What Exactly Makes Dez Bryant a Headcase?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Basically I see where he skipped some workouts where he apparently was sick/injured and I see where he lied to the usuring, totalitarian regime that is the NCAA about talking to Sanders.


Now don't get me wrong I loathe the idea that we might draft a WR in the first but if he is only guilty of the above then this idea that he is going to freefall just sounds preposterous.

Is there something that I am missing?

 

[CanuckCowboysFan]

Apparently, he always showed up to practices and games very late, and he showed up to practice drunk, lmao. I don't know how true that is but w.e, I still want him, he's a player.

 

[dbair1967]

Basically I see where he skipped some workouts where he apparently was sick/injured and I see where he lied to the usuring, totalitarian regime that is the NCAA about talking to Sanders.


Now don't get me wrong I loathe the idea that we might draft a WR in the first but if he is only guilty of the above then this idea that he is going to freefall just sounds preposterous.

Is there something that I am missing?

I must admit I am curious as well. If it stems mostly from the Deion stuff, probably about 90% or more of the world said the NCAA was incredibly unjust in their ruling.

I saw him play a few times, and he's pretty impressive. I think he also has had alot of success as a punt returner, I think he has 3 punt returns for tds on only like 25 returns. Also did some kickoff returns.

I still think there's no way he's anywhere near us at 27 though. If he runs 4.55 or better, I doubt he gets out of the top-20 unless some really disparaging stuff comes out.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Basically I see where he skipped some workouts where he apparently was sick/injured and I see where he lied to the usuring, totalitarian regime that is the NCAA about talking to Sanders.


Now don't get me wrong I loathe the idea that we might draft a WR in the first but if he is only guilty of the above then this idea that he is going to freefall just sounds preposterous.

Is there something that I am missing?

Here is some more you may not be aware of; the notes below are all stuff from different sources, none of it mine, because i only know of his heroics catching the ball when he was playing for the lufkin panthers, i do know some other stuff but i wont go into that;

Reports by independent investigators at the NFL combine showed that Bryant is late for meetings, practices and games. He also left the combine early. Gambling experts revealed that Bryant did poorly in interviews and alienated teams.http://www.nflgambling.org/nfl-gambl...e-nfl-draft/13

And I get my information from a player on the team that said Dez would come to practice drunk some times. He said he was still the most impressive person there even while drunk, but what I took from it was not that he was so talented that even while drunk he was the best player, but that he was drunk at practice.

Hearing this in conjunction with all the other rumors he obviously has a problem. The rumors going around about him don't start unless there is something to them. The people reporting these have access to NFL personnel.

then you add in that he came in overweight at combine, and couldnt run, then he put his proday back 5 extra days; those are red flags,

then go to this link below tells about his troubled life growing up, you have to realize, when NFL teams draft you, they check your background, even way back to your high school etc....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/sports/ncaafootball/25okstate.html?_r=1&ref=sports

click on the link above

 

[cowboyjoe]

I must admit I am curious as well. If it stems mostly from the Deion stuff, probably about 90% or more of the world said the NCAA was incredibly unjust in their ruling.

I saw him play a few times, and he's pretty impressive. I think he also has had alot of success as a punt returner, I think he has 3 punt returns for tds on only like 25 returns. Also did some kickoff returns.

I still think there's no way he's anywhere near us at 27 though. If he runs 4.55 or better, I doubt he gets out of the top-20 unless some really disparaging stuff comes out.

this tells how talented he is, and he is, he grew up in the town i live in Lufkin

October 25, 2008, 2:16 pm
A Born Receiver, With Hands to Prove It
By THAYER EVANS
Talk to those who know Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant and they’re almost guaranteed to rave about the size of his hands.

Jody Anderson, who taught Algebra II to Bryant during his senior year at Lufkin High School in Texas, said: “His hands, you can’t imagine. If Michael Phelps was built to swim, this boy is built to receive a football. He has phenomenal hands. They’re huge.”

“Next time he comes to school to visit, I plan on putting his hands down on the copy machine,” she added.

Lufkin Coach John Outlaw said: “He has an unbelievable left hand. He’s got a paw. The guy can catch a football unbelievable. He’s got the most amazing left I’ve ever seen.”

