What happened to GOTI

[StarBoyz83]

There are two halves, no? It was a sluggish first quarter and good the rest of the way.

Of course the offense played its part but it was good enough to win.

The fact that you're trying to be purposely misleading about the number of drives they had really hammers home the point.

They scored 3 touchdowns on 6 drives. Teams average ~11 possessions per game. Back of napkin math - they score 30+ with a functional NFL defense.

20 points isnt good enough to win most games unless you have a great defense. Not misleading anything they had 4 drives in the 1st half. Technically 5 but they had no time. They were part of the loss like they were vs the packers. Never said it was all their fault just said they are part of the loss.

 

[Blackrain]

No preseason..

Takes a minute to get in the flow.

2 possessions 2 touchdowns in second half…

Agreed they should have played in preseason.
It does take time to build some chemistry and some flow.

Unfortunately the NFL is a really intolerant place for having to take time to get into the flow.
It's kind of one of those venues where you have to hit the ground running or be run the hell over.

We got run over . While we were getting in the flow we were getting punched in the mouth

 

[Blackrain]

There are two halves, no? It was a sluggish first quarter and good the rest of the way.

Of course the offense played its part but it was good enough to win.

The fact that you're trying to be purposely misleading about the number of drives they had really hammers home the point.

They scored 3 touchdowns on 6 drives. Teams average ~11 possessions per game. Back of napkin math - they score 30+ with a functional NFL defense.

They win the game with a functional quarterback that lives up to his bragging and drives the team down before halftime puts a touchdown on the board and takes his team into the locker room with confidence..

Instead your leader throws the interception at the worst time that turns the whole game and demoralizes the whole team.

Then the defense who's already struggling and let up the touchdown before halftime has to go back out on the field right after halftime and get beat on some more.

We need a leader who can recognize the gravity of the situation take hold and make everybody play above their heads pull the rabbit out of the hat once in awhile in big moments he just can't do it.

 

[zrinkill]

No one claimed the Cowboy offense is the greatest ever.

And their TD/posession ratio was fine last night.

Dak did

 

[Bigtex67]

Bass may have stepped up to do a descent job, but the rest of the OL? I have said since Day 1, it is still an issue.Dak made an awful pass, yes. GP looked disinterested as he did in a few games last year. Unless I am crazy, I read last night our O had the ball 2x in the 2nd half? I have also stated numerous times to the deaf community on here that to annoint this D based upon not 1 game together was insane, and outside of a play here or there, they looked outmatched...pathetic and couldn't tackle worth a damn. That goes for each and evrery member, including Downs outside of the one hit he almost killed Dart on, that was still completed. Hardly time to quit, but exepctations were out of control and delusional from the fan base on herre

I may be wrong, but I believe that Downs hit Dart and Dart fumbled the ball right into the hands of an offensive lineman who stumbled about 3 yards forward.

 

[stilltheguru]

What happened is Dak talks too dang much.

 

[LouBrown]

They win the game with a functional quarterback that lives up to his bragging and drives the team down before halftime puts a touchdown on the board and takes his team into the locker room with confidence..

Instead your leader throws the interception at the worst time that turns the whole game and demoralizes the whole team.

Then the defense who's already struggling and let up the touchdown before halftime has to go back out on the field right after halftime and get beat on some more.

We need a leader who can recognize the gravity of the situation take hold and make everybody play above their heads pull the rabbit out of the hat once in awhile in big moments he just can't do it.

This is stupid

 

[Adreme]

The OneDrive in the game that didn't end up in a touchdown for the Cowboys because Dak through a horrible interception and ended up in a touchdown for the Giants change the whole game.

And you flat out can't claim that you are the greatest offense there is and come up so small in that situation.

That decision making is completely unacceptable for a 10-year veteran making $60 million a year.

I have stuck up for Dak constantly but I can't in good conscience defend this type of bragging and that type of performance.

