What I think happens on Wednesday

[zeromaster]

Yeah, like nobody said a word to those questioning Parcells...total and complete BS.

We have several posters who do nothing but post negatively about anything Cowboys...they know who they are.

We have several more that go out of their way to take on anyone with a strong voice...you know who you are.

Now we have several posters who have almost no post counts, that have been members for quite some time, that have now become very vocal...I suspect they are trolls.

The first I have no clear way of knowing what motivates them, but it does seem unhealthy to be a fan of something that causes you so much pain.

The second have low self esteem and need to feel superior.

The third always come out of the woodwork when something major happens.

Thank you, defender of all that is good and wholesome in the Zone. You who see through all subterfuge and calumny.


The mystery to me is how a high post count or frequent postings is supposed to equate to a discernible measure of real fan support, if a low post count indicates the opposite. Since no names are mentioned, how are the ignorant among us to know, unless we spend all day and night here, note-taking? IMO, real fan support falls more in the category of ticket and merchandise sales, in that order. That is direct support that the team gets the benefit of.

Living rooms, sports bars, the team feels none of that on game day. There is no special power that arises from that area that wills the team to better performance or decision making. As far as these boards go, we're all just offering opinions and in many cases venting to keep from doing damage to a loved one, etc.

I'd rather have a moderated version of that than some watered-down pro-organizational drivel, with little or no dissent, or worse a board that only ticket-holders frequent. But perhaps my post count is too low to know much. If so, that's fine by me.

 

[DLCassidy]

During Norv's interview, Singletary's name came up as Norv's choice for a possible DC.

The soonest we could get him into town was Tuesday.

We'll interview Singletary for both spots, just as we did with Bowles and Garrett.

On Wednesday Jerry will likely make the announcement that we are hiring both Turner and Singletary.

Our staff will most likely be:

HC-Turner

Ast HC Off-Sparano

Ast HC DEF-Bowles

OC QB-Garrett

DC-Singletary

I've never noticed extra layers of bureaucracy doing the federal government a whole lot of good. Why would it help in the NFL? For example, Singletary "runs" the defense but reports to Bowles? So if Singletary gets in Brady James face does Brady go up the other stairway to complain to Bowles? Sounds like too many chiefs to me. Or at the very least a plan to insulate Norv from much leadership responsibility directly with the players. Either way I don't like it.

 

[jazzcat22]

That HC-Turner part scares me. I think he is to soft "NICE GUY" to be a head coach!

Maybe that's the perception to fans, and may not be the real case.

 

[Cochese]

Maybe that's the perception to fans, and may not be the real case.

"Norv did not threaten players," guard Keith Sims said. "Some guys took advantage of him. Terry (Robiski) -- you're not going to take advantage of him."

Read my sig, Jerry Rice said that. Pretty damning coming from players too, eh?

 

[5Stars]

I do not mean to demean anyone by having that opinion. It's just my opinion, low post count, long membership, trollish tendencies and all.

I think that was a very good post, and that is exactely the way I'm thinking!

You don't come off as a troll at all, in fact, you should post more often!

Yes, the one thing about all this mess is that JJ (best owner in football) just scares me to death! That is what bothers me the most with a hire like Norv...

 

[blindzebra]

Thank you, defender of all that is good and wholesome in the Zone. You who see through all subterfuge and calumny.


The mystery to me is how a high post count or frequent postings is supposed to equate to a discernible measure of real fan support, if a low post count indicates the opposite. Since no names are mentioned, how are the ignorant among us to know, unless we spend all day and night here, note-taking? IMO, real fan support falls more in the category of ticket and merchandise sales, in that order. That is direct support that the team gets the benefit of.

Living rooms, sports bars, the team feels none of that on game day. There is no special power that arises from that area that wills the team to better performance or decision making. As far as these boards go, we're all just offering opinions and in many cases venting to keep from doing damage to a loved one, etc.

