What beat writers are saying about Wentz, and a QB at 4 currently

WillieBeamen

BoysfanfromNY
Messages
16,490
Reaction score
48,274
I have a feeling that it's more likely that people use what you mentioned as an excuse or reason for bashing the front office when/if they don't take a QB.
Jerry has said multiple times that he believes Romo hs 4-5 more years in him. He's also said having Romo gives them the luxury of not having to go QB that early. So if/when that happens (not selecting a QB), you think the more likely scenario is they didnt think the QBs available arent franchise caliber?

This is Jerry Jones we are talking about. He's so invested in Romo and in "win now" mode, that I can absolutely see him picking a corner or linebacker with the pick, because we are "so close"z
 

Alexander

What's it going to be then, eh?
Messages
62,482
Reaction score
67,294
Jerry has said multiple times that he believes Romo hs 4-5 more years in him. He's also said having Romo gives them the luxury of not having to go QB that early. So if/when that happens (not selecting a QB), you think the more likely scenario is they didnt think the QBs available arent franchise caliber?

This is Jerry Jones we are talking about. He's so invested in Romo and in "win now" mode, that I can absolutely see him picking a corner or linebacker with the pick, because we are "so close"z

Closer than any other 4-12 team in league history.
 

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
Franchise QB is such a vague term.

Does that mean he can start for 10 years like a Bradford or does it have to be a guy you would build a team around if you had the first pick?

Are Alex Smith and Joe Flacco Franchise QBs and would you be happy if Goff/Wentz turned out like them?

At this point I would say YES YES YES
 

Rogerthat12

DWAREZ
Messages
14,605
Reaction score
9,989
I don't think they'll do it either, because it's the right thing to do and we have the worst front office in all of sports. I have great faith in their ability to always do the wrong thing.

But that won't stop me from banging the drum for the QB in an effort to avoid what's in our near future - being one of those teams that can't compete because they have no QB. It is a dreadful place to be.

Proactive is addressing this now by taking advantage of our positioning in this draft. Let the prospect sit and be groomed behind Romo for a hopefully near seamless transition when that day comes.

Reactive, which is what Jerry is because he has no clue what he's doing, is waiting until Romo is done, you're in a crisis and now desperate for any QB you can find. Not only are you more liable to reach for that QB but he probably has to play pretty soon because you just have nothing at the position. Your team's in a worse position and your new QB is in a worse position. But Go Cowboys.

I will hope for the best but expect the worst.

Unfortunately, this FO is more interested in "Secret Sauce" and "Glory Holes" than it is in actually have a vision for the future while still remaining competitive now.

After 20 years without as much as a Super Bowl visit much less win, everyone should be bashing the FO for such ineptitude, yet Jerry is perplexed by such a notion.
 
Last edited:

Pessimist_cowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,905
Reaction score
15,276
Im starting to just want Ezekiel Elliot @ 4 . I know you guys might think it's insane but ! 2 years from now it won't be. He is probably a top 2 player in this draft . He would also make an absolute immediate impact.
 

RS12

Well-Known Member
Messages
32,638
Reaction score
30,240
Now, will the presence of another quarterback prevent the Cowboys from drafting another one? It shouldn’t – assuming they genuinely think one of these quarterbacks is their best option at No. 4.

But that’s the crux of this issue. I’m forecasting just a bit, but I just don’t see them thinking that when all is said and done. There’s too much uncertainty elsewhere, and there’s too many question marks about this quarterback class.

One of these guys might become a future start, but I just don’t see the can’t-miss prospect like Cam Newton, Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston.

What I do see is a long list of readymade contributors at several other positions – Joey Bosa, Jalen Ramsey, Myles Jack and Laquon Treadwell. I’ll even toss Noah Spence and Ezekiel Elliott into the mix for argument’s sake.

There are cornerstone-caliber players to be found at No. 4 who can help right away. There are months left to go, but that’s the eventual conclusion I think the Cowboys will come to, as well.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/02/03/helman-why-im-not-buying-hype-qb-options-no-4-overall
 

reddyuta

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,602
Reaction score
17,311
Now, will the presence of another quarterback prevent the Cowboys from drafting another one? It shouldn’t – assuming they genuinely think one of these quarterbacks is their best option at No. 4.

But that’s the crux of this issue. I’m forecasting just a bit, but I just don’t see them thinking that when all is said and done. There’s too much uncertainty elsewhere, and there’s too many question marks about this quarterback class.

One of these guys might become a future start, but I just don’t see the can’t-miss prospect like Cam Newton, Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston.

What I do see is a long list of readymade contributors at several other positions – Joey Bosa, Jalen Ramsey, Myles Jack and Laquon Treadwell. I’ll even toss Noah Spence and Ezekiel Elliott into the mix for argument’s sake.

There are cornerstone-caliber players to be found at No. 4 who can help right away. There are months left to go, but that’s the eventual conclusion I think the Cowboys will come to, as well.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/02/03/helman-why-im-not-buying-hype-qb-options-no-4-overall

sigh.this is such short term thinks.Its just boggles my mind but i wouldnt be surprised if Jerry feels the same because he has ignored the most important position on the team for 20 years and we been in the wilderness for 20 years.My only hope is Stephen or Mcclay should pund some sense into him as they did with Manzil at draft time.
 

texbumthelife

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,738
Reaction score
23,273
Jerry has said multiple times that he believes Romo hs 4-5 more years in him. He's also said having Romo gives them the luxury of not having to go QB that early. So if/when that happens (not selecting a QB), you think the more likely scenario is they didnt think the QBs available arent franchise caliber?