Your statement is not actually true about the INT. It was 3rd down on that INT and so an incompletion (which is all that was on the table) just results in a punt and about a 20 yard field position difference which considering the Giants went 55 yards in 28 seconds (and still had a timeout left) it would not have mattered.

Also to repeat the Broncos scored a TD on 35% of their drives in 2013 and they were the highest scoring offense in history which means they came up "so small" 65% of the time.

To rewind again though if you think top QBs dont make risky decisions that end badly then you do not watch other teams because if your standard they cant do that then there are no good QBs in the NFL and there never have been.

 

[LouBrown]

20 points isnt good enough to win most games unless you have a great defense. Not misleading anything they had 4 drives in the 1st half. Technically 5 but they had no time. They were part of the loss like they were vs the packers. Never said it was all their fault just said they are part of the loss.

They had 6 possessions. The average offense gets 11 possessions.

For the sake of argument, let's say they had 7. That's 2.86 points per drive.

In 2025, the NFL average was 2.23 points per drive, and LAR led the league at 2.80. In other words, Dallas' offense scored at a rate that would have been the best in the NFL last year, even if you include the 7th possession.

Can we at least try to be serious talking about how the offense played?

 

[jmnichols75]

Please explain how the Giants won with the same amount

Well, since both teams did that, and one of them has to win (I know, ties are possible, etc.), I guess it was the Giants that did so. Of course, more of that was due to starting the second half down by two touchdowns. But, as long we're talking about halves of the game in isolation...

 

[Rockport]

What happened to the greatest offense there is???

When you have the stones to make a claim like that you better be able to back it up.

You're paying a guy 60 million he's a 10-year veteran and he can't operate the 2-minute drill before halftime and throws up an interception off his back foot like some kid in high school.

You got Pickens dropping balls that are right in his hands.

Squandering opportunities like that changed the whole game you can't do that in someone else's stadium.

Between Pickens and Dak on that series you had $90 million of suck!!!
IT'S MORE LIKE WE HAVE THE GREATEST GROUP OF OVERPAID UNDERACHIEVERS.

Sorry I don't want to hear about it being the first game these guys aren't rookies they're supposed to be the leaders on this team absolutely elite players.

The only thing worse than this group of underachievers is our coaching staff unprepared no discipline still a hundred yards of penalties taunting personal fouls

Absolute junk product put out on that field last night.

Defended all you want play like that is taking us nowhere

Stay out of the game thread and watch the game. The Cowboys and TWO possessions in the 2nd half. Just TWO. Both ended in TD’s. In the first half it was penalties and dropped passes. I can tell you didn’t really watch the game and are just listening to the talking heads because if you were watching you’d have seen what I just laid out for you.

 

[StarBoyz83]

They had 6 possessions. The average offense gets 11 possessions.

For the sake of argument, let's say they had 7. That's 2.86 points per drive.

In 2025, the NFL average was 2.23 points per drive, and LAR led the league at 2.80. In other words, Dallas' offense scored at a rate that would have been the best in the NFL last year, even if you include the 7th possession.

Can we at least try to be serious talking about how the offense played?

I get what youre saying. They played good in the 2nd half. Not good enough in the 1st. We agreed they were part of the loss but it was more the coaching and defense. If the Defense played better it might have been a game though I agree.
The defense did good enough to win both sf playoff games and people still blame them. It was the mainly offenses fault for those 2 losses.
I just feel the offense always gets excused. There's a lot of games where it doesn't show up for half the game. Its a good offense but not great all the time.

I mean in the packers playoff game it was over before the 4th quarter. Because of the offense and mainly the defense.

 

[Blackrain]

Your statement is not actually true about the INT. It was 3rd down on that INT and so an incompletion (which is all that was on the table) just results in a punt and about a 20 yard field position difference which considering the Giants went 55 yards in 28 seconds (and still had a timeout left) it would not have mattered.

