What I did notice is this team doesn't give up

[mattjames2010]

There is no "allegedly" when it comes to the team giving up on Wade.

Look, Wade apologists, you may be able to get away with the revisionist history with your casual football fans on Facebook, but not here. The "giving up on Wade" is due to how the team played in the Giants, Jaguars, and Packers game.

Haha, trying to spin the 2010 season like it was on Garrett. News Flash: We went 5-3 when Garrett became interim, with a backup QB.

The crap some people post. It was 5 years ago, not 3 decades ago. We still remember the 2010 season. Hahahahaha

 

[daveferr33]

0-7, full stop.

This.

The bottom line is that Garrett failed the most important test of his coaching career.

This was a team with SB aspirations, with an elite QB and one of the best young offensive lines in the NFL, playing in a bad division.

All Garrett had to do was win two games. Heck, if he could have just beat the Giants (after a bye week and the Giants coming off a short week) this team would be in first place right now.

We used to expect these from our coaches:

Now we are happy just to get one of these:

 

[Everson24]

With the offense holding the ball longer, there are more opportunities to run the ball. With the offense holding the ball and he run game being effective, it makes the opposing defense become fatigued much sooner. The tired defense can't stop the run and bring up guys to help and then Romo goes over the top.

Then the defense if fresher and playing with a lead and games fall entirely different than they have been in the 7 game lose streak.

One of the main ways Tony Romo helps the running game is his ability to pick up 3rd and longs. This allows Linehan to run on first and second down without worrying about the drive stalling. Weeden and Cassel just could not convert 3rd and long plays and that wore the defense down.

 

[JW82]

I don't know what you were watching when the D disintegrated twice in overtime against Philthy and the Aints. When the Special teams stood there with their thumbs ..somewhere when Dwayne Harris ran untouched for a 101 yard return against The Giants, When they let a rookie QB march down the field like Joe Montana for the game winning score in Tampa. When the entire team failed to come back out from the locker room after half time against Atlanta.... guess if you don't get blown out you haven't quit? The bar is pretty low I guess.

 

[Doomsay]

This.

The bottom line is that Garrett failed the most important test of his coaching career.

This was a team with SB aspirations, with an elite QB and one of the best young offensive lines in the NFL, playing in a bad division.

All Garrett had to do was win two games. Heck, if he could have just beat the Giants (after a bye week and the Giants coming off a short week) this team would be in first place right now.

We used to expect these from our coaches:

Now we are happy just to get one of these:

LOL! the trophy for just showing up. In no world, other than the Jason Zone, is 0-7 considered to be a success at any level. The players didn't quit on Garrett, he quit on them by being cowardly unimaginative and unprepared.

 

[Redball Express]

Ag

You look at the eagles and laying down against the bucs.

We lost 7 straight, and could've easily quit. It would've been easy to do. Losing 7 straight is horrendous. For us though, Every game except the Pats was hard fought. Missing 1 and in half the games 2 of your biggest pieces was simply the difference in all of them games.

The locker room didn't give up on garrett for as much as we like to dog him. You have to admire and give him credit for that. at least.

Agreed.

I think that is really the reason we have any chance at all of getting back in the race.

Sure, Romo and Dez and the confusion at RB has been a big factor.

But the other 50 guys have played to the best of their abilities I think.

So now we see what happens.

 

[CATCH17]

You're high. Even with horrific backup quarterback play we were still within one score of our losses. That's good coaching to keep a team playing hard - especially this defense - in the face of adversity to keep games close.

You can't blame it all on the QB during those 7 losses.


Especially when your offensive coaching staff tells the defense what we are going to do the entire game.

Our playcalling was a huge issue over that 7 game stretch.




You try hard guys are probably the same people that think everyone deserves a trophy for their effort.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Woo hoo.. Moral victory, the team went 0-7 but didn't give up on Garrett, though they knew Romo was coming back..

Two years ago, the Cowboys got wrecked by the Bears and Saints, shattering all sorts of records in futility with their defense in particular.. Garrett was the coach..

So the Eagles gave up on Kelly, but ended up beating the Cowboys two weeks ago? So a team that gave up, beat the Cowboys?

Whatever fits your agenda...

....team was 12-4 a year ago with a very average defense, in fact it was pretty crappy.
I agree Garrett's philosophy is far too conservative without his QB, but to ignore that the team played hard during that losing stretch should not be dismissed.
Everyone's darling Ron Rivera was 3-8-1 at one point last year.

