What can change logically

[nobody]

If MM came out and used the media to take control...I would say yes. It will take this coaching staff and the players deciding its about them and they are going to put it all on the line for each other. They will say it in the media but I mean actually do it. MM would have to come out and force Jerry's hand in the media by saying "I will be leading the offense this season with KM helping" and actually do it. If he does this there is a chance the players get behind him and we have a "Major League" type thing going and good things can happen....Otherwise at the first sign of adversity this whole thing will fold as the owner continues to burry the HC.

LOL, it's funny that you think this is even remotely possible. The very next day the headlines would read "MM Fired"

 

[CowboyFrog]

Amazing Moore is receiving so much criticism after ranking #1 in offense .

I mean not really, if the players only get credit for doing it based on beating up bad teams shouldn't that be the OC's critique also?

 

[CowboyFrog]

LOL, it's funny that you think this is even remotely possible. The very next day the headlines would read "MM Fired"

Again if Jerry did that what would that tell the only court he cares about which is the court of public opinion...he would be crucified in the media as the guy everyone thought he was.

Jerry would have no play here other than letting MM know he is fired if it doesnt work..which he probably is either way if it doesnt work.

 

[Mr_437]

Barely into the off-season with the same coaches and more importantly owner/gm, and you think something is going to change? I'm betting on 26 years solid evidence it will stay the same.

 

[Diehardblues]

I mean not really, if the players only get credit for doing it based on beating up bad teams shouldn't that be the OC's critique also?

Sounds like the schemes is there. And most likely the talent isn’t as good as all of its competition.

It’s not like we were blown out by all of the better competition. Coaches can only place their talent in position to win. Ultimately they must execute the plays.

 

[Jake]

A lot of people are saying nothing will change. Rinse, repeat, same old same old, etc., but I’m not so sure. Sometimes, “tweaks” make all the difference. I’m in the camp that wants a new OL Coach, fix the trenches, get another RB and tweak the playbook, but we haven’t done that—yet. But if we do nothing else, let’s look at it logically:
1)got a kicker
2)getting a new WR Coach.
3)player movement—Lawrence, Cooper and a few others are likely gone.
4)NFL Draft
5)Free agency
6)Likely scheme adjustments
7)Different schedule
8)Team health
9)Penalties
10)Weather and circumstance

Combine everything, and that’s a lot of change. Every year is a seperate entity.

Every year is a separate entity, but the people making personnel decisions in the front office never change.

They are under no pressure to be successful, and that's an ongoing problem. There's no dancing around it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Amazing Moore is receiving so much criticism after ranking #1 in offense .

The fact that his offense ranked 1st 2 out of his 1st 3 years is reason for hope with me. Having said that, yes there are things he must improve on. I tend not be as knee jerk about these things, in my view he has shown enough for me to stay with him but have seen enough to know there is things he must improve on. I think he has to learn to demand more out of his players and how they perform and keep on top of guys who are making mistakes. I think some of that comes about through experience. I think as a young coach he may tolerate too much but I think the older you get and more experienced you get the less tolerate you become.

 

[Diehardblues]

The fact that his offense ranked 1st 2 out of his 1st 3 years is reason for hope with me. Having said that, yes there are things he must improve on. I tend not be as knee jerk about these things, in my view he has shown enough for me to stay with him but have seen enough to know there is things he must improve on. I think he has to learn to demand more out of his players and how they perform and keep on top of guys who are making mistakes. I think some of that comes about through experience. I think as a young coach he may tolerate too much but I think the older you get and more experienced you get the less tolerate you become.

I’d argue more improvements needs to be made in the execution and talent making the key plays against the tougher opponents .

 

[Diehardblues]

In most cases we should rely more on the talent overcoming the coaching than needing the coaching to overcome the talent .

If our talent has flaws or weaknesses better teams or talent will expose them.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Sounds like the schemes is there. And most likely the talent isn’t as good as all of its competition.