Oklahoma State’s co-offensive coordinator Gunter Brewer said: “He’s just freaky in how big his hands are and how strong they are. They seem like big oven mitts.”

Houston Coach Kevin Sumlin, who recruited Bryant for Oklahoma: “His hands are absolutely huge. They are absolutely huge.”

Angela Bryant, Bryant’s mother, said: “I be messing with him and tell that he got monkey hands because they’re long.”

 

[CanuckCowboysFan]

I must admit I am curious as well. If it stems mostly from the Deion stuff, probably about 90% or more of the world said the NCAA was incredibly unjust in their ruling.

I saw him play a few times, and he's pretty impressive. I think he also has had alot of success as a punt returner, I think he has 3 punt returns for tds on only like 25 returns. Also did some kickoff returns.

I still think there's no way he's anywhere near us at 27 though. If he runs 4.55 or better, I doubt he gets out of the top-20 unless some really disparaging stuff comes out.

I think the farthest he drops is 21 to Cincy, or 22 to NE. To get to 21, 27 and Martellus would do it, lmao. To get to 22, 27 and spears would.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Look about 10 threads down regarding him pushing back his pro day.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I think the farthest he drops is 21 to Cincy, or 22 to NE. To get to 21, 27 and Martellus would do it, lmao. To get to 22, 27 and spears would.

i see him falling anwhere from 17th to 21st pick,remember thats where players with troubled history or lack of speed etc or size fall
Sapp dT for tampa bay went to 17th pick i believe
emmitt smith fell to 17th
randy moss fell to 21st pick

i think the cowboys are covering themselves in case he does fall and i think he will

remember first 3 players cowboys visited were trent williams, jason fox and dez bryant,

he might even fall down to the 25th pick or fall down to us, but i put the 17th to 21st there, because some team might trade up above us to get dez if they feel he is worth it, i heard through the grapevine the chargers are interested in another player, and that the packers have plenty of wrs as you know,


now the cowboys have him coming in april 1st;

 

[cboyd]

The only questions about Dez are his suspension and why he postpone his pro-day workout and thats it. Cowboyjoe and I already had a long argument about this a few threads down and about his sources. You can go ahead and read all you want. It talks about what rumors are out there and whether or not if they are true.

 

[NeonDeion21]

It was also reported on Profootballtalk.com that he can't read and grew up in a drug house with a crack addict for a mom.

 

[cboyd]

Here is some more you may not be aware of; the notes below are all stuff from different sources, none of it mine, because i only know of his heroics catching the ball when he was playing for the lufkin panthers, i do know some other stuff but i wont go into that;

Reports by independent investigators at the NFL combine showed that Bryant is late for meetings, practices and games. He also left the combine early. Gambling experts revealed that Bryant did poorly in interviews and alienated teams.http://www.nflgambling.org/nfl-gambl...e-nfl-draft/13

And I get my information from a player on the team that said Dez would come to practice drunk some times. He said he was still the most impressive person there even while drunk, but what I took from it was not that he was so talented that even while drunk he was the best player, but that he was drunk at practice.

Hearing this in conjunction with all the other rumors he obviously has a problem. The rumors going around about him don't start unless there is something to them. The people reporting these have access to NFL personnel.

then you add in that he came in overweight at combine, and couldnt run, then he put his proday back 5 extra days; those are red flags,

then go to this link below tells about his troubled life growing up, you have to realize, when NFL teams draft you, they check your background, even way back to your high school etc....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/sports/ncaafootball/25okstate.html?_r=1&ref=sports

click on the link above

Ok incorrect, first off you already know how incorrect I think your sources are but to lie and say that you know a player on the team. You got that information from some other zoner who claimed that he knew a friend on the team and his sources were just about a legit as mine when I said that I knew some people who worked at the practices who said that Dez is a stand up guy and there was never reports of coming to practice drunk.

 

[cowboyjoe]

It was also reported on Profootballtalk.com that he can't read and grew up in a drug house with a crack addict for a mom.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/sp...r=1&ref=sports
read the link above

He can read, trust me,
Jody Anderson, who taught Algebra II to Bryant during his senior year at Lufkin High School in Texas, said: “His hands, you can’t imagine. If Michael Phelps was built to swim, this boy is built to receive a football. He has phenomenal hands. They’re huge.”


