What Bad Contracts Do the Cowboys Have?

Nightman

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Aren't you converting non guaranteed base salary to guaranteed bonus in these restructures? Otherwise, why would a player agree?

Just for 2014, nothing in the future. If they are going to play for the team in 2014, their contracts are guaranteed Week 1 anyways. They agree because they get almost their whole salary paid up front in March. Most people would take a 90% lump sum payment on their yearly salary if they are already financially secure.
 

FuzzyLumpkins

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For what it is worth, PFF ranked Carr as follows over the last two years:

2013: 59th best CB in the NFL
2012: 56th best CB in the NFL

Quite frankly, those numbers say he is in the bottom 10% of starting NFL CBs or so.

Yes, it's looking like a bad contract as it relates to Carr.

pff metrics for pass defense are awful. they are based on 'closest defender' and are truly terrible.
 

TwentyOne

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The Ratliff contract was awful in retrospect but also in retrospect I count 4 deals for veteran starters that are excellent value.

I dont agree with the Ware and Witten deal. But anyways ....

So we found 4 good deals. Thats not alot compared to the 53 players on our team.

I am sorry of being so negativ. I am just fed up with the missmanagemnt of the cap and those bad deals we made in the last years.
I am fed up with this i-have-no-clue clown Stephen Jones who thinks he is the godfather of salay caps.

Why cant we find a guy with just have a brain intact ? This Salary cap is no more than basic mathmatics.
 

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I dont agree with the Ware and Witten deal. But anyways ....

So we found 4 good deals. Thats not alot compared to the 53 players on our team.

Witten signed a 5 year $37m extension. $7m AAV for reliable excellence.
 

fanfromvirginia

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Witten's deal was excellent. The Church deal is excellent. Bernadeau will start and make under $2m. Doug Free's contract is good at $3m this season. They did get him to take a pay cut which says something. Ware's contract has been good value for the course of it.

The point to take away from this is that the Ratliff and Austin contracts are about to be jettisoned off the cap and because the Ware deal is at the end it is what it is when cutting him and not some giant acceleration.

You could also take away the point that those contracts (certainly the first two) were mistakes. And the research question begged by that point is 'Does our FO make more mistakes with contracts than average?'
 

Alexander

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You could also take away the point that those contracts (certainly the first two) were mistakes. And the research question begged by that point is 'Does our FO make more mistakes with contracts than average?'

All teams make contractual mistakes. There is not a one who has not had some disasters, in fact, some even more than we have had.

The difference between what we do and what everyone else does is negligible on paper in terms of the dollars.

It is what we do after that contract is proven to be bad is what is the problem.

We do not move on from mistakes easily. In fact, like in the case of Ratliff, we actually sit there and hope that he performs to the parameters of the deal. We hang onto and force players that have checked out mentally and physically (Austin) into our plans.

It has to be at a point of no return before we do anything. It also does not help when the contract structure virtually makes this practice the norm.
 

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Austin, Lee, Ware...

Austin will be gone and Ware will be restructured...Lee's extension was a head scratcher IMHO.

LOL, you haven't read where WARE will NOT restruct his contract. He's all about the money and I see him playing for the Raiders. Google it, it's true. Why would Lee be a "head scratcher"? It totally amazes me how some fans just don't realize how tough Lee is up front, therefore he gets hurt. What do you wish him to be, a butter cup. It's not like he gets hurt slipping on ice.

By the way, how was Lee's performance in Philly last year. Nuff said.
 

fanfromvirginia

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LOL, you haven't read where WARE will NOT restruct his contract. He's all about the money and I see him playing for the Raiders. Google it, it's true. Why would Lee be a "head scratcher"? It totally amazes me how some fans just don't realize how tough Lee is up front, therefore he gets hurt. What do you wish him to be, a butter cup. It's not like he gets hurt slipping on ice.

By the way, how was Lee's performance in Philly last year. Nuff said.

No, it's not true. He has said he will restructure but won't take a pay cut. Two very different things. So he won't let them do what they did to Free last year.

Restructuring would save us money this year by pushing cap costs into future years, making it even more painful to cut him next year when he will be one year older and, potentially, just as injury-prone.
 

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No, it's not true. He has said he will restructure but won't take a pay cut. Two very different things. So he won't let them do what they did to Free last year.

Restructuring would save us money this year by pushing cap costs into future years, making it even more painful to cut him next year when he will be one year older and, potentially, just as injury-prone.

You are correct. I get excited every now and then lol. You know what amazes me. Ware wouldn't take a pay cut, but he took a pay cut by going to Denver. He wasn't worth $12.5 on our Line, but I guess the ponies think he's worth $10 on their line. By those actions, I would say he wanted out of Jerry World.
 
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