WFAA: Steve Young: "He can't be the reason why they lose"

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Players just have to play better...

We all know Romo needs to make better decisions......we will live or die by those.

Where was RW again Sunday nite? Just wondering ......

Hamilin? It should be his last year here....big contract now....lost his desire. It happens to alot of players.....when the money comes....they lose their desire. Happened to Roy Williams and others.

Spencer? Its your time....make it work.....or you will join the Carpenter group of failed 1st rd picks.

oh...about Carp.....can u please shut up.....tired of hearing from a player that contributes little and is stealing the owners money. I dont think I ever heard more from a backup player then Carp.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;2961622 said:
I think Tony is more like a Camry.
Affordable, good overall performance but he's no beemer, M-B or Jaguar.

That's an insult to my new Camry XLE.

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The best point Steve made was Romo can not be the storyline why they lose. Which is true for him and every other QB in the league.
 

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Alexander;2961614 said:
One day it might be realized that perhaps, just perhaps, Romo isn't as "talented" as we think and that the expectations are too high because of the success he had so quickly in his career.

In terms of the mental approach to the game, I don't believe he is that talented. In fact, he's almost an overachiever. His reputation as a young player was that he wasn't that talented and he had to scrap, claw and work for it. He was blue collar and a grinder. He was a gym rat and a film junkie. Now all of the sudden, he's this "talented" superstar who is underachieving? To use the car analogy, he might just be a Mercedes-Benz body with a Ford motor.

I just get the sense that some think he is underachieving. That might not be the case. This just might be the best he can be. The question then becomes when is that realized and what do you do about it.

That's exactly the way i see him.

He just is not that talented as earlier advertised. But people still stick to their outdated view.

The problem is more with the people than with Romo. This kid just can't play better. Accept it. He still is a good QB and (maybe) the best choice right now on our roster.
 

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TwentyOne;2961684 said:
That's exactly the way i see him.

He just is not that talented as earlier advertised. But people still stick to their outdated view.

The problem is more with the people rather with Romo. This kid just can't play better. Accept it. He still is a good QB and the best choice right now on our rooster.


He has the "talent". I believe he is as talented as "advertised" or as talented as "his successful start" to his career.

It his decision making. He needs to get past the impulse plays and the fumbling - then he can do well. First and foremost he will win games because he lets others help win.

Romo, of course, gets time to fix this.

Roy Williams gets time to gel with Romo.
 

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YoMick;2961694 said:
He has the "talent". I believe he is as talented as "advertised" or as talented as "his successful start" to his career.

It his decision making. He needs to get past the impulse plays and the fumbling - then he can do well. First and foremost he will win games because he lets others help win.

Romo, of course, gets time to fix this.

Roy Williams gets time to gel with Romo.

To me, decision-making is a "talent" for a QB to have. Or at least develop over time.

Bad ones make bad decisions. The whole idolatry with Favre is troubling because he does pattern himself after him. But even Favre wouldn't be what he is today without his arm and expert guidance from Holmgren earlier in his career.

It is not even physical. And even when you look at that, Romo isn't exactly straight out of the box material there either. He's somewhat shorter than optimal, doesn't have the cannon arm scouts drool over and this has been obvious, he doesn't have the mental makeup of some of the greats.

He carries himself very well and there are times he comes across like a great one though. He's good at that. But if you look deep enough, he's probably still that same player that was amazed at how fast stardom occurred a few short seasons ago. I think at times he is close to getting overwhelmed by the pressure of being the Dallas Cowboys QB. It takes a special quality of person to do it. We've been fortunate we have had two Hall of Fame types and a couple of other strong ones.
 

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TwentyOne;2961684 said:
That's exactly the way i see him.

He just is not that talented as earlier advertised. But people still stick to their outdated view.

