What I think happened at 10

[Cowboy4ever]

I don't think they had Pitts or Sewell as targets. I think they had 3 Defensive players they would have been happy with at 10 and they got 1 of them. I do not think that any offensive player was in their thoughts at 10, nor should they have been. In other words, if the OT, TE, were there to draft along with CB And LB , they would have drafted one of the of Defensive players over the O players. Glad they got at least one of the D players they wanted in that spot and picked up another pick in the process, sweet.

 

[Ken]

I have not heard any of that but these people backspin so I don't pay any attention to them anyway.

If he was the highest rated D player on their board, I think Quinn put him there and I do not underestimate Sean Lee's input to go along with that. And Sean Lee puts a lot of stock in tackling.

I really don't see all of the wailing about this pick when anyone considers just how bad the run D was last season. They had to start somewhere, this is just one piece of the puzzle.

Jerry stated he was their highest rated, Fish got a text from "inside valley ranch" after the press conference confirming that.

 

[Rockport]

I think at several points in the offseason, the FO had discussions concerning the draft, their needs, what constituted a good day one and under what conditions would they consider trading in either direction.

I think there were 5 players targeted that they had to come away with 1 of them and the worst case was that 4 of them would be gone by the 9th pick. The worst case happened but it wasn't the last player standing they thought it would be.

All thorough the off season, it was about 4 or 5 QB's, Sewell, Pitts and 3 WR's. The odds of 2 of the 3 D targets being gone were remote. And certainly not the 2 CB targets. The Cowboys had Pitts, Sewell, Surtain, Horn and Parsons as their top 5. And were reasonable sure Pitts and Sewell were gone.

Then on Tuesday, we began to hear rumbles that CAR and DEN might be eying the corners or some other team might jump into the top 9 for one of them but not both. On early Thursday, not only did I think they would be gone, so did the FO because they began to consider going up for 1 of them. The worst case scenario was developing.

Trading with the Eagles was the shocker of the 1st round for me but the Cowboys knew they weren't taking the last man standing; however, the team most aligned with Parsons in most mocks was the Giants, that was the risk. The Cowboys knew the Eagles would end up with Smith at 12 so letting them have him at 10 was nothing but a 3rd round pickup for them.

And what the Eagles did was of little matter, the Cowboys were looking at 0-5 on their targets in the 1st round.

I do not know if the CHI trade was offered to the Cowboys but going to 20 would mean they do not get any of the 5 targets in the draft and that is failure. Doesn't matter about the 1st round 2022 pick, since when did Booger look beyond the upcoming season? Just not his MO.

I think Parsons was firmly in that 5th spot and they centered most of their discussions around Horn v Surtain with Booger even making the comment about evaluating an opt out player.

Micah Parsons was the consolation prize, they really wanted one of the CB's and the only other option was to roll the dice on Farley and a 2nd on an injury risk is not the same as the 10th or 12th roll of the dice.

I think there is inherent risk with Parsons with his off the field behavior and that interview made him look as dumb as an email stamp. However, there is reward as well because he can hit and run better than anyone at LB now.

I really do not have a strong opinion about this pick but I do know any team with the 10th pick and facing losing out on their top 5 targets isn't a good thing especially when you consider every person in the free world was aware that the Cowboys needed D more than any other team. In 80% of the mocks, they were the first team to take a D player in the top 10.

Then, as drafts are prone to do, it began to get real 48 hours prior to the first pick and they did the best they could do.

My grade for them, not the pick but for them getting 1 of their top 5 is a solid A.

They had Parsons #4 overall on their board.

 

[Typhus]

I don't know...i am starting to think that Parsons was the target all along based on what is coming out. He was the highest-rated defensive player on the board for them, the info coming out that they were considering moving to 6 for HIM, not the corners.

The fact that he was one of the "dawgs" up high, along with Horn.

I see their order of preference as Parsons, Horn, Surtain...imo.

I love what they did.

Possibly, Im not doubting what you say to be true, I believed they were targeting Horn/Surtain, but had already established many options, rehearsed many scenarios, and Horn and Surtain were obviously being devalued in most mock scenarios.
It was a quick phone call from the Eagles, and you are absolutely right,, Parsons at that point was best man on the board with the 3rd rounder is bonus value for the ten,, Parsons had been mocked top ten nearly all offseason.
So I have zero issue with day one,,, looking really forward to day two...tonight is dynamite

 

[Rajveer]

I don't know...i am starting to think that Parsons was the target all along based on what is coming out. He was the highest-rated defensive player on the board for them, the info coming out that they were considering moving to 6 for HIM, not the corners.