 

[khiladi]

....team was 12-4 a year ago with a very average defense, in fact it was pretty crappy.
I agree Garrett's philosophy is far too conservative without his QB, but to ignore that the team played hard during that losing stretch should not be dismissed.
Everyone's darling Ron Rivera was 3-8-1 at one point last year.

Because Romo wasn't injured... And the team has gone away from Garrett calling the plays when Romo is in..

It's becoming abundantly clear that Garrett's philosophy, outside when Romo is here saving the day, is built on going ultra-conservative and relying on the defense to get TOs to win the game.. And Garrett was suppose to be some offensive guru..

That's utterly ridiculous and a tremendous amount of pressure of the defense.. You need to put some pressure in an opposing offense to score and keep pace with you.

This philosophy may work once in awhile against bad teams, which is what happened in 2010, them not beating any competitive team, but it is very rare and it's especially rare against good teams. 5-3 was also a little odd, besides the flurry of TOs generated, because we had Kitna, who though wasn't a good QB, played outside the box and took risks outside the game plan. That was his MO throughout.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

From a statistical standpoint, the main thing to take away from the 7-game losing streak is that the team had the lead or was tied in the 4th quarter of 6 of those games with that many injuries and the suspensions to Hardy and McClain. Points margin has the strong correlation to success and for the Cowboys to get edged out of so many victories with injuries/suspensions to:

Romo
Dunbar
Dez
Leary
T. McClain
Gregory
Mincey
Sean Lee
R. McClain
Scandrick

Is a good sign for next year if they can get half of these players back. Particularly Romo and Dez.







YR

 

[khiladi]

There is no "allegedly" when it comes to the team giving up on Wade.

Look, Wade apologists, you may be able to get away with the revisionist history with your casual football fans on Facebook, but not here. The "giving up on Wade" is due to how the team played in the Giants, Jaguars, and Packers game.

Haha, trying to spin the 2010 season like it was on Garrett. News Flash: We went 5-3 when Garrett became interim, with a backup QB.

The crap some people post. It was 5 years ago, not 3 decades ago. We still remember the 2010 season. Hahahahaha

And yet Garrett couldn't go 2-5 with a team that he supposedly changed the whole culture to mesh his RKG philosophy and put his imprint on and and even supposedly brought in his own players, including rebuilding the OL.. Why you blaming him for losing now without Romo, when he did it in 2010?

You see how that works?

 

[mattjames2010]

And yet Garrett couldn't go 2-5 with a team that he supposedly changed the whole culture to mesh his RKG philosophy and put his imprint on and and even supposedly brought in his own players, including rebuilding the OL.. Why you blaming him for losing now without Romo, when he did it in 2010?

You see how that works?

Look, you tried spinning the 2010 and putting it on Garrett. That's what we are discussing here, you came out looking like a fool. Just stop. The team gave up on Wade, we got blown out by the freakin' Jaguars and it happened again against the Packers. We had players letting the opponent literally run right past them into the end zone during the Green Bay game, it was an embarrassment on national television. We had defensive players, Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, pointing fingers at each other while Phillips did nothing but facepalm.

The problem we had this year while Romo was out is not having a quality backup to replace him, Weeden is no Kitna and Cassel did what he could in a short amount of time. I don't care how you want to criticize Garrett this year, but don't even attempt to spin the 2010 season to fit your little agenda; I'll call you out every single time.

 

[Staubacher]

There is no "allegedly" when it comes to the team giving up on Wade.

Look, Wade apologists, you may be able to get away with the revisionist history with your casual football fans on Facebook, but not here. The "giving up on Wade" is due to how the team played in the Giants, Jaguars, and Packers game.

Haha, trying to spin the 2010 season like it was on Garrett. News Flash: We went 5-3 when Garrett became interim, with a backup QB.

The crap some people post. It was 5 years ago, not 3 decades ago. We still remember the 2010 season. Hahahahaha

5 years ago and still the Garrett gold standard. 5-3 in meaningless games

 

[khiladi]

Look, you tried spinning the 2010 and putting it on Garrett. That's what we are discussing here, you came out looking like a fool. Just stop. The team gave up on Wade, we got blown out by the freakin' Jaguars and it happened again against the Packers. We had players letting the opponent literally run right past them into the end zone during the Green Bay game, it was an embarrassment on national television. We had defensive players, Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, pointing fingers at each other while Phillips did nothing but facepalm.