The problem is more with the people than with Romo. This kid just can't play better. Accept it. He still is a good QB and (maybe) the best choice right now on our roster.
It's not really a question of talent with Romo but it's what he is doing with the talent that he has or doesn't have depending on how you look at it. The game the other night he was trying to do things that he shouldn't have tried to do. He should just try to make the simple play or throw the ball away instead of trying to do the spectacular. None of those turnovers he made on Sunday night were forced by the pressure of the Giants defense. I agree with you that I don't think he has great talent but he has enough talent where if he can overcome the stupid mistakes he can be very good. Sort of like Tom Brady. Brady isn't as talented as Peyton Manning but he doesn't make silly mistakes that cost his team.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2961242 said:
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In a WFAA.com exclusive 1-on-1 interview today, Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young had some choice things to say about Tony Romo's debut in the new Cowboys stadium:

"Brett Favre was his hero and I think he is almost too serious about that. He is a smart player that is doing the work. To me, it's sort of like having a niceMercedes Benz. You go out in the morning, but underneath there is oil leaking out. He is leaking oil. He's got to be more careful."

The Cowboys lost yesterday to the New York Giants, 33-31. Tony Romo finished 13/29 for 127 yards and three interceptions.

"He can't be the reason why they lose. That is the thing he needs to avoid," said Young. "If he continues to be that storyline on why they lost the big game, you can't be a great player and do that. Great players find their spots."

Entering his fourth season of playing time, Romo has 85 touchdowns compared to 49 interceptions.

"Tony needs to be able to pull back and recognize that, 'look, I'm making some bad throws. I'm not going to make another one. I'm not going to take this game away from my teammates. I have a very good team and I'm going to let them do some work for me.' He needs to be very careful because he can't be the storyline of why they are losing. No great quarterback does that."

You can see the rest of the Steve Young interview on WFAA.com later tonight.

I suppose their will be some making excuses for Romo when his play/poor decisions in big games is questioned?
 

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YoMick;2961694 said:
He has the "talent". I believe he is as talented as "advertised" or as talented as "his successful start" to his career.

It his decision making. He needs to get past the impulse plays and the fumbling - then he can do well. First and foremost he will win games because he lets others help win.

Romo, of course, gets time to fix this.

Roy Williams gets time to gel with Romo.


Decision making is a big "word" (and therefore a big problem). A big word because there are alot of things implicitly put into that (meant with it).

But most of all decission making for a QB is also a talent he must have. So if you think Romo has talent as a QB he must have the talent "decission making" also.

To be able to make decissions he must have good eyes, he must have learned how to read defences etc... Those are all skills he must have. And to get better in those skills he needs talent.

But decission making has also something to do with you psyche. Just imagine a car accident. In the second when you realize you gonna hit the other car people do instinclty different things. Some push the brakes. Some try to avoid the crash by pulling the steering wheel. Some just scream. Some may hold just their hands in front of the face. Some may close their eyes some may pray etc...

My point is to instinctly do the right thing is also a talent. But to change your instincts (your subconscious mind) is something that takes time. And with time i mean years not weeks or months.

Great QB seem to do the right things under preassure. They seem to calm down and not only make a decission but to make the right one also. Not always but most of the time. There is a big difference between them and Romo.

So i think you are right when you think his decission makings is a problem. But exactly this is what IS a bigger problem to me then most people think.
 

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Alexander;2961614 said:
One day it might be realized that perhaps, just perhaps, Romo isn't as "talented" as we think and that the expectations are too high because of the success he had so quickly in his career.

The same guy you agree with in this thread thinks he is .... so does Troy, Roger, Terry, Norm, and just about every QB in broadcasting right now.
 

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zrinkill;2961392 said:
I would also like to point out that with the same number of starts under their belt .... Tony "turnover" has exactly ONE more interception than the most accurate passer of all time Troy Aikman did.

That's if you include the interceptions Romo threw as a backup. In his first 41 starts, Romo has 46 interceptions. Aikman had 48. Favre had 46. Peyton Manning had 53. Elway had 52. Marino had 44. During Marino's only three All-Pro seasons (1984-86), he threw 61 interceptions in 48 starts. In Marino's fifth, sixth and seventh seasons as a starter, he threw 58 interceptions in 44 starts. He ended his career with nine different seasons in which he averaged more than one interception per game. Even Joe Montana had five different seasons when he threw more than an interception per game as a starter.
 

