What Bad Contracts Do the Cowboys Have?

Alexander said:
That and a contract like Costa are the little ones that add up when you are tight to the cap.
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That's the thing. They all add up. The Cowboys rarely get a bargain. They almost sound apologetic when a player greatly out performs his contract.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
Sure and then we are out from under them. Ware will be cut next year as well most likely. We don't need to cut him this year I don't think.
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I think another consideration, too, is that it's difficult to assess the value of any of the contracts at this point when future cap numbers are unknown as well as the unknowns in extensions for other players currently on the roster or free agents affecting cap numbers in future years of current players, etc.

Also, it's easy to look at the Ratliff contract in 20/20 hindsight as a ripoff, when many here were calling it a cap-friendly, smart deal when it was completed. The same people were also happy with DeMarcus Ware's contract as well at the time, because he didn't command a ludicrous $99M contract like Mario Williams did from Buffalo.

Imagine if we handed out a Calvin Johnson style contract? The Lions are going to be in big trouble in a few years.
 
Risen Star said:
That's the thing. They all add up. The Cowboys rarely get a bargain. They almost sound apologetic when a player greatly out performs his contract.
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Sound apologetic? Ratliff's last contract was a great big fat apology that we are still paying for.
 
Risen Star said:
But he's not one of the worst starting CBs in the league. He just has no players in front of him.

This is proof that cornerbacks aren't impact players and you should never ever prioritize the position.
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only in your delusional world is it proof of that.

PFF may have terrible CB metrics or they may be quite grand but they prove nothing of the sort either way.

Seattle just won a title with a DB oriented team led by an all-pro CB.
Saban is a DB specialist who has dominated college football.
Jimmy Johnson was clueless about offensive talent but he was the best DB evaluator in football.
 
If you are talking bad contracts, guaranteed money(and cap hits) versus performance is what matters.

Sepncer was really bad... 1.5 games for ~10m
Ratliff obviously... 0 games for 8m.
Miles has probably been the worst if you count the 10m penalty we ate for his deal.
Carr is right there too.

Romo and Sean Lee are knocking their door depending upon health due to huge guarantees.

Ware and Witten are overpaid but not guaranteed money going forward and have delivered at least adequate NFL performances at their positions.
 
TheSport78 said:
They'll both be cut.
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very unlikely Parnell gets cut. He proved he could play RT in 2012.
not his fault Free go this act together in 2013.
You need a legit 3rd OT and 1.5m isn't a lot to pay.

Costa seems a very likely cut.
 
Risen Star said:
That's the thing. They all add up. The Cowboys rarely get a bargain. They almost sound apologetic when a player greatly out performs his contract.
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That's exactly right. Ratliff had like 2-3 years left on his contract when they extended him last time. The thanks he got was being threatened by that player in the locker room. I keep hearing how Jerry is this great salesman and negotiator, but we seem to get hosed quite a bit.

The Romo extension was crazy, as well, and I am a big Romo fan. You don't pay a guy like that Peyton Manning type money.
 
jterrell said:
only in your delusional world is it proof of that.

PFF may have terrible CB metrics or they may be quite grand but they prove nothing of the sort either way.

Seattle just won a title with a DB oriented team led by an all-pro CB.
Saban is a DB specialist who has dominated college football.
Jimmy Johnson was clueless about offensive talent but he was the best DB evaluator in football.
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jterrell said:
only in your delusional world is it proof of that.

PFF may have terrible CB metrics or they may be quite grand but they prove nothing of the sort either way.

Seattle just won a title with a DB oriented team led by an all-pro CB.
Saban is a DB specialist who has dominated college football.
Jimmy Johnson was clueless about offensive talent but he was the best DB evaluator in football.
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Seattle's front 7 had as much to do with it as there secondary.
 
Cowboys606 said:
Seattle's front 7 had as much to do with it as there secondary.
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No they did not.

Seattle has two All Pro DBs and a 3rd high end Pro Bowl caliber player.
On the DL they have a lot of average NFL starters but not a single elite level guy.
The LB are very solid and Wagner is close to elite.

But both Seattle safeties topped 120 combines tackles.
Only 1 LB matched that.

It is really easy to play DL when the DBs give up next to nothing and turn the ball over by picking it off at historically high rates.
Those same DBs come up and shut down the run at absurd levels. .

Again the Seattle DL themselves admit the DBs lead that defense.
 
Risen Star said:
But he's not one of the worst starting CBs in the league. He just has no players in front of him.

This is proof that cornerbacks aren't impact players and you should never ever prioritize the position.
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It all starts with the d-line. A great d-line will make mediocre CB's look good. The other way around.... not so much.
 
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