What do you guys think of Justin Blaylock?

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I think our first round pick must be a CB. This allows us to protect ourselves in two ways (Aaron Glenn's 34, Henry isn't getting any younger nor is Newman (29)): He'd be our future starter soon but also allows us the flexbility needed if we must move Henry to FS cause Watkins hasn't stepped up. I don't want to draft/sign a FS cause we have the Henry option but also need add a younger talented CB given Glenn's age, etc.
 

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dbair1967;1388250 said:
you can get quality starting guards without wasting premium picks on them

use high picks on impact positions...not positions where almost any decent player can be plugged in...guards and centers can be coached up and made into adequate players

David

Oh yea, then why haven't we been able to get one? Some think you can just plug a guy in as a guard and be successful. That's a faulty line of thinking. You can do that and be average or below, but as we've seen the past few years, an average line gets you nowhere. We need to stop trying to plug in useless players at guard and get a young talented guard that will be there for years. You'd be amazed how much better our running game would be if we did this. By the way, if guards are so easy to come by, then why is everyone pandering for high-priced free agent guards?
 

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All you have to do is watch him during the Senior bowl practices and game....He isn't even close to a first round pick...and i don't know if he's worth a 2nd....He looked terrible...
 

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If we could get a guy like Blaylock in the second round, then I'd be happier than a donor at a sperm bank. However, he will not be there when we pick in the second, IMO. If we could trade down and get him, that would also be great.
 

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Star4Ever;1389850 said:
Oh yea, then why haven't we been able to get one? Some think you can just plug a guy in as a guard and be successful. That's a faulty line of thinking. You can do that and be average or below, but as we've seen the past few years, an average line gets you nowhere. We need to stop trying to plug in useless players at guard and get a young talented guard that will be there for years. You'd be amazed how much better our running game would be if we did this. By the way, if guards are so easy to come by, then why is everyone pandering for high-priced free agent guards?

who is everyone? I'm sure somebody will pay Dielman and Steinbach alot of money, but it doesnt mean either is worth it

and just food for thought, but what rd was Dielman drafted in again?...what about the team thats had the best pair of guards in football for the past few yrs, the KC Chiefs...know where those guys were drafted? San Diego's line is great, how many high draft picks start on that line? New England when they were winning super bowls? Dallas?

David
 

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Sure you can get good OL in rounds 2 and down. Larry Allen was a second round pick. Erik Williams was a third round pick. Nate Newton and Mark Tuieni were free agents. You can go on and on. However, just as many of these picks don't pan out. It's a crap shoot. I'd rather take very highly rated guys at the position where we need the most improvement rather than take a chance on a possibility in later rounds. We're just a couple of pieces from a Super Bowl team and OL is one of the biggest pieces. I'd like to address it now.
 

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By the way, who is everyone? Have you been reading this board? Who is everyone? Just about every damn person posting on here.
 

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dbair1967;1389864 said:
what about the team thats had the best pair of guards in football for the past few yrs, the KC Chiefs
Briain Waters - undrafted

Will Shields - 3rd round, 18th pick
 

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big dog cowboy;1389884 said:
Briain Waters - undrafted

Will Shields - 3rd round, 18th pick

bingo...and we actually had Brian Waters in our TC I believe...he was either a TE or FB I think at one time

but he grew, got great coaching and turned into a great OL

David
 

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dbair1967;1389894 said:
bingo...and we actually had Brian Waters in our TC I believe...he was either a TE or FB I think at one time

Now that's a GOOD memory, David... who knew back then that he'd turn into such a good lineman??
 

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silverbear;1389902 said:
Now that's a GOOD memory, David... who knew back then that he'd turn into such a good lineman??

we missed the boat on him, thats for sure

but so did everyone other than the Chiefs

David
 

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dbair1967;1389864 said:
who is everyone? I'm sure somebody will pay Dielman and Steinbach alot of money, but it doesnt mean either is worth it

and just food for thought, but what rd was Dielman drafted in again?...what about the team thats had the best pair of guards in football for the past few yrs, the KC Chiefs...know where those guys were drafted? San Diego's line is great, how many high draft picks start on that line? New England when they were winning super bowls? Dallas?

David

You don't have to take a guard in the first round to get a quality one.

Only two guards have gone in the top 20 in the last ten years. And that was Hutchinson (17) and Naeole (10). There is a reason for that. You can and should be able to find them later because they can be groomed. It is not like offensive tackle, where you better find a quality one as early as possible.
 

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You guys are making some great points about the offensive line and drafting an olineman.