It’s not like we were blown out by all of the better competition. Coaches can only place their talent in position to win. Ultimately they must execute the plays.

if your argument is the players were prepared and focused and just decided they would get mass penalties and look lost, then we will just have to agree to disagree on it. I dont blow off the fact we could not move the ball on full blown zone defenses but on man heavy blitz defense we killed them...I'm sorry one points to scheme the other points to skill of player..wouldnt you agree?

 

[Doomsday101]

I’d argue more improvements needs to be made in the execution and talent making the key plays against the tougher opponents .

I do as well which is why it falls to Moore to stay on top of guys through out the week. I do think this team has a certain amount of doubt in themselves when facing top teams, They have played some tight games but have not gotten over the hump. I think once this team can go out and win vs top teams that they build confidence that they can play with the best. Hell I think even the week 1 game vs Tampa instilled a lot of confidence in this team going toe to toe with the Bucs on the road, but that confidence starts to slip when you continue to come up short.

 

[Big_D]

Amazing Moore is receiving so much criticism after #1 ranked offense .

#1 until the playoffs. Then it’s time to blame McCarthy! Same goes for Quinn. Both sides of the ball looked pathetic.

 

[Diehardblues]

if your argument is the players were prepared and focused and just decided they would get mass penalties and look lost, then we will just have to agree to disagree on it. I dont blow off the fact we could not move the ball on full blown zone defenses but on man heavy blitz defense we killed them...I'm sorry one points to scheme the other points to skill of player..wouldnt you agree?

Penalties is a different issue. This is the first mention of that .

 

[nobody]

Again if Jerry did that what would that tell the only court he cares about which is the court of public opinion...he would be crucified in the media as the guy everyone thought he was.

Jerry would have no play here other than letting MM know he is fired if it doesnt work..which he probably is either way if it doesnt work.

Jerry would weather it and there would be no long-term change. He got crucified after Jimmy Johnson and doubled down on doing it his own way.

 

[Diehardblues]

#1 until the playoffs. Then it’s time to blame McCarthy! Same goes for Quinn. Both sides of the ball looked pathetic.

Then I’d argue our talent was over hyped . And the coaching was too.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Penalties is a different issue. This is the first mention of that .

Yes what i meant was being able to beat man up blitz defense points to having skill on the field, not being able to move the ball on full zone points more to a scheme that is not using its players right...again thats my opinion not football gospel.

 

[glimmerman]

I think if you can use the short passing game and running game to help setup strikes down field you can put up the points. Early on Dallas was doing just that. I do think weakness at LG and Center became a focal point on how DC would attack. I also think Dak has to be a bit less hesitant to pull the ball and run at times. He had the fewest rushing attempts this year, his lowest yard rushing total and fewest rushing TD this past season.

When Dak came back from injury I noticed when we blew out the falcons he ran one in for a TD and was really excited about it. Apparently JJ and the staff were not happy. A big part of Daks game is pulling it down and taking off. Or even having some designed runs. After the injury and his contract they seem to want him to be a pocket passer. He needs to set that up in a game. The QB draw to end the season was a good play call at the wrong time. It should have been ran earlier in the game. He needed to be taking off here and there to confuse the defenses. Once they have to account for it then it seems to help him in the pocket with someone staying around to spy him. He did it for years and it worked.. Needs to be a change back to that this coming season..

 

[Diehardblues]

#1 until the playoffs. Then it’s time to blame McCarthy! Same goes for Quinn. Both sides of the ball looked pathetic.

But that was the story all season against better opponents . And why many of us warned against the matchups heading into playoff game wasn’t favorable for us.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes what i meant was being able to beat man up blitz defense points to having skill on the field, not being able to move the ball on full zone points more to a scheme that is not using its players right...again thats my opinion not football gospel.

You’ve kinda lost me now with specific X and O for situations in games . I’m making a broader analysis.

 

[Big_D]

Then I’d argue our talent was over hyped . And the coaching was too.

The turnaround was certainly going to take more time but the effort and penalties and preparation fall on all 3 coaches. Doesn’t mean you’re ready to win championships but they looked like crap in the biggest game of the year. You expected the D to not be very good considering they haven’t been good for years. But an offense with “stars” everywhere. Horrendous!

that’s the problem here. Everyone over values most players. GM especially. And now the coordinators are superstars too. lol