I'd rather have a moderated version of that than some watered-down pro-organizational drivel, with little or no dissent, or worse a board that only ticket-holders frequent. But perhaps my post count is too low to know much. If so, that's fine by me.

When I see joined 2005 with 12 posts, all today, all attacking everything, well...you do the math.

 

[blindzebra]

I've never noticed extra layers of bureaucracy doing the federal government a whole lot of good. Why would it help in the NFL? For example, Singletary "runs" the defense but reports to Bowles? So if Singletary gets in Brady James face does Brady go up the other stairway to complain to Bowles? Sounds like too many chiefs to me. Or at the very least a plan to insulate Norv from much leadership responsibility directly with the players. Either way I don't like it.

Sparano and Bowles know the offensive and defensive personnel and the fact that Jerry interviewed both and both are under contract leads me to believe that they are hanging around. Garrett and Singletary both lack coaching experience, and would be in the same boat as Bowles if we made him DC.

I threw Sparano in there, but I like the idea of having 3 talented, up and comming coaches like Bowles, Garrett and Singletary. Just look at the really successful organizations and they have a coaching tree. I see this as the beginning of ours.

 

[DLCassidy]

Sparano and Bowles know the offensive and defensive personnel and the fact that Jerry interviewed both and both are under contract leads me to believe that they are hanging around. Garrett and Singletary both lack coaching experience, and would be in the same boat as Bowles if we made him DC.

I threw Sparano in there, but I like the idea of having 3 talented, up and comming coaches like Bowles, Garrett and Singletary. Just look at the really successful organizations and they have a coaching tree. I see this as the beginning of ours.

I'm not saying what you said couldn't happen I just hope it doesn't. Make a decision and go with who can do the best job, if it's the guys we have fine, if not, let them go. I wear a belt and putting on a pair of suspenders isn't necessary, it just complicates matters. Just like keeping coaches around with vague titles just in case the guys you really want to run things aren't quite ready- that's a formula for tension and disension.

 

[Rack]

maybe you need to look at Belichick's record by season in Cleveland then

David

That's the most idiotic comparison you've ever made (so far).

If you think Norv is anywhere NEAR BB's league then you have truly lost it.


By your line of thinking, might as well bring back Dave Freakin' Campo.

 

[jimmy40]

During Norv's interview, Singletary's name came up as Norv's choice for a possible DC.

The soonest we could get him into town was Tuesday.

We'll interview Singletary for both spots, just as we did with Bowles and Garrett.

On Wednesday Jerry will likely make the announcement that we are hiring both Turner and Singletary.

Our staff will most likely be:

HC-Turner

Ast HC Off-Sparano

Ast HC DEF-Bowles

OC QB-Garrett

DC-Singletary

Two guys that have never been coordinators backed by a bad head coach. No way.

 

[jimmy40]

tha horribly inept frachise was in the playoffs every yr from 1985-1989

Belichick's records...6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, 5-11 in Cleveland

David

Didn't Cleveland move during Belichick's time there? It's amazing Belichick did that well.

 

[dbair1967]

Didn't Cleveland move during Belichick's time there? It's amazing Belichick did that well.

they moved after Belichick's last yr, and he wasnt rhe coach when they moved to Baltimore

David

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Did pictures of Tom Landry or Bill Walsh scare you?

Tom had that serious no nonsense look about him. Players respected coaches back then also. Don't even remember what Walsh looks like.

 

[jimmy40]

they moved after Belichick's last yr, and he wasnt rhe coach when they moved to Baltimore

David

which means Belichick had to deal with all the BS while they were still in Cleveland. Had to be the worst position a head coach has ever been put in.

 

[Rack]

which means Belichick had to deal with all the BS while they were still in Cleveland. Had to be the worst position a head coach has ever been put in.

I agree. Not to mention they had a lot of aging "Stars" on that team that needed to be replaced (Kosar, Mack, Slaughter, Minnifield).

But there's no doubt in my mind BB would of done BETTER then Norv did with that EXACT same Oakland team.