What did Goodell say about Wade Wilson?

[WV Cowboy]

again, it sounds like he is letting the patriots off the hook;

he suspended players like tank johnson, pac man, bengal players, wade wilson, and vick, but he Blinks when it comes to the patriots and bilechick,

so to me he is favoring the patriots, and letting them off the hook, if you ask sports writers, televison crews, etc, they all agree Goodell is letting the patriots off the hook,

and that is bullcrap about bilechick misunderstanding the way the rules were about using cameras to record signals, Goodell knows that is bullcrap, and so does the NFL,

Duh, .. do you remember the "tuck rule" ?

The Pats & Kraft are one of the NFL's favorites, .. the same thing if it had been the Steelers & the Roonies.

Two sets of rules.

Remember the "tainted" Steelers SB win?

 

[sbark]

I thought i caught it somewhere that Wade W had a doctors prescription for HGH?

That would take the Illegality arguement away

 

[sacase]

Here's exactly what was said --

Costas says, "Wilson, who is no longer a player, says he received it to help him cope with the effects of diabetes. Is that a disproportionate penalty -- assistant coach for HGH as against Belichick with a competitive advantage?"

Goodell replies, "Well first of all, I'm not going to get into the personal situations for why Wade was taking it, but that's not an accurate point. Second of all, Wade Wilson was involved in a criminal activity. It was against the law."

Well he was not prosecuted. So are we going to start fining players who speed and not get caught? Put breathalyzers on all players cars to catch them drinking and driving? Fact is, he was not prosecuted. Hell, did he even actualy do something illegal or was the person who gave him the perscription doing something illegal? Way to be judge jury and executioner Goodel.

 

[cowboyjoe]

thats what i am pointing to, wade wilson got a doctors prescription, so in reality, he isnt at fault, the doctor is, but what does goodell do to him, he throws the book at wade wilson; but lets bilechick off and the pats, face it guys, Goodell chickened out, due to presence of bilechick and kraft the owner,

no matter how you get around it, goodell set a precedent when he suspended wilson, and the 33% fine, but what does he do with bilechick, he doesnt suspend him, when everyone knows bilechick was cheating, and he knew he was cheating, and goodell let him get away with it, that is illegal too, against the NFL laws.

wade wilson took the medicine for his diabetes, he says, if you cant prove he didnt give it to anyone else, which in itself maybe points to the chicago bears having their coaches maybe do things illegally,

i am not saying that happened, but nothing was found that led to that, so in that thesis, it proves that wade wilson didnt break the law, if what one guys says is right, its not illegal to receive it the medicine, if you use if for yourself, whats illegal is to distribute, in that i think is the whole crux of the situation, Goodell thinks Wade Wilson was distributing the medicine, but he cant prove it, so he threw the book at wade wilson, but he didnt throw the book at Bilechick and kraft, which is totally wrong, and the whole USA knows it,

now to me, Goodell should be called out, and made to realize that all fans knows he whiffed on that decision, and that he has to do something to rectify the situation.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I thought i caught it somewhere that Wade W had a doctors prescription for HGH?

That would take the Illegality arguement away

The doctor who prescribed it did not actually see him, so it made the transaction illegal.

 

[SultanOfSix]

The doctor who prescribed it did not actually see him, so it made the transaction illegal.

Illegal for the doctor.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Illegal for the doctor.

For the recipient, too. You best believe if Wade Wilson or Rodney Harrison had not cooperated, charges would have been brought against them, too. As of now, tho, neither are not facing criminal charges as the DA wanted to go after the doctor and the clinic.

 

[SultanOfSix]

For the recipient, too. You best believe if Wade Wilson or Rodney Harrison had not cooperated, charges would have been brought against them, too. As of now, tho, neither are not facing criminal charges as the DA wanted to go after the doctor and the clinic.

How so? When you say without seeing him, what do you mean?

A doctor is not entailed to see a patient to given him a prescription if he has past history with him.

What actually made writing the prescription illegal? As far as I know, HGH isn't illegal if given under prescription. Also, if the patient didn't know it's illegal, he can't be held responsible for it.

 

[WoodysGirl]

How so? When you say without seeing him, what do you mean?

A doctor is not entailed to see a patient to given him a prescription if he has past history with him.

What actually made writing the prescription illegal? As far as I know, HGH isn't illegal if given under prescription. Also, if the patient didn't know it's illegal, he can't be held responsible for it.

Basically, it's an issue of if he had gone in to the doctor and had the doctor examined him, it wouldn't be an issue. But since he did not, it becomes a crime. The DA in this case chose not to prosecute, because they were cooperative.

per the article:

According to the report, prosecutors said Harrison, who met in Foxborough, Mass. last week with investigators for the Albany County (N.Y.) District Attorney's office, acknowledged he bought HGH "more than once" online last year with an illegal prescription provided by a doctor associated with a Florida wellness clinic.