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I do agree that he's got to be more careful, pick his spots better, and just realise that he doesn't have to be a hero and try and make a play on every single play. Sometimes a thrown away ball or a run for 4-5 yards and a feet first slide would be a much better play than forcing things to try and get the big ones.
 

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AdamJT13;2961842 said:
That's if you include the interceptions Romo threw as a backup. In his first 41 starts, Romo has 46 interceptions. Aikman had 48. Favre had 46. Peyton Manning had 53. Elway had 52. Marino had 44. During Marino's only three All-Pro seasons (1984-86), he threw 61 interceptions in 48 starts. In Marino's fifth, sixth and seventh seasons as a starter, he threw 58 interceptions in 44 starts. He ended his career with nine different seasons in which he averaged more than one interception per game. Even Joe Montana had five different seasons when he threw more than an interception per game as a starter.

Thanks Adam ..... I trust your numbers much more than my own ...

And yes I was including that game.
 

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Problem with Steve Young is that you can never really tell when it's him or the concussions talking. :confused:
At least with someone like Theismann there's no question.
 

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Alexander;2961600 said:
So what you are saying is that the teams Aikman played on during his first 41 starts are just as talented as those Romo has played on?

Other than the first 11 games he played in 89, I think Aikman had a much better situation than Romo has had, perhaps until this year.

Aikman came in with Irvin and got Emmitt a year later. Romo came in with T.O. and Julius starting. Barber is a good back, but not an everydown workhorse that Emmitt was.

The offensive lines are not even comparable. Aikman never played a single game behind anyone of Corey Proctor's "ability." Romo did 3/4 of a season last year.

Most importantly though, I think the coaching and organization were completely and totally different. Comparing Wade to Jimmy is laughable, and whatever you think of Jerry the GM, he's not nearly as good as when it was Jimmy/Jerry running the show.

The teams Romo has played on are not nearly as disciplined, focused or had anywhere near the depth when someone went down. Aikman had Irvin and team buying into winning. Romo has had 3 years of TO buying into TO and taking half the team with him.

I hope we get Holmgren or Shannay in here next year. I think what Romo needs more than anything else is a better coaching structure, and someone with some skins on the wall who can take some of the spotlight off him.
 

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TwentyOne;2961737 said:
Decision making is a big "word" (and therefore a big problem). A big word because there are alot of things implicitly put into that (meant with it).

But most of all decission making for a QB is also a talent he must have. So if you think Romo has talent as a QB he must have the talent "decission making" also.

To be able to make decissions he must have good eyes, he must have learned how to read defences etc... Those are all skills he must have. And to get better in those skills he needs talent.

But decission making has also something to do with you psyche. Just imagine a car accident. In the second when you realize you gonna hit the other car people do instinclty different things. Some push the brakes. Some try to avoid the crash by pulling the steering wheel. Some just scream. Some may hold just their hands in front of the face. Some may close their eyes some may pray etc...

My point is to instinctly do the right thing is also a talent. But to change your instincts (your subconscious mind) is something that takes time. And with time i mean years not weeks or months.

Great QB seem to do the right things under preassure. They seem to calm down and not only make a decission but to make the right one also. Not always but most of the time. There is a big difference between them and Romo.

So i think you are right when you think his decission makings is a problem. But exactly this is what IS a bigger problem to me then most people think.

...i can tell you as a chessplayer that impulsiveness is the biggest problem in a budding player...and it takes a disciplined mind to overcome this...those who do become master level players...those who fail don't...it's as simple as that...the question becomes what level of distaste for losing and mistakes permeates a persons psyche...because this will determine how focused and determined one will become in eradicating it...it has to really rip you apart inside...but the team as a whole has to forget about winning and focus on execution on each and every play...the winning will take care of itself...

...i look to last sunday as sort of a regression for him...he was'nt hurried to terribly but he still throws 3 int...it's a huge disappointment going forward...
 
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