What Bad Contracts Do the Cowboys Have?

coult44

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Lee is making as much per game as any Cowboy based upon his 9-10 game schedule.
 

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Romo, Ware, Austin & Carr. Witten contract is average for an elite TE & i don't consider it "bad".
 

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correct. one a team with a bad front 7.
the seattle safeties BOTH did that apparently with an amazing front 7.

Did Church also have 5 INTs?

Nope but a better front 7 can increase that number for him.
 

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Paying McCray $1.3 last year was stupid. He did nothing as a special team ace, and even less as a safety.
That was his tender amount; however, after training camp they gave him the choice of taking the veteran minimum or be cut. His actual salary ended up as about 700k.
 

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Miles Austin obviously. His 6 year $54m extension has been awful. Since signing it in 2010, he has not had a 1000 yard season. His 24 catch 244 yard 0 TD performance this past year was particularly awful. He is to earn $5.5m and has $8m in dead money coming if we cut him. May we never have to hear of his hamstring again.

Jay Ratliff is owed mention here. Of the 5 year $40m extension he got in 2011, $7m in dead money is on the cap this year because he quit on the team last year when we needed him most. He made the pro bowl in 2011 but 2012 was especially poor with no sacks and 1 TFL in 6 games. What could have been I suppose but Jay Ratliff is a scumbag in my opinion. If I had a Jay Ratliff jersey I would probably burn it.

Demarcus Ware is probably next on the list. In year five of the 6 year $78m extension he signed in 2009, Ware is set to make $12m. Next year that balloons up to $18m. 2013 was a down year for Ware where he sacked only 2 quarterbacks in the last 10 games he played. He ended up with 13 games and 6 sacks. Despite lingering spine problems, he was able to average 15.5 sacks the previous 3 years so its not like he is out there stealing money. He has $8.5m in dead money remaining should he be cut.

Sean Lee and Tony Romo both signed 6 years extensions for $42 and $108m respectively. Both players finished the year on the IR but its much too soon to call them bad quite yet. That worm could very well turn though.

Anyone upset with $3m AAV for a kicker or still hating on Scandrick who is set to make $4.5m this season?
Ware's salary next year is 13.75M, not 18M.
 

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Miles Austin obviously. His 6 year $54m extension has been awful. Since signing it in 2010, he has not had a 1000 yard season. His 24 catch 244 yard 0 TD performance this past year was particularly awful. He is to earn $5.5m and has $8m in dead money coming if we cut him. May we never have to hear of his hamstring again.

Jay Ratliff is owed mention here. Of the 5 year $40m extension he got in 2011, $7m in dead money is on the cap this year because he quit on the team last year when we needed him most. He made the pro bowl in 2011 but 2012 was especially poor with no sacks and 1 TFL in 6 games. What could have been I suppose but Jay Ratliff is a scumbag in my opinion. If I had a Jay Ratliff jersey I would probably burn it.

Demarcus Ware is probably next on the list. In year five of the 6 year $78m extension he signed in 2009, Ware is set to make $12m. Next year that balloons up to $18m. 2013 was a down year for Ware where he sacked only 2 quarterbacks in the last 10 games he played. He ended up with 13 games and 6 sacks. Despite lingering spine problems, he was able to average 15.5 sacks the previous 3 years so its not like he is out there stealing money. He has $8.5m in dead money remaining should he be cut.

Sean Lee and Tony Romo both signed 6 years extensions for $42 and $108m respectively. Both players finished the year on the IR but its much too soon to call them bad quite yet. That worm could very well turn though.

Anyone upset with $3m AAV for a kicker or still hating on Scandrick who is set to make $4.5m this season?


I think the better question would be "What good contracts excluding rookie deals do the Cowboys have?" There may be a good argument that the answer is none.
 

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I think the better question would be "What good contracts excluding rookie deals do the Cowboys have?" There may be a good argument that the answer is none.

Witten's deal was excellent. The Church deal is excellent. Bernadeau will start and make under $2m. Doug Free's contract is good at $3m this season. They did get him to take a pay cut which says something. Ware's contract has been good value for the course of it.

The point to take away from this is that the Ratliff and Austin contracts are about to be jettisoned off the cap and because the Ware deal is at the end it is what it is when cutting him and not some giant acceleration.
 

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Witten's deal was excellent. The Church deal is excellent. Bernadeau will start and make under $2m. Doug Free's contract is good at $3m this season. They did get him to take a pay cut which says something. Ware's contract has been good value for the course of it.

The point to take away from this is that the Ratliff and Austin contracts are about to be jettisoned off the cap and because the Ware deal is at the end it is what it is when cutting him and not some giant acceleration.

Too much logic and rational thought for this place, man. But I agree. The Ratliff money coming off will be good.

In the future, we should ideally only hand out extensions to players who display absolute game-breaking ability, or game-changing ability. QB, Left Tackle, WR, edge rusher. And I think we should only extend guys until about age 32 dependent upon position.

