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zrinkill;2961392 said:
I would also like to point out that with the same number of starts under their belt .... Tony "turnover" has exactly ONE more interception than the most accurate passer of all time Troy Aikman did.

Not making excuses ...... just trying to show the worriers that Romo is still ahead of the curve and we should be nowhere near to giving up on him.

If you could go back in time and replace Aikman with Romo in all 3 Super Bowls..........do we win them? I'm not sure that we do. It's not how many you throw, but when you throw them.
 

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CowboyDan;2962304 said:
If you could go back in time and replace Aikman with Romo in all 3 Super Bowls..........do we win them? I'm not sure that we do. It's not how many you throw, but when you throw them.


I am not sure either ..... but then again Troy Aikman is my all time favorite Cowboy.

I know Tony would have a lot easier time with that team than this one.

But I am certain that if you put Troy on this team they would continue to struggle.
 

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CowboyDan;2962304 said:
If you could go back in time and replace Aikman with Romo in all 3 Super Bowls..........do we win them? I'm not sure that we do. It's not how many you throw, but when you throw them.

And if you put Aikman behind this line with this coaching the past 3 years he would have triple digit concussions.

Romo would have been perfect for that team because he wouldn't have been asked to do too much with Emmitt and that line. This team gets put on Romo's back too often, and that's why every mistake is magnified so much.
 

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zrinkill;2962221 said:
When have I done that? I think Romo needs to get better for us to Win a Superbowl.

I am just not a kneejerk moron who thinks since the guy is not perfect in the start of his 3rd year as a starter he sucks.

Save your silly rhetoric for the rest of the pantheon .....



Thats true ...... and Tony looks,walks,and talks like a young probowl QB ..... no matter how much people like you holler otherwise.

No apparently your the kind of MORON, if you want to use that term, that cant see the forest for the trees, and comparing Romo to Aikman is more than an apologist it would take someone who is comotose, trying to compare a true pocket passer with 3 Super Bowl wins, to a mobile QB who hasn't yet, nor will he ever, unless he produces more, win anything, and if after three years your are still doing the same dumb things over and over, your a duck!!:laugh2:
 

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wileedog;2962311 said:
And if you put Aikman behind this line with this coaching the past 3 years he would have triple digit concussions.

Romo would have been perfect for that team because he wouldn't have been asked to do too much with Emmitt and that line. This team gets put on Romo's back too often, and that's why every mistake is magnified so much.

I don't think Romo was asked to do a whole lot the other night.

Well, unless asking for 1 less INT is far too much. Dude had all the running game any QB would ever need.
 

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wileedog;2962311 said:
And if you put Aikman behind this line with this coaching the past 3 years he would have triple digit concussions.

Romo would have been perfect for that team because he wouldn't have been asked to do too much with Emmitt and that line. This team gets put on Romo's back too often, and that's why every mistake is magnified so much.

I disagree, we have a very good line, sans a few guys that played a lot last year. But that's neither here nor there. My main point is the timing of the poor throws. Troy was a big game qb who knew his role. I'm a big Tony Romo fan, and I think he'll be considered a great qb when his career is through, but he would be best served going back to a less risky style, like when he first came into the starter's role. He wasn't trying to carry the team, he was just trying to protect the ball and make clean throws to open receivers. I'm not even going to get into the horrible inaccuracy he displayed on some of the early throws.

Here's a funny thought for you though:
.....Some day Tony will be a commentator on ESPN telling you why some other QB needs to learn to protect the ball.

Romo is feast or famine. Mostly feast (and when it is he's amazing to watch), but when he's off, Red needs to keep the ball out of his hands as much as possible, and if it's a must-throw situation during one of his bad games, the play needs to be basic.
 

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thor_01;2962362 said:
No apparently your the kind of MORON, if you want to use that term, that cant see the forest for the trees, and comparing Romo to Aikman is more than an apologist it would take someone who is comotose, trying to compare a true pocket passer with 3 Super Bowl wins, to a mobile QB who hasn't yet, nor will he ever, unless he produces more, win anything, and if after three years your are still doing the same dumb things over and over, your a duck!!:laugh2:


If you can bring anything to the table ..... any proof that Romo is not doing equally well in the first of his 3rd year as a starter than the greats I have named you will have a point.

You cant ...... so you resort to "duck stories"

And by the way I did not call you a moron ..... I said I was not the moron that would do that.
 

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zrinkill;2962383 said:
If you can bring anything to the table ..... any proof that Romo is not doing equally well in the first of his 3rd year as a starter than the greats I have named you will have a point.

You cant ...... so you resort to "duck stories"

And by the way I did not call you a moron ..... I said I was not the moron that would do that.

You should reread his post.
 

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zrinkill;2962383 said:
If you can bring anything to the table ..... any proof that Romo is not doing equally well in the first of his 3rd year as a starter than the greats I have named you will have a point.

You cant ...... so you resort to "duck stories"

And by the way I did not call you a moron ..... I said I was not the moron that would do that.

By the way, how do you think Aikman would've done with all the weapons Tony has had on offense over the last 3 years? Just curious. :cool:
 

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CowboyDan;2962397 said:
By the way, how do you think Aikman would've done with all the weapons Tony has had on offense over the last 3 years? Just curious. :cool:

Aikman would have loved to have Witten.