The problem we had this year while Romo was out is not having a quality backup to replace him, Weeden is no Kitna and Cassel did what he could in a short amount of time. I don't care how you want to criticize Garrett this year, but don't even attempt to spin the 2010 season to fit your little agenda; I'll call you out every single time.

So Kitna is the gold standard of back-up QBs now... How come he didn't win with orton? I thought Garrett was a QB and a QB coach and so brilliant, yet he can't coach up QBs? I mean the guy even resorts to ages veterans.. What exactly does he do?

So we were that bad with our QBs that it overcame Garrett's own block-buster coaching, with his own RKGs and multiple years of Garrett-infused culture?

How come Weeden won in Cleveland of all places?

The Cowboys were 5-3 against scrubs, when they were already out of the play-off hunt.

Just give it up..

 

[khiladi]

5 years ago and still the Garrett gold standard. 5-3 in meaningless games

The funny thing about those three games he mentioned..

The Dallas offense, that Garrett was in charge of, with Rono turned the ball over a whopping 10 TIMES, while the defense game them six TOs..

And here Garrett is telling us the defense needs to produce TOs to give the offense more chances. I mean that's the very excuse he used when Rob Ryan was fired and he used it this year, with Jerry saying the same thing..

He couldn't even get a TD when Hardy got an INT in the red zone. Garrett probably blamed Hardy for not returning it into the end-zone.

This HC is a joke... Nothing has changed in reality. Same, stagnant conservative offense when Romo goes down, trying to rely on the defense to bail him out.. The alleged weakness of this team...

 

[Wizarus]

Look, you tried spinning the 2010 and putting it on Garrett. That's what we are discussing here, you came out looking like a fool. Just stop. The team gave up on Wade, we got blown out by the freakin' Jaguars and it happened again against the Packers. We had players letting the opponent literally run right past them into the end zone during the Green Bay game, it was an embarrassment on national television. We had defensive players, Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, pointing fingers at each other while Phillips did nothing but facepalm.

The problem we had this year while Romo was out is not having a quality backup to replace him, Weeden is no Kitna and Cassel did what he could in a short amount of time. I don't care how you want to criticize Garrett this year, but don't even attempt to spin the 2010 season to fit your little agenda; I'll call you out every single time.

It had little to do with Garrett and alot to do with Jerry threatening players' jobs. Wade isn't a good HC true, but he's not nearly as bad as people made him out to be. He's still pretty good as a DC, Garrett has no redeeming qualities anywhere outside of clapping as far as I know.

 

[mattjames2010]

So Kitna is the gold standard of back-up QBs now... How come he didn't win with orton? I thought Garrett was a QB and a QB coach and so brilliant, yet he can't coach up QBs? I mean the guy even resorts to ages veterans.. What exactly does he do?

So we were that bad with our QBs that it overcame Garrett's own block-buster coaching, with his own RKGs and multiple years of Garrett-infused culture?

How come Weeden won in Cleveland of all places?

The Cowboys were 5-3 against scrubs, when they were already out of the play-off hunt.

Just give it up..

We beat a division rival in Giants, and Colts in a shootout. We didn't beat "scrubs". As for Orton, he started one game for us before took off. He didn't start a game in nearly 2 years before that Eagles game.

Weeden won only 5 games with Cleveland. Oh, and he went on quite a losing streak in Cleveland as well. He's a loser.

 

[crashintonickdm]

Garrett deserves criticism.

But he didn't lose the locker room which would kill things going forward beyond this season which still isn't over yet

 

[DFWJC]

I know it's not popular to say around here, but I do think the players respect Garrett.
Maybe his game planning and game-day abilities are not what they should be (I'll leave that up to others to debate) but I think he has succeeded in getting players to buy into his philosophy of attacking the day-to-day grind to improve.

 

[mattjames2010]

Garrett deserves criticism.

But he didn't lose the locker room which would kill things going forward beyond this season which still isn't over yet

Yes, Garrett certainly does deserve criticism. He played a part in having Weeden as a backup to Romo and that is a major reason for our losing streak, I have no idea what he or Jerry saw in the scrub.

But it in no way has gotten to 2010 bad. I have never in my life been so embarrassed watching a sports team before, that Packers game is a shameful moment in Cowboys history. I could never be an owner, because after that game, I would have let players go right alongside Wade.