Unless Murray becomes Adrian Peterson next year, too, I would absolutely not extend him and that's just business. That money absolutely would be better spent divided among other positions that are key cogs, or re-invested in fresh legs at the RB position.
 

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Witten's deal was excellent. The Church deal is excellent. Bernadeau will start and make under $2m. Doug Free's contract is good at $3m this season. They did get him to take a pay cut which says something. Ware's contract has been good value for the course of it.

The point to take away from this is that the Ratliff and Austin contracts are about to be jettisoned off the cap and because the Ware deal is at the end it is what it is when cutting him and not some giant acceleration.

The Lee deal is still under market, as is the Romo deal. Scandrick was a great sign and most of the rest of the team is still on their rookie deals. They have a fairly young team.
 

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Current contracts would be Austin's, Ware's and Romo's. Romo's contract is a necessary evil because he makes them competitive; Ware and Austin do not.
Romo makes them competitive for what? missed the playoffs in 5 out of the last 6 years. made the playoffs only 3 times in 8 years as a starter. if that's making a team competitive. i feel sorry for the team. Romo's contract is a bad contract.
 

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Just be ready for the inevitable 6 year, $65 Million contract that Terrance Williams will get after he gets his first 1000+ yard season...

:(
 

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Romo makes them competitive for what? missed the playoffs in 5 out of the last 6 years. made the playoffs only 3 times in 8 years as a starter. if that's making a team competitive. i feel sorry for the team. Romo's contract is a bad contract.

Using your reasoning, they might as well cut Romo and get a trained chimp from the zoo and pay him peanuts.

With Romo, this team has a fighting chance to compete each week. They may not win but there is a chance to be competitive. Without Romo, this team would be drafting in the top 3.
 

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Miles Austin obviously. His 6 year $54m extension has been awful. Since signing it in 2010, he has not had a 1000 yard season. His 24 catch 244 yard 0 TD performance this past year was particularly awful. He is to earn $5.5m and has $8m in dead money coming if we cut him. May we never have to hear of his hamstring again.

Jay Ratliff is owed mention here. Of the 5 year $40m extension he got in 2011, $7m in dead money is on the cap this year because he quit on the team last year when we needed him most. He made the pro bowl in 2011 but 2012 was especially poor with no sacks and 1 TFL in 6 games. What could have been I suppose but Jay Ratliff is a scumbag in my opinion. If I had a Jay Ratliff jersey I would probably burn it.

Demarcus Ware is probably next on the list. In year five of the 6 year $78m extension he signed in 2009, Ware is set to make $12m. Next year that balloons up to $18m. 2013 was a down year for Ware where he sacked only 2 quarterbacks in the last 10 games he played. He ended up with 13 games and 6 sacks. Despite lingering spine problems, he was able to average 15.5 sacks the previous 3 years so its not like he is out there stealing money. He has $8.5m in dead money remaining should he be cut.

Sean Lee and Tony Romo both signed 6 years extensions for $42 and $108m respectively. Both players finished the year on the IR but its much too soon to call them bad quite yet. That worm could very well turn though.

Anyone upset with $3m AAV for a kicker or still hating on Scandrick who is set to make $4.5m this season?

Actually the question should've been: What good contracts do we have ?

The list would be a lot shorter.
 

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Actually the question should've been: What good contracts do we have ?

The list would be a lot shorter.

Witten's deal was excellent. The Church deal is excellent. Bernadeau will start and make under $2m. Doug Free's contract is good at $3m this season. They did get him to take a pay cut which says something. Ware's contract has been good value for the course of it.

The point to take away from this is that the Ratliff and Austin contracts are about to be jettisoned off the cap and because the Ware deal is at the end it is what it is when cutting him and not some giant acceleration.

The Ratliff contract was awful in retrospect but also in retrospect I count 4 deals for veteran starters that are excellent value.
 

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The Ratliff contract was awful in retrospect but also in retrospect I count 4 deals for veteran starters that are excellent value.

Yeah, but we have to look at the fact that we have to restructure Romo, Lee, Carr, and countless others, which means guaranteeing them more money in the future. I hate being in a position where you have an aging, declining player and can't get rid of them.
 

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Yeah, but we have to look at the fact that we have to restructure Romo, Lee, Carr, and countless others, which means guaranteeing them more money in the future. I hate being in a position where you have an aging, declining player and can't get rid of them.

You don't guarantee anymore money in the future by restructuring. And you don't make it harder for you to cut them. You are merely paying for it in the future when the cap will go up and the hit will be smaller. It's a no-interest loan.
 

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You don't guarantee anymore money in the future by restructuring. And you don't make it harder for you to cut them. You are merely paying for it in the future when the cap will go up and the hit will be smaller. It's a no-interest loan.

Aren't you converting non guaranteed base salary to guaranteed bonus in these restructures? Otherwise, why would a player agree?
 
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