He just has had a tough life without no tough parental supervision around him to toe the mark, or a tough high school head coach to make him toe the mark.

he just needs to grow up, realize that God has given him a talented football body and to appreciate God, give him the glory, while working hard, it wont be given to him on a silver platter he has to work and work hard,

 

[SLATEmosphere]

yawn. another Dez Bryant thread.

Merge this with the 20 others please.

 

[NeonDeion21]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/sp...r=1&ref=sports
read the link above

He can read, trust me,
Jody Anderson, who taught Algebra II to Bryant during his senior year at Lufkin High School in Texas, said: “His hands, you can’t imagine. If Michael Phelps was built to swim, this boy is built to receive a football. He has phenomenal hands. They’re huge.”


He just has had a tough life without no tough parental supervision around him to toe the mark, or a tough high school head coach to make him toe the mark.

he just needs to grow up, realize that God has given him a talented football body and to appreciate God, give him the glory, while working hard, it wont be given to him on a silver platter he has to work and work hard,

Agreed, he is built to be a WR in this league. I just hope he can get his head on straight because I'm pulling for this guy.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

yawn. another Dez Bryant thread.

Merge this with the 20 others please.

yawn. slate whining again.

go choose another free agent du jour and start whining about how we need to sign him .

 

[cowboyjoe]

Agreed, he is built to be a WR in this league. I just hope he can get his head on straight because I'm pulling for this guy.

yeah dont misunderstand me, im pulling for him to since he is from lufkin, im just hestitant alittle, but what i would do and what all general managers or owners should do is what they are doing now

setting up more interview, see how dez improves to run, etc,
see how his college coach and high school talk about him when you talk to them, and you trust your scouts, you just have to hit on this first round draft choice, but thats why you have your scouts.

just like remember 2005, remember when we drafted ware,but cowboys were interested in lights out shawn merriman? well parcells called his high school coahc and had a little talk with him, then the cowboys chose ware,

you have to do your homework, like i tried to explain and explain to someone but he woudnt listen, because your accountable when you draft that person and if you miss, it sets you back 3-4 years.

just like when we gave up a number one and 3rd for roy williams wr, or when we traded our first round draft choice to cleveland for them to select brady quinn, that gm isnt there any more or either is their head coach

you have to be accountable and do your homework, but take best player available, and if your scouts say dez is ok,,then you do it, but if they say otherwise and other coaches that coached dez say different, then you dont,

thats the way i would do it, i want him to succeed because he is from lufkin, and our players that have been drafted by the nfl havent made it
reggie mcneal got with wrong crowd and did drugs, but drafted
javorski lane, same thing, got with wrong crowd and balloned up to 300 didnt get drafted
terrence kiel,drafted by chargers, got into drugs, etc, got killed in car wreck

its hard to overcome in life when you get with the wrong crowd, or grew up in it, but you can overcome it if you put your mind to it, you have to want to and grow up

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So basically we have a guy saying that he knows a guy that says that Bryant was drunk at practive. His mother was a crackhead. Gambling experts say he was poor in interviews.

Its all either hearsay or complete BS.

As for the drunk thing I have two big questions. First of all how is it that the coaching staff didn't know or didn't do anything and how is it that no one else knows.

He really couldn't have been that drunk. I am sure we have all seen people that are wasted before. Its pretty obvious. So was he just having a drink or two before practice or was he coming to practice in the morning after tying one off?

Now I will say something. If it is true that he has a drinking problem then you really don't want to have anything to do with him. Pacman has a drinking problem and if you review all of his incidents he was drinking in all of them. He got into his first altercation at a bar spitting on a girl when he was 21.

Now PacMan is an angry drunk but really if he is drinking to the point where he is doing it at practice I am very very surprised that the only source we are hearing it from is a messaqge board.

Now cover2 don't take me saying that the wrong way. I am not making any personal judgement on you in any way shape or form. I just don't know you and I certainly don't know youre source. It just seems odd.

