WFAA: No Excuses: How Jason Garrett Became NFL Coach Of The Year

Sydla

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I don't know how else to explain it to anyone that doesn't have an open enough mind to understand that they aren't always right.

What's your point here? That people that don't think Garrett is all that great are wrong?
 

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As he started to make game adjustments before the end of the first half...and lost a 28-3 lead, with the highest producing Offense in the NFL. Cherry pick?
Yeah, Quinn made some awesome moves in the second half of the SB.
 

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yeah when it is given out before the sb or playoffs are over, it is not much of an award, I think bellichek now is coach of the year,
no gronk, and a team with no names, just won the SB in OT in a classic comeback.
Give the Falcons some credit. They laid out the welcome mat.
 

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Not sure if you are just ignorant of the history of the Cowboys or just doing the usual Garett/Jerry apologist shtick but Landry did not inherit a team that had gone 12-4 the year before and had a franchise top 10 QB. He inherited and expansion team

Maybe someone can explain to you what an expansion team means if you are not familiar with the NFL

ANY attempts, and i mean ANY attempts at trying to equate what Landry did in his first 6-7 years with Garrett are just idiotic

But I expect nothing less from a devout Garrett/Jerry apologist (I say devout because only a cult has the gumption to ignore obvious facts in evidence and believe they are 'right')
Here's some facts:

13-3 with a rookie. Beat Pittsburgh and Green Bay in their house. Won the rushing title for second time in three years with.....yup, rookie.

12-4 with Romo 2 years ago. Won rushing title then to.

That's 25-7 with competent QB play. Let's see how many games Coughlin wins with Nassib taking over. Or Belechek with Brissett.

Give Red his due, you sound like sour grapes.
 

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Well if you call beating every team you faced except one with a third string rookie QB laughable. I'm laughing to.
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yet Garrett couldn't muster more than 4 wins with three veterans Qb's last year at the helm when he's been here for 6 years as the head coach.......did he all of a sudden get smart??
 

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Here's some facts:

13-3 with a rookie. Beat Pittsburgh and Green Bay in their house. Won the rushing title for second time in three years with.....yup, rookie.

12-4 with Romo 2 years ago. Won rushing title then to.

That's 25-7 with competent QB play. Let's see how many games Coughlin wins with Nassib taking over. Or Belechek with Brissett.

Give Red his due, you sound like sour grapes.

One playoff win in 6 seasons.

One.

Hey, great he won coach of the year this year. But the season ended with a bad loss and it's unacceptable to just accept performances like that going forward and trying to chalk it up to a guy learning on the job.

And let's be honest on Prescott. He turned out to be a much more talented NFL QB than Brissett or Nassib. That's not to take away from Garrett this year but let's not act like he just turned 5 day old ground beef that had been sitting in the blazing hot sun into Grade A filet mignon.
 

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The team went from 4-12 to 13-3 and the #1 seed and we accomplished it with a rookie QB that was drafted in the 4th round. That's how Garrett became coach of the year.
 

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I just find Jason Garrett as NFL coach of the year laughable....

He has a ton of probowlers and can't win a playoff game meanwhile Belicheat has a Brady and a bunch of scrubs and keeps winning SBs. How a coach can win this award without winning a playoff game is laughable. Yes he took a team from 4-12 to 13-3 is the stat I'm sure everyone is looking at but his ineptitude without Romo is why we were 4-12 to begin with.
 

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Never been a JG supporter nor JJ... I've been hoping for one to get fired and one to sell. Up until this year, I thought the Boy's glory days were behind them and that I would never see another ring as long as JJ owns the team. But, seems like brighter days are ahead, in spite of JG and JJ. At least let's hope so! I would bet if JJ had placed a Belichick type at the helm years ago and take a seat like Kraft, we would have had #6 by now.
this is when a go Yosemite Sam ; The head coach and GM are the reason its all put together in the way it is. Iam all wrapped up in Tarnation !!
 

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obviously am not alone on this he got the COY?

For one season. One season doesn't vault someone into Top 5 status overall. Belicheck, Tomlin, McCarthy, Payton, Rivera........... that's 5 that are better without even having to think hard.

Lovie Smith once won a Coach of the Year award. Was he a Top 5 coach then? Of course not.

Shoot, Tyrone Willingham won a Coach of the Year award at ND and he was a horrible head coach as evidence by him running two programs into the ground.
 

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Garrett's motto: Finish The Fight
Garrett Critics' motto: Fight The Power

lol. smh.
 

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For one season. One season doesn't vault someone into Top 5 status overall. Belicheck, Tomlin, McCarthy, Payton, Rivera........... that's 5 that are better without even having to think hard.

Lovie Smith once won a Coach of the Year award. Was he a Top 5 coach then? Of course not.