The fact that he was one of the "dawgs" up high, along with Horn.

I see their order of preference as Parsons, Horn, Surtain...imo.

I love what they did.

What a billionaire does, thinks and what they say are totally different. Don't pay attention to anything they say after the fact. It is all an act to justify the pick. Hell they would pump their fist even if they picked a kicker as their first round pick and you would hear Jerrah talking all night about his legs.

 

[Typhus]

They had Parsons #4 overall on their board.

Show me the board and lets have a beer

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Should have traded up for Sewell or took Slater.
The injury bug will re-appear for Smith, Collins or both and the lack of quality OT depth will be exposed again.

Using that logic they should have traded up for Lawrence or Wilson, since the injury bug could reappear for #4 and the lack of a quality back up will be exposed again.

 

[Cowpolk]

I think at several points in the offseason, the FO had discussions concerning the draft, their needs, what constituted a good day one and under what conditions would they consider trading in either direction.

I think there were 5 players targeted that they had to come away with 1 of them and the worst case was that 4 of them would be gone by the 9th pick. The worst case happened but it wasn't the last player standing they thought it would be.

All thorough the off season, it was about 4 or 5 QB's, Sewell, Pitts and 3 WR's. The odds of 2 of the 3 D targets being gone were remote. And certainly not the 2 CB targets. The Cowboys had Pitts, Sewell, Surtain, Horn and Parsons as their top 5. And were reasonable sure Pitts and Sewell were gone.

Then on Tuesday, we began to hear rumbles that CAR and DEN might be eying the corners or some other team might jump into the top 9 for one of them but not both. On early Thursday, not only did I think they would be gone, so did the FO because they began to consider going up for 1 of them. The worst case scenario was developing.

Trading with the Eagles was the shocker of the 1st round for me but the Cowboys knew they weren't taking the last man standing; however, the team most aligned with Parsons in most mocks was the Giants, that was the risk. The Cowboys knew the Eagles would end up with Smith at 12 so letting them have him at 10 was nothing but a 3rd round pickup for them.

And what the Eagles did was of little matter, the Cowboys were looking at 0-5 on their targets in the 1st round.

I do not know if the CHI trade was offered to the Cowboys but going to 20 would mean they do not get any of the 5 targets in the draft and that is failure. Doesn't matter about the 1st round 2022 pick, since when did Booger look beyond the upcoming season? Just not his MO.

I think Parsons was firmly in that 5th spot and they centered most of their discussions around Horn v Surtain with Booger even making the comment about evaluating an opt out player.

Micah Parsons was the consolation prize, they really wanted one of the CB's and the only other option was to roll the dice on Farley and a 2nd on an injury risk is not the same as the 10th or 12th roll of the dice.

I think there is inherent risk with Parsons with his off the field behavior and that interview made him look as dumb as an email stamp. However, there is reward as well because he can hit and run better than anyone at LB now.

I really do not have a strong opinion about this pick but I do know any team with the 10th pick and facing losing out on their top 5 targets isn't a good thing especially when you consider every person in the free world was aware that the Cowboys needed D more than any other team. In 80% of the mocks, they were the first team to take a D player in the top 10.

Then, as drafts are prone to do, it began to get real 48 hours prior to the first pick and they did the best they could do.

My grade for them, not the pick but for them getting 1 of their top 5 is a solid A.

And they took the player I wanted

 

[CouchCoach]

Should have traded up for Sewell or took Slater.
The injury bug will re-appear for Smith, Collins or both and the lack of quality OT depth will be exposed again.

They at least have players in those positions, they're really hurting on the D side.

 

[Walker]

I do not know if the CHI trade was offered to the Cowboys but going to 20 would mean they do not get any of the 5 targets in the draft and that is failure. Doesn't matter about the 1st round 2022 pick, since when did Booger look beyond the upcoming season? Just not his MO.