On a final note I am glad that he lied to the NCAA. He made them millions of dollars putting butts in seats and from TV revenue and they gave him what equates to about $40k a year.

Screw them.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

yeah dont misunderstand me, im pulling for him to since he is from lufkin, im just hestitant alittle, but what i would do and what all general managers or owners should do is what they are doing now

setting up more interview, see how dez improves to run, etc,
see how his college coach and high school talk about him when you talk to them, and you trust your scouts, you just have to hit on this first round draft choice, but thats why you have your scouts.

just like remember 2005, remember when we drafted ware,but cowboys were interested in lights out shawn merriman? well parcells called his high school coahc and had a little talk with him, then the cowboys chose ware,

you have to do your homework, like i tried to explain and explain to someone but he woudnt listen, because your accountable when you draft that person and if you miss, it sets you back 3-4 years.

just like when we gave up a number one and 3rd for roy williams wr, or when we traded our first round draft choice to cleveland for them to select brady quinn, that gm isnt there any more or either is their head coach

you have to be accountable and do your homework, but take best player available, and if your scouts say dez is ok,,then you do it, but if they say otherwise and other coaches that coached dez say different, then you dont,

thats the way i would do it, i want him to succeed because he is from lufkin, and our players that have been drafted by the nfl havent made it
reggie mcneal got with wrong crowd and did drugs, but drafted
javorski lane, same thing, got with wrong crowd and balloned up to 300 didnt get drafted
terrence kiel,drafted by chargers, got into drugs, etc, got killed in car wreck

its hard to overcome in life when you get with the wrong crowd, or grew up in it, but you can overcome it if you put your mind to it, you have to want to and grow up

I never heard anything about this supposed call to Merriman's HS coach. Everything I have heard is that a) he wanted Spears first and b) he wanted Merriman.

 

[cboyd]

So basically we have a guy saying that he knows a guy that says that Bryant was drunk at practive. His mother was a crackhead. Gambling experts say he was poor in interviews.

Its all either hearsay or complete BS.

As for the drunk thing I have two big questions. First of all how is it that the coaching staff didn't know or didn't do anything and how is it that no one else knows.

He really couldn't have been that drunk. I am sure we have all seen people that are wasted before. Its pretty obvious. So was he just having a drink or two before practice or was he coming to practice in the morning after tying one off?

Now I will say something. If it is true that he has a drinking problem then you really don't want to have anything to do with him. Pacman has a drinking problem and if you review all of his incidents he was drinking in all of them. He got into his first altercation at a bar spitting on a girl when he was 21.

Now PacMan is an angry drunk but really if he is drinking to the point where he is doing it at practice I am very very surprised that the only source we are hearing it from is a messaqge board.

Now cover2 don't take me saying that the wrong way. I am not making any personal judgement on you in any way shape or form. I just don't know you and I certainly don't know youre source. It just seems odd.

On a final note I am glad that he lied to the NCAA. He made them millions of dollars putting butts in seats and from TV revenue and they gave him what equates to about $40k a year.

Screw them.

You are exactly right, there is no legit information on these rumors. I can tell you this as far of possibly answering your question. Mike Gundy the head coach have suspended players for their actions. You can ask Cox and Brandon Pettigrew. Gundy has also been known to kick players off the team for their actions. Now I will tell you this, Dez was suspended for one game his freshman year for being late to a meeting. Ever since then you never heard of Dez being late. Personally I don't think that Gundy would allow a player come to practice drunk and let him get a way with it. All you have to do is look at Gundys history dealing with players with problems.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I never heard anything about this supposed call to Merriman's HS coach. Everything I have heard is that a) he wanted Spears first and b) he wanted Merriman.

he did, was in one of the interviews after the draft\ and on dallas morning news on cowboys stuff, you just had to read deep in the cowboys draft stuff, i dont remember which coach it was, been awhile, whether it was the strength coach, or line coach, but it was one of his high school coaches,

never did say what the info was, but that just after parcells called the high school coach, that parcells changed his mind, if you remember, even merriman got mad at the cowboys because he said they told him they were going to draft him, but after the phone call, parcells changed his mind;