Everyone else was arguably worse than what he had when he was winning Superbowls.

1991/2009 cowboys rosters

QB Troy or Romo - winner 1991

RB Emmitt or MB3/Felix - winner 1991

WR Irvin or Roy - winner 1991

WR Harper or Crayton - winner 1991

TE Jay or Witten/Bennett - winner 2009

FB Moose or Cricket- winner 1991

LT Tuinei or Flozell - winner 1991

LG Gogan or Kosier - winner 2009 (arguble)

C Stepnoski or Gurode - push (arguble)

RG Gesek or Davis - winner 2009 (arguble)

RT Newton or Columbo - winner 1991 (arguble)
 

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zrinkill;2962395 said:
Already did .... he is just rambling.

He didn't say you called him a moron, is what I was saying. He got what you said.
 

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Hoofbite;2962111 said:
1 season or 6 weeks don't even compare to having 3 years, 6 weeks of bench time.

And watching from the bench doesn't compare to getting playing time, but those quarterbacks still averaged more interceptions per game than Romo even after they had started four, five, six seasons or more.

The notion that a quarterback can never have a bad game or never throw a bad interception or he'll never win in the playoffs or the Super Bowl is ridiculous. Yes, you usually can't have a game like that IN the playoffs and still win the Super Bowl (although it does happen), but history is littered with quarterbacks who were in the same situation as Romo right now and went on to have playoff and Super Bowl success. It doesn't mean Romo WILL, but it certainly doesn't mean he never will, either. Like most quarterbacks, we'll have to wait and see.
 

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zrinkill;2962401 said:
Aikman would have loved to have Witten.

Everyone else was worse than what he had when he was winning Superbowls.

Interesting topic there. You're probably right. And let's not forget that amazing defense. That didn't hurt any. I would love to be able to see Troy with Terry Glenn and TO and Witt..........YIKES!
 

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zrinkill;2962383 said:
If you can bring anything to the table ..... any proof that Romo is not doing equally well in the first of his 3rd year as a starter than the greats I have named you will have a point.

You cant ...... so you resort to "duck stories"

And by the way I did not call you a moron ..... I said I was not the moron that would do that.

right, and easter bunnies are naturally purple, but leaving out the moron part,
I didnt make Romo what he is nor do I have to defend what he isn't, and that is a winning QB with a proven track record in the playoffs and one you can have confidence in to show up in the big games, and if need be pick up the team and carry them across the finish line, that is the comparison with Aikman and the others you mentioned, not book statistics, for if they were the proof Danny White would be the greatest QB in the history of the NFL......
 

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Yakuza Rich;2962246 said:
You can get unbelievable mileage out of a Camry. Romo is more like a Jeep. Can do some great, fun things, but usually breaks down a few times a year and after awhile you just want to drive it off a cliff, but then it suckers you back in when it's a summer day and you've got the top down, only to have you cursing at it a few weeks later as it won't start when you're parked at a QT.




YAKUZA


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CowboyDan;2962418 said:
Interesting topic there. You're probably right. And let's not forget that amazing defense. That didn't hurt any. I would love to be able to see Troy with Terry Glenn and TO and Witt..........YIKES!

If I was Troy I would take Irvin,Harper, and Jay over those three anyday.

Now the best would be Irvin, Harper, and Witten but that would be a dream scenario.

Troy and Owens would have never worked ...... they would have come to blows.
 

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zrinkill;2962426 said:
If I was Troy I would take Irvin,Harper, and Jay over those three anyday.

Now the best would be Irvin, Harper, and Witten but that would be a dream scenario.

Troy and Owens would have never worked ...... they would have come to blows.

Thanks for the topic of my next post!!
 

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zrinkill;2962401 said:
LT Tuinei or Flozell - winner 1991

Maybe true at Flozell's age and because of his penalties, but I still might take him over Tuinei, who was more of a Colombo type of player.

LG Gogan or Kosier - winner 2009 (arguble)

I'd definitely take Gogan. Kosier is solid, but Gogan was a borderline Pro Bowl player who ended up going to three of them (two after he left Dallas). Kosier will never be at that level.

C Stepnoski or Gurode - push (arguble)

Maybe a push or slight edge to Gurode overall. Gurode is more physically dominant, obviously, but Stepnoski might have been better making the line calls and playing smart.


RG Gesek or Davis - winner 2009 (arguble)

Not arguable. Gesek was just a solid player. I might even take Kosier over Gesek, if it was between them.


RT Newton or Columbo - winner 1991 (arguble)

As a right tackle, I might take Colombo. Thank goodness Jimmy moved Newton back to left guard in 1992. Newton struggled to pass block as a tackle.
 

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thor_01;2962420 said:
Danny White would be the greatest QB in the history of the NFL......

Danny White would have won a Superbowl with that team.

But I am not arguing the fact that Aikman is better than Romo or White.


Aikman is my all time favorite Cowboy


I am just saying that some of you are giving up on Romo too quickly.

He is just as far along as most of the greats where in their 3rd year as a starter (which I find very comforting)

He is not their yet ...... I will be the first to admit that ..... but he is still above the curve.
 
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