If CHI offered us that deal then we are stupid to pass up on it for someone like Parson. That is like giving up two 1st rounders for this dude. Because we could have easily taken one of our extra 3rds + 4th rounder and move up to #14 and taken Parsons anyway. We would have the assets to move up back and take Parsons AND still get a 1st rounder out of it. What a draft that would be.

 

[Ken]

Possibly, Im not doubting what you say to be true, I believed they were targeting Horn/Surtain, but had already established many options, rehearsed many scenarios, and Horn and Surtain were obviously being devalued in most mock scenarios.
It was a quick phone call from the Eagles, and you are absolutely right,, Parsons at that point was best man on the board with the 3rd rounder is bonus value for the ten,, Parsons had been mocked top ten nearly all offseason.
So I have zero issue with day one,,, looking really forward to day two...tonight is dynamite

I think the eagle's call was quick because they mentioned on the presser last night they talked with them about it a couple of days earlier.

 

[boro]

I think at several points in the offseason, the FO had discussions concerning the draft, their needs, what constituted a good day one and under what conditions would they consider trading in either direction.

I think there were 5 players targeted that they had to come away with 1 of them and the worst case was that 4 of them would be gone by the 9th pick. The worst case happened but it wasn't the last player standing they thought it would be.

All thorough the off season, it was about 4 or 5 QB's, Sewell, Pitts and 3 WR's. The odds of 2 of the 3 D targets being gone were remote. And certainly not the 2 CB targets. The Cowboys had Pitts, Sewell, Surtain, Horn and Parsons as their top 5. And were reasonable sure Pitts and Sewell were gone.

Then on Tuesday, we began to hear rumbles that CAR and DEN might be eying the corners or some other team might jump into the top 9 for one of them but not both. On early Thursday, not only did I think they would be gone, so did the FO because they began to consider going up for 1 of them. The worst case scenario was developing.

Trading with the Eagles was the shocker of the 1st round for me but the Cowboys knew they weren't taking the last man standing; however, the team most aligned with Parsons in most mocks was the Giants, that was the risk. The Cowboys knew the Eagles would end up with Smith at 12 so letting them have him at 10 was nothing but a 3rd round pickup for them.

And what the Eagles did was of little matter, the Cowboys were looking at 0-5 on their targets in the 1st round.

I do not know if the CHI trade was offered to the Cowboys but going to 20 would mean they do not get any of the 5 targets in the draft and that is failure. Doesn't matter about the 1st round 2022 pick, since when did Booger look beyond the upcoming season? Just not his MO.

I think Parsons was firmly in that 5th spot and they centered most of their discussions around Horn v Surtain with Booger even making the comment about evaluating an opt out player.

Micah Parsons was the consolation prize, they really wanted one of the CB's and the only other option was to roll the dice on Farley and a 2nd on an injury risk is not the same as the 10th or 12th roll of the dice.

I think there is inherent risk with Parsons with his off the field behavior and that interview made him look as dumb as an email stamp. However, there is reward as well because he can hit and run better than anyone at LB now.

I really do not have a strong opinion about this pick but I do know any team with the 10th pick and facing losing out on their top 5 targets isn't a good thing especially when you consider every person in the free world was aware that the Cowboys needed D more than any other team. In 80% of the mocks, they were the first team to take a D player in the top 10.

Then, as drafts are prone to do, it began to get real 48 hours prior to the first pick and they did the best they could do.

My grade for them, not the pick but for them getting 1 of their top 5 is a solid A.

Great write up

 

[Walker]

Jerry stated he was their highest rated, Fish got a text from "inside valley ranch" after the press conference confirming that.

The Cowboys were trying to move up to grab one of the other defensive players according to some reports, so if he was the highest rated, then why move up to grab another player?

 

[Rockport]

Show me the board and lets have a beer

 

[kevm3]

The fact that they didn't pick up LVE's option told you they had a high grade on Parsons... Whether or not they would have picked him if Surtain or Horn was there is another matter. It's possible they had Parsons graded higher than Surtain and Horn, but considered CB as a more valuable position or position of higher need and would have grabbed one of those two if they were available instead.

 

[charron]

I think they had 3 defensive players they had high grades on and fit a need but they also had 3offensive players they would consider based on talent. Leading upto the draft teams have called as normal to gauge what you would want to trade spots. The eagles had probably already talked to the boys. With the giants unlikely to draft parsons, you knew who the eagles would take and you didn't want him it was a no brainer. A free 3rd round pick and still get the guy you wanted that was still available.