This is Jerry Jones we are talking about. He's so invested in Romo and in "win now" mode, that I can absolutely see him picking a corner or linebacker with the pick, because we are "so close"z

i don't think Jerry is going to pass on a guy who has franchise QB potential at #4, no. This is the guy who was ready to take Manziel. He knows it needs to be addressed. He is not, however, going to reach to take one based on a knee-jerk reaction to one injury ridden season from Romo.
 

waving monkey

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,540
Reaction score
14,930
Franchise QB is such a vague term.

Does that mean he can start for 10 years like a Bradford or does it have to be a guy you would build a team around if you had the first pick?

Are Alex Smith and Joe Flacco Franchise QBs and would you be happy if Goff/Wentz turned out like them?

At this point I would say YES YES YES

I always thought it meant ,he can take you to the play offs each year if the cards fall right.
 

LatinMind

iPhotoshop
Messages
17,458
Reaction score
11,571
I think he just pulled that out of his read end. He doesn't think they'll take a QB high probably because he wouldn't and is looking for some kind of rational reason for it.

So youre saying hes saying this because its what he thinks and is pushing it as pushing for rational reasoning? But youre dismissing his thoughts who is around the team and im sure speaks to them, but still passing his thoughts as nothing more then what he wants because you want the opposite of what hes saying? Arent you doing exatly what ur youre saying hes doing? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
 

starfrombirth

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,087
Reaction score
1,419
The more I study Wentz and Goff and to a lesser extent Lynch, the more I like them.

I just do not think this team is ready to make that kind of impact decision.

They would much rather sit around in a delusional cloud, pretending Romo has three to five years more (not a damn debate, guys) and that signing some cast off high maintenance backup will suffice.

I hate it when I agree with you ... be that as it may (and I love Romo) we need to be proactive in his backup / replacement and in all reality we will be picking in the 15-20 range in the near future so never really have a chance to take a true impact blue chip player. My personal preference is Lynch. I think he has great physical tools and can learn the mental aspect of the game by being immersed in the Romo filmroom. :D
 

IrishAnto

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,068
Reaction score
1,997
Now, will the presence of another quarterback prevent the Cowboys from drafting another one? It shouldn’t – assuming they genuinely think one of these quarterbacks is their best option at No. 4.

But that’s the crux of this issue. I’m forecasting just a bit, but I just don’t see them thinking that when all is said and done. There’s too much uncertainty elsewhere, and there’s too many question marks about this quarterback class.

One of these guys might become a future start, but I just don’t see the can’t-miss prospect like Cam Newton, Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston.

What I do see is a long list of readymade contributors at several other positions – Joey Bosa, Jalen Ramsey, Myles Jack and Laquon Treadwell. I’ll even toss Noah Spence and Ezekiel Elliott into the mix for argument’s sake.

There are cornerstone-caliber players to be found at No. 4 who can help right away. There are months left to go, but that’s the eventual conclusion I think the Cowboys will come to, as well.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/02/03/helman-why-im-not-buying-hype-qb-options-no-4-overall

When drafted the only one of those three that was considered "can't miss" was Luck.

Both Newton and especially Winston were considered to have great potential but were flawed.

Can't miss prospects appear once in a blue moon and going forward will be even rarer due to most College programs running the Spread Offense (or variation thereof).
 

Yakuza Rich

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,043
Reaction score
12,385
Older QBs who actually, physically made it through the season. Cam isnt old.

Exactly.

Obviously, the defense has to improve, but we can't neglect the QB position in any way, shape or form.

And 3 of the QB's in the championship games were former #1 overall picks.








YR
 

Yakuza Rich

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,043
Reaction score
12,385
The more I study Wentz and Goff and to a lesser extent Lynch, the more I like them.

I just do not think this team is ready to make that kind of impact decision.

They would much rather sit around in a delusional cloud, pretending Romo has three to five years more (not a damn debate, guys) and that signing some cast off high maintenance backup will suffice.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. I hope that's not the case, but I just sense that they will try to find somebody in the 2nd or 3rd round. Maybe a Kevin Hogan.

And what's even worse is that Jerry has struggled to put together a good defense. He has found some great players in the drafts over the years, but actually compiling those players and turning it into a good defense has been something he has not been able to do over the past 20 years. And I don't know why we would think that is going to change anytime soon and why we would think that using the 4th overall pick on defense may, at best, produce another great player, but on a defense that isn't a top-5 defense in the league.





YR
 

vicjagger

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,110
Reaction score
1,934
Im starting to just want Ezekiel Elliot @ 4 . I know you guys might think it's insane but ! 2 years from now it won't be. He is probably a top 2 player in this draft . He would also make an absolute immediate impact.

Let's do that after we trade back a few spots and pick-up an extra 2 rounder.
 

Zimmy Lives

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,165
Reaction score
4,631
Franchise QB is such a vague term.

Does that mean he can start for 10 years like a Bradford or does it have to be a guy you would build a team around if you had the first pick?

Are Alex Smith and Joe Flacco Franchise QBs and would you be happy if Goff/Wentz turned out like them?

At this point I would say YES YES YES[/quote]

Yes! Yes! Yes!

BTW, isn't there a wrestler who says this?
 
Top