Harrison, who has been suspended for four games for violating the NFL's banned susbstance policy, is not facing any criminal charges in the case.

Chris Baynes, an Albany assistant DA, told the Globe that Harrison bought the HGH from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center with a prescription allegedly signed by a doctor who never examined him. The law requires doctors to see patients before they write prescriptions, and the doctor, Robert G. Carlson, has pleaded guilty in the case.

"We've had experience with confronting people with this kind of information and they are not forthcoming and cooperative," Soares told the Globe. "Any time they are willing to sit down at the table and be honest and forthright, you have to admire that."

 

[SultanOfSix]

Well, that article implies that Harrison obtained HGH from a doctor who did something illegal. Afterall, we don't know if Harrison just called up the doctor and asked the doctor if he could write him a prescription for HGH and he said sure without Harrison knowing the legality of it.

Also, I don't know if the same situation applies to Wade because this article doesn't mention how he obtained it.

To me, it seems like Goodell is throwing up some BS after being called on his.

 

[conner01]

you can't consider the fact they have two first round picks. the penalty has to be uniform and so it is illrelavant they have two.
wilson himself said he did'nt get it to treat his diabities but to treat his sexual disfuntion problem.
it is a crime to get an illegal prescribtion when you know it is illegal. thats how they found out about him recieving it was when they investigated the doc
the penalty is the most servere punishment ever handed down for what in my opinion is no where near the worst incident committed. i think cheating on the salary cap is a much bigger deal and the 49ers and bronco's where caught and very little was ever done about it

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't know that anybody has actually said this or not but I believe that Goodell believes Wilson was distributing these HGH products to players. I think Goodell believes that Wilson ordered them and then it was distributed, thus creating no link to any of the players directly. I don't know for sure but I think this is what Goodell suspects. Regardless of what people say, Goodell has been pretty even, IMO, in his punishments and penalties. What he handed down to Wilson is pretty harsh for just purchasing HGH for personal use. I am diabetic and I have never heard of HGH to be used to treat this problem.

HGH will help you decrease body fat, that's true. This is important to Diabetics because the leaner the muscle, the better it's able to matabilize sugars. However, there are many, many other cheaper medications that can help you with this. Wilson, to my knowledge has never been heavy. I see no reason for him to use this because he already has lean muscle mass. Essentially, he could just do it with diet. HGH, to my knowledge, has nothing at all to do with insulin. I'd have to see something suggesting the bennifits of taking HGH to treat Diabetes. Heck, I'd probably be the first in line if it were proven.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Well, that article implies that Harrison obtained HGH from a doctor who did something illegal. Afterall, we don't know if Harrison just called up the doctor and asked the doctor if he could write him a prescription for HGH and he said sure without Harrison knowing the legality of it.

Also, I don't know if the same situation applies to Wade because this article doesn't mention how he obtained it.

To me, it seems like Goodell is throwing up some BS after being called on his.

There are a bunch of articles on the matter. He and Wade's names both appear in the clinic records.

Wade Wilson, currently the Cowboys' quarterback coach and former NFL QB, reportedly also admitted to NFL officials that he received illegal drugs.

According to the New York Daily News, Wilson admitted receiving HGH while working for the Chicago Bears from 2004-06. Citing sources, the News said Harrison and Wilson were subjects of an investigation by the Albany (N.Y.) County District Attorney's office into an Internet drug scam.

The investigation was instigated by the Albany County district attorney, and involved New York Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement agents and an Orlando, Fla,-based federal task force. In February, state and federal agents and representatives from other law enforcement entities raided two Signature Pharmacy outlets in Orlando, and several Florida clinics alleged to have supplied prescriptions for performance enhancers to professional athletes.

Also, the owners of Applied Pharmacy Services in Mobile, Ala., which is alleged to have provided performance enhancing drugs to athletes, were indicted in Albany County.

 

[Rack]

I still don't agree with the 5 game suspension on Wilson, but I see Goodell's point for suspending him that many games as opposed to no suspension for Belicheat.


Overall, I STRONGLY support the new commish.

 

[SMCowboy]

I am sorry, I am going to call BS on the using HGH for either sexual or diabetic problems. We hear all types of excuses from players all the time when they are caught with steroids and noone believes a single one of them. Why is it that when it is one of our coaches we believe his excuse when he admits he knowingly took the illegal route to get the drugs.

I definately do think that the suspension for Wade Wilson and not for Bilicheat was deserved. What Wade Wilson did was illegal. Had he gone to a legitimate doctor to get the drugs, but he either never tried or tried and was turned down, so he took the illegal route.