Shoot, Tyrone Willingham won a Coach of the Year award at ND and he was a horrible head coach as evidence by him running two programs into the ground.
winners keep moving forward with the ups and downs, his a winner. I'm through
 

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He's a winner?

By what measure? Playoff success? He has one playoff win in 6 years.

Overall wins? He has two winning seasons in 6 years.

This is an honest question, monkey. When are you going to judge him? When will you say, "You know what, it's not good enough."

So if we get to Year 10 and we haven't won anything of note, is it OK to then question his job?
 

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One playoff win in 6 seasons.

One.

Hey, great he won coach of the year this year. But the season ended with a bad loss and it's unacceptable to just accept performances like that going forward and trying to chalk it up to a guy learning on the job.

And let's be honest on Prescott. He turned out to be a much more talented NFL QB than Brissett or Nassib. That's not to take away from Garrett this year but let's not act like he just turned 5 day old ground beef that had been sitting in the blazing hot sun into Grade A filet mignon.

Can't argue with logic. Coach of the year is not coach of your career record.

And I guess the team had no part in that playoff loss. All on Garrett. Maybe he should have hand signaled the rookie to audible out of that horrendous screen pick he threw.
 

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Can't argue with logic. Coach of the year is not coach of your career record.

And I guess the team had no part in that playoff loss. All on Garrett. Maybe he should have hand signaled the rookie to audible out of that horrendous screen pick he threw.

The team bears responsibility in the loss as well. But the game was also not well coached. If it continues and we don't make the playoffs or flame out early again, it's easier to change the coach not the entire team.

And since you point out that screen pass, let's note that there were a few articles that suggested that was a coaching failure as much as Prescott making a bad decision. We ran that play from the exact same formation in the earlier GB game. We didn't change a thing. Hyde read the play based on the formation and notice he never even made a play on the WR. He went right to the spot where the ball was going to be thrown. It was reported in the GB papers that the defense knew what was coming.

That's coaching is you want to be perfectly honest. If a play becomes predictable to the point the opposing team knows what's coming............ that's a coaching deficiency.
 

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Even crazy people think their reality is the real one. But if you can find a single example of a Jason Garrett homer (whatever that's supposed to be) bashing Tony Romo I'd be interested to see it. I'm not talking about people pointing out the fact that plays are adjusted at the LoS depending on what the defense shows, obviously. That's simply a fact.

Meanwhile the team's record, Garrett's extension, the constant flow of quotes from players and staff, and now the league-wide recognition all suggest which of us was right about Jason Garrett and which had their head in a behind. Hint, because it's probably dark in there: it wasn't me.

Saying plays are adjusted by Tony Romo from run plays to pass plays without proof to absolve Garrett of his sucking is totally different than what your asking for, which is no surprise considering Garrett homers flip flop all over the pace..

Of course league-wide recognition for the last few years had him sucking as well among other facts, such as his getting play-calling duties stripped from him an Jerry himself explicitly saying we don't want him on the offense and that he will walk around on defense...

Totally hamstrung by Jerry and the fact they were more successful removing him away from what you and others were so vigorously defending was 'right about him'..
 

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Saying plays are adjusted by Tony Romo from run plays to pass plays without proof to absolve Garrett of his sucking is totally different than what your asking for, which is no surprise considering Garrett homers flip flop all over the pace..

Of course league-wide recognition for the last few years had him sucking as well among other facts, such as his getting play-calling duties stripped from him an Jerry himself explicitly saying we don't want him on the offense and that he will walk around on defense...

Totally hamstrung by Jerry and the fact they were more successful removing him away from what you and others were so vigorously defending was 'right about him'..

I can barely follow your arguments here, because they aren't really attached to anything except some of your wild guesses. Nobody's flip flopping just because you can't or won't bother to support your own argument. If you say Garrett fans were bashing Tony Romo, it really ought not be hard to show where it happened. If you can't back it up, the rest of us should just disregard your take completely as it isn't based on anything you can demonstrate to be real.

League-wide recognition the last few years does not 'have him sucking.' It has him as NFL coach of the year. Typically, less than a third of the league's head coaches call their own plays. If Jerry said explicitly we 'don't want Jason Garrett on the offense' then that really ought to be a pretty easy quote for you to find, too. I do't remember seeing that one, either.

I didn't defend Jason as a play caller, other than to point out that most of you guys simply have no idea what you're talking about when you blame anybody's play calling. I'm actually not a big fan of Garrett's offense, and I'd agree that Linehan is a better play caller than Jason was. That's not inconsistent with anything I've ever said about Jason Garrett. It's true, though, that his offenses were all generally pretty competitive on a per-series basis, which is the right way to look at their performance in the first place.
 
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