Also to repeat the Broncos scored a TD on 35% of their drives in 2013 and they were the highest scoring offense in history which means they came up "so small" 65% of the time.

To rewind again though if you think top QBs dont make risky decisions that end badly then you do not watch other teams because if your standard they cant do that then there are no good QBs in the NFL and there never have been.

There are none that are making 60 million and claim they lead the greatest offense there is that are making those kind of decisions.

If Dak is going to talk the talk then he has to walk the walk.
If at his stage of the game you can't throw that ball out of bounds I don't know what to tell you

 

[G2]

They win the game with a functional quarterback that lives up to his bragging and drives the team down before halftime puts a touchdown on the board and takes his team into the locker room with confidence..

Instead your leader throws the interception at the worst time that turns the whole game and demoralizes the whole team.

Then the defense who's already struggling and let up the touchdown before halftime has to go back out on the field right after halftime and get beat on some more.

We need a leader who can recognize the gravity of the situation take hold and make everybody play above their heads pull the rabbit out of the hat once in awhile in big moments he just can't do it.

That wasn't the worst time to through an INT. You seem a touch emotional.

 

[Cmac]

For perspective......intelligent perspective...................3 possessions that had time in the 2nd half......2 TDs...........what else could you expect? Giant Punter went home early to catch a re-run episode of Tracker.

 

[TheCoolFan]

"GOTI" is worse than "Hot Boyz" these self-appointed nicknames from the players are not the answer

 

[LouBrown]

I get what youre saying. They played good in the 2nd half. Not good enough in the 1st. We agreed they were part of the loss but it was more the coaching and defense. If the Defense played better it might have been a game though I agree.
The defense did good enough to win both sf playoff games and people still blame them. It was the mainly offenses fault for those 2 losses.
I just feel the offense always gets excused. There's a lot of games where it doesn't show up for half the game. Its a good offense but not great all the time.

I mean in the packers playoff game it was over before the 4th quarter. Because of the offense and mainly the defense.

"The offense performed at a near historic rate but they sucked in the playoffs 4 years ago."

Cool story

 

[Gambit]

They win the game with a functional quarterback that lives up to his bragging and drives the team down before halftime puts a touchdown on the board and takes his team into the locker room with confidence..

Instead your leader throws the interception at the worst time that turns the whole game and demoralizes the whole team.

Then the defense who's already struggling and let up the touchdown before halftime has to go back out on the field right after halftime and get beat on some more.

We need a leader who can recognize the gravity of the situation take hold and make everybody play above their heads pull the rabbit out of the hat once in awhile in big moments he just can't do it.

Miss me with this nonsense.

4 drops, including a dime in breadbasket right before the interception hurt even worse. Not stopping the Giants from scoring TD thst next drive or the one after half hurt worse.


Maybe letting the Giants rum the same pass play 4 times in a row with no one even close to flat receiver wasn't the best play and hurt worse.

Maybe only 8 minutes to over 20 minutes of TOP in 2nd half was worse.

 

[StarBoyz83]

"The offense performed at a near historic rate but they sucked in the playoffs 4 years ago."

Cool story

50% on possessions is historic? I'd say thats good. Not great. i get it looks good on the points per drive but they still didn't play good enough in the 1st half with that turnover.

 

[Adreme]

There are none that are making 60 million and claim they lead the greatest offense there is that are making those kind of decisions.

If Dak is going to talk the talk then he has to walk the walk.
If at his stage of the game you can't throw that ball out of bounds I don't know what to tell you

"Players are making more because the cap went up" is a bad faith argument.

But again your core argument is empty and pointless. Ball goes out of bounds and nothing changes. They still punt on the next play and there is maybe 20 yards difference between where the Giants started with it. They scored in 28 seconds (20 seconds to spare) with an extra timeout so it doesn't seem to matter but more importantly even IF they only get a field goal it does not matter because the Giants only scored TDs after. So the argument that "this mistake that would have changed nothing is why Dak fails" is a silly one.