3 quarters, I had that same old pit in my stomach as I knew they were gonna let the Eagles continue to score until it came down to who had the ball last. We've seen this same movie before.

Romo has delivered these type of games over the years... bad to mediocre for a few quarters, then ball out in the 4th to win it or score then watch the defense let the opposition walk down the field and win it.
Dak played poorly but didn't put his head down. He stood tall and played with guts. He's a work in progress but the kid has a moxy/clutch gene that very few have, even those with more physical talents.

We deify Romo but seem to forget the numerous games that he had that were carbon copies of tonight.
Remember these?

(Look at these awful INT throws.)


(The "Witten tackling a cheerleader" game.)

Dak has another yr left on his rookie contract. He's frustrating as heck sometimes but let's hope and see if the guy can get better. No, he's not the passer Romo became (and didn't benefit from sitting 4 years behind veterans) but its possible he can tweak some things in his game to become better.

The vitriol around here is ridiculous. The same way we defended Romo from outside critics is the same way some of us are defending Dak from his own fanbase. Sad.

The two games you posted from 2007 and 2011 didn’t have near as much riding on them as last Sunday’s game vs Philly. Can’t think of a really important game where Romo had at least three turnovers and was able to bounce back and lead the Cowboys to a win.

 

[KJJ]

The games against Buffalo in 2007 and Miami in 2011 didn’t have our seasons riding on them. Dak overcame tremendous adversity on Sunday with 3 turnovers to lead us to a huge win over the defending Super Bowl champions in a game we had to have. He played virtually flawless in the fourth quarter when the game was on the line. I don’t remember Romo overcoming at least three turnovers to lead the Cowboys to win in a game as critical as the one we played last Sunday. Dak is scrappy and it’s not always pretty with him but he’s clutch. You don’t see the ill-timed turnover with him.

 

[dckid]

I say "never" is a bit harsh and dishonest

But of course he was nowhere near perfect

And I agree, unless he had played maybe 3-4 good years, he will not be a HOF guy. Too bad he was paying his best his last full season and just when the D was only a year or two from being great. Maybe he could've had more playoff success vs the 2 winds and 4 losses (3 nail biters)
Snake bit in many ways

Your right never is not the correct word to use there. Honestly if I take off my Cowboy colored glasses he was a good QB but not one of the great one's even in his pass happy era. It's a tough pill to swallow but the truth. I loved the guy, he won in life. Undrafted qb to starting for the Cowboys, getting a $100 million dollar contract, lead color analyst from jump street. He won life and I'm sure he doesn't have any regrets.

 

[DFWJC]

The games against Buffalo in 2007 and Miami in 2011 didn’t have our seasons riding on them. Dak overcame tremendous adversity on Sunday with 3 turnovers to lead us to a huge win over the defending Super Bowl champions in a game we had to have. He played virtually flawless in the fourth quarter when the game was on the line. I don’t remember Romo overcoming at least three turnovers to lead the Cowboys to win in a game as critical as the one we played last Sunday. Dak is scrappy and it’s not always pretty with him but he’s clutch. You don’t see the ill-timed turnover with him.

I agree.
But fwiw, that Philly game didn't have our season riding on it either. Not even theirs, for that matter...though it was far bigger for them than us.
I think it did have at least something close to home field implications for us though--which is a big deal in the playoffs.

 

[KJJ]

I agree.
But fwiw, that Philly game didn't have our season riding on it either. Not even theirs, for that matter...though it was far bigger for them than us.

Our season was pretty much riding on that game because had Philly won they woukd have been in control of their destiny. Our destiny would have been out of our hands. We were going to have to win games and depend on other teams to lose because of tiebreakers. Last Sunday’s game was critical It pretty much guaranteed us the NFC East title and virtually killed Philly’s chances of making the playoffs.

 

[DFWJC]

Our season was pretty much riding on that game because had Philly won they woukd have been in control of their destiny. Our destiny would have been out of our hands. We were going to have to win games and depend on other teams to lose because of tiebreakers. Last Sunday’s game was critical It pretty much guaranteed us a playoff spot and virtually killed Philly’s chances.

Only for NFC East title, not Playoffs

In fact, we'd be the 6th seed right now with room to move up

 

[KJJ]

Only for NFC East title, not Playoffs

Had we lost on Sunday we weren’t guaranteed a playoff spot. We’re pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot now. Too many unlikely things have to happen for the Cowboys not to make the playoffs.

 

[DFWJC]

Wow, Romo was a very good qb. Not great, great are not .500 qb’s and 2-6 in the playoffs.

The guy had his issue but he was NEITHER of those things you just said.

If you ARE going to do something so wrong as to give team records to individual players, at least be honest about it.

A team record of 78-49 is nowhere near .500. FAR above it
A team playoff record of 2-4 is not 2-6 (which would be 50% worse)

How can you not get this basic stuff right

 

[KJJ]

Dak doesn’t get the same grief Romo did because he overcame his mistakes on Sunday in a very critical game to lead us to a big win. Dak had a 156.0 passer rating in the fourth quarter and OT on Sunday with two touchdowns when the game was on the line. When Romo had multiple turnovers in a critical game it usually led to a meltdown.

 

[WhizKid]

But to be fair to the Romo "elimination game" false narrative, this last game was not an elimination game. Let's not move goal posts and we should be consistent.

 

[Redball Express]

This game should have been deja vu for many of us.
As great as the D has played for 3 quarters, I had that same old pit in my stomach as I knew they were gonna let the Eagles continue to score until it came down to who had the ball last. We've seen this same movie before.

Romo has delivered these type of games over the years... bad to mediocre for a few quarters, then ball out in the 4th to win it or score then watch the defense let the opposition walk down the field and win it.
Dak played poorly but didn't put his head down. He stood tall and played with guts. He's a work in progress but the kid has a moxy/clutch gene that very few have, even those with more physical talents.

We deify Romo but seem to forget the numerous games that he had that were carbon copies of tonight.
Remember these

(The "Witten tackling a cheerleader" game.)

Dak has another yr left on his rookie contract. He's frustrating as heck sometimes but let's hope and see if the guy can get better. No, he's not the passer Romo became (and didn't benefit from sitting 4 years behind veterans) but its possible he can tweak some things in his game to become better.

The vitriol around here is ridiculous. The same way we defended Romo from outside critics is the same way some of us are defending Dak from his own fanbase. Sad.

Good post.

But this is typical.

Thru the years..

Staubach and Aikman were the only QBs who didn't have to fight off the critics.

Meredith..?



People wanted to yank him it seems every week if he wasn't Bart Starr.

Craig Morton?

Everybody wanted Staubach..

except Clint Longley.



Gary Hogeboom.?

Anybody else.

Danny White?



They wanted Staubach to unretire.

Troy Aikman?

They wanted Steve Walsh.

Steve Walsh?

They wanted Aikman.



Steve Beuerlein?



They wanted Troy Aikman.

DAK Prescott?

Who do they want now?

 

[HoplessCowboysFan36]

Strange point of view. Romo would get crucified for games exactly like this.