Blalock will be drafted in the first round simply because he has started every game at a big time college...played on a championship team...anchored a high power offense...did I mention he started 56 consecutive games at guard and tackle. He has the right measureables for guard (just a tad short for tackle but passable) and showed enormous strength benching 225 forty times.

The combine is all about the workout and attitude that will push a 2nd/3rd rounder into the top 25 in the first round. I am all for drafting Blalock because he will be here for years to come.

We actually dont need a "tweener" because we have all the LBs we can use.
Ellis is the outside LB and Carpenter is too. We can get a back-up inside LB in FA but this team must play the players they got and allow a new system to work.

Thats why we dont need to draft a FS because Watkins must be given a fair shot for the position with a new system and new coach. We dont need to draft a first round WR because he will get lost on the bench behind Owen,Glenn, and Crayton.

What we do need to draft is an Olineman/DT and NG/ and/or CB. These are primary needs that the Cowboys have. Blalock could push Kosier out to backup if the Cowboys did sign a FA guard.

DT should be a major concern because Ferguson is not long term and needs a capable backup. Ratliff is not the answer.

CB will also be a good selection but they can be like WR and need time to develop. First round may be stretching it but I would feel better knowing we have someone grooming to be good than knowing this is Glenn last season and he is 50/50 in coverage. Let's face, Aaron Glenn needs to be cut before training camp and allow someone else to play. I know some of you think because he is a great guy and all that he should be given a pass on the times he was beat, and beat bad! But it is time for him to retire and let someone else come in and play!
 

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dbair1967;1389903 said:
we missed the boat on him, thats for sure

but so did everyone other than the Chiefs

David

That's one of those "if I knew then what I know now" kind of deals... ahhh, hindsight, ain't it GREAT?? LOL...
 

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Steve Hutchinson was a first rounder and he's excellent.

While I'd prefer to go after guards in the later rounds, if you find a good guard in the first round, it's hard to argue with picking him.

Anyway, Dallas could use a Darren Colledge type. A guy who played left tackle in college and the Packers used him at left guard. He wasn't great at left guard, but he was better than what Rivera has provided us and when Flozell is done with the team, we could then move that player back to his natural position of left tackle.

Either that or sign Steinbach and draft a true left tackle. Then you could have Colombo (who we still need to re-sign), Kosier, Steinbach, McQuistan, and the draft pick all challenge for the left tackle spot when Flozell is done (both Kosier and Steinbach have left tackle experience in this league)



YAKUZA
 

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The bottom line is that we cannot continue to ignore the OL. It will end up biting us in the a** if we do. By the way, I just don't understand this line of thinking. Some of you would rather break the bank by signing what will be a very high priced free agent guard (Steinbeck or Dielman) that was undrafted to begin with, than draft a very highly rated YOUNG one in the first round? That I don't quite understand.
 

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We've been over this before.................

Davin Joseph - #23 Stud, 1 year, 12 starts (camp injury)


Logan Mankins - #32 Stud. Super Bowl winner, 2 years, 32 starts


Chris Snee - #34 Stud, 3 years 43 starts


Eric Steinbach - #33 Stud, 4 years 62 starts, This year's prized possession OG in FA


Kendall Simmons - #30 Stud. Super Bowl winner, 5 years, 60 starts (missed 04)


Steve Hutchison - #17 Stud. Super Bowl, 6 years, 84 starts, 5 Pro Bowls


Mike Wahle - 2nd round comp pick Stud, 9 years, 112 starts, 1 Pro Bowl


Alan Faneca - #26 Stud. Super Bowl winner, 9 years, 137 starts, 7 Pro Bowls


Chris Naeole - #10 Stud, 10 years, 142 starts


Ross Verba - #30 Former stud LT and OG, 10 years, 107 Starts, morphing into Bison Dele


Pete Kendall - #21 Stud. 11 years, 156 starts (This is Eric Steinbach's future).


Jeff Hartings - #23 Stud. Super Bowl winner, 11 years, 160 starts, 2 Pro Bowls


Jermane Mayberry - #25 Very, very solid. Super Bowl. 11 years, 104 starts, 1 Pro Bowl


Shawn Andrews - #16 Stud. 3 years, 33 starts, 2 Pro Bowls

Ruben Brown - #14 Stud. 12 years, 173 starts, Super Bowl, 8 Pro Bowls

Matt O'Dwyer -#33 solid. 10 years, 105 starts, Jets 1998 AFC Title game member
 

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I just heard on the NFL Network that Blaylock scored 1170 (I think it was, but I know it was way over 1100) on his SAT in the 7th grade. Good and smart. Now that I like.
 
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