 

[Ken]

I think if either CB had been there they would have taken them

I guess we will never know.

They are certainly saying that Parsons was the target all along. I didn't believe it at first but i am starting to believe it. They were very calculated in what they did, having discussed the trade down with the eagle's 2 days prior and knowing what the Eagles and Giants wanted.

Parson's at 11 was a risk though. Maybe they knew about the deal with the Bears and that the Giants would do it if there guy wasn't there?

Not sure, but I am happy with Parsons. We really stole potentially the best defender in this draft, imo.

 

[Jarntt]

I don't know what happened, but I like how it turned out...

 

[starfan1]

If this is true then I am even more concerned about the cowboys front office now than I was before the draft - and I was very concerned before. I had not seen a mock draft, draft rumor, or anything else to suggest Parsons would go in the top 10, and certainly not in the top 6. I think the Cowboys are just doing what they do best. The blow smoke, and make it snow as deep as possible, to hype or justify whatever they do. And if they thought Parsons would go that early, then why trade down with the Eagles to 12? Weren't they afraid someone would jump up and take this future Hall of Famer? Why not just stay and 10 and ensure they got the guy they targeted all along?

I don't care what the Cowboys say. Parsons was a consolation pick and if there were any other suitable options the Cowboys would have taken one instead of Parsons.

google them they are there Parson has been mocked below ten but also above ten. ive seen them with him going to Detroit as well as carolina and denver and us.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think at several points in the offseason, the FO had discussions concerning the draft, their needs, what constituted a good day one and under what conditions would they consider trading in either direction.

I think there were 5 players targeted that they had to come away with 1 of them and the worst case was that 4 of them would be gone by the 9th pick. The worst case happened but it wasn't the last player standing they thought it would be.

All thorough the off season, it was about 4 or 5 QB's, Sewell, Pitts and 3 WR's. The odds of 2 of the 3 D targets being gone were remote. And certainly not the 2 CB targets. The Cowboys had Pitts, Sewell, Surtain, Horn and Parsons as their top 5. And were reasonable sure Pitts and Sewell were gone.

Then on Tuesday, we began to hear rumbles that CAR and DEN might be eying the corners or some other team might jump into the top 9 for one of them but not both. On early Thursday, not only did I think they would be gone, so did the FO because they began to consider going up for 1 of them. The worst case scenario was developing.

Trading with the Eagles was the shocker of the 1st round for me but the Cowboys knew they weren't taking the last man standing; however, the team most aligned with Parsons in most mocks was the Giants, that was the risk. The Cowboys knew the Eagles would end up with Smith at 12 so letting them have him at 10 was nothing but a 3rd round pickup for them.

And what the Eagles did was of little matter, the Cowboys were looking at 0-5 on their targets in the 1st round.

I do not know if the CHI trade was offered to the Cowboys but going to 20 would mean they do not get any of the 5 targets in the draft and that is failure. Doesn't matter about the 1st round 2022 pick, since when did Booger look beyond the upcoming season? Just not his MO.

I think Parsons was firmly in that 5th spot and they centered most of their discussions around Horn v Surtain with Booger even making the comment about evaluating an opt out player.

Micah Parsons was the consolation prize, they really wanted one of the CB's and the only other option was to roll the dice on Farley and a 2nd on an injury risk is not the same as the 10th or 12th roll of the dice.

I think there is inherent risk with Parsons with his off the field behavior and that interview made him look as dumb as an email stamp. However, there is reward as well because he can hit and run better than anyone at LB now.

I really do not have a strong opinion about this pick but I do know any team with the 10th pick and facing losing out on their top 5 targets isn't a good thing especially when you consider every person in the free world was aware that the Cowboys needed D more than any other team. In 80% of the mocks, they were the first team to take a D player in the top 10.

Then, as drafts are prone to do, it began to get real 48 hours prior to the first pick and they did the best they could do.

My grade for them, not the pick but for them getting 1 of their top 5 is a solid A.

It was shocking to see Surtain and Horn picked immediately back to back right in front of us.

We( as in my close surrounding group) all were dumbfounded as it unfolded . And begin looking to move down .

Dallas did all they could after the fact their guys were gone. And rebounded very well in our opinion.

We have them A- . And that should increase pending what we do with the extra pick.