What I think happens on Wednesday

blindzebra

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Alexander;1348240 said:
Did you have a reason for this speech or would you like to address what I posted?

Addressing what you post is as useless as it was addressing a Nors post.

I can make point after point, and you deflect, spin, and resort to condescension to keep from actually discussing the issue. Let's just say Simon is a fitting pic for you to have.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1348239 said:
So your saying he diddnt make the playoffs? Thats what I thought.

He did make the playoffs with Washington, he nearly made it twice, so I guess that means you were wrong twice, and not just once, like I already showed.
 

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blindzebra;1348252 said:
He did make the playoffs with Washington, he nearly made it twice, so I guess that means you were wrong twice, and not just once, like I already showed.

They made the playofs once. In 6 years.

Does nearly making the playoffs count these days?!:lmao::lmao:
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1348266 said:
They made the playofs once. In 6 years.

Does nearly making the playoffs count these days?!:lmao::lmao:

Obviously, I need to explain things to you.

You said BB made it in year 3...he didn't.

Further BB made it just one time in his first 6 years too, so...

What was your point again?:rolleyes:
 

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blindzebra;1348280 said:
Obviously, I need to explain things to you.

You said BB made it in year 3...he didn't.

Further BB made it just one time in his first 6 years too, so...

What was your point again?:rolleyes:

Billichik made the playofs in his 4th year with a pathetic, inept team that was relocated the following year, the excuses for Turners pathetic career are completely and totally hollow.

But Norv ALMOST made the playoffs a few times, that has to count for something, right?
 

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blindzebra;1348246 said:
Addressing what you post is as useless as it was addressing a Nors post.

I can make point after point, and you deflect, spin, and resort to condescension to keep from actually discussing the issue. Let's just say Simon is a fitting pic for you to have.

And being a blind member of a pack of mindless prey is appropriate for you as well.
 

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On an intimidation scale I think this guy would take the cake:

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blindzebra;1347855 said:
During Norv's interview, Singletary's name came up as Norv's choice for a possible DC.

The soonest we could get him into town was Tuesday.

We'll interview Singletary for both spots, just as we did with Bowles and Garrett.

On Wednesday Jerry will likely make the announcement that we are hiring both Turner and Singletary.

Our staff will most likely be:

HC-Turner

Ast HC Off-Sparano

Ast HC DEF-Bowles

OC QB-Garrett

DC-Singletary
I'm not crazy about Turner as head coach,but I will support that.
 

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If you can't judge a coach by his record then what are supposed to judge him by? .411 winning percentage is nothing to be proud of and how about that Division record with the Raiders.....1-11.
 

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Rack;1348245 said:
He had better then 5-11 (cubed) talent.





Wow.

So now there's no difference between Belichik and Turner? BB's coaching wouldn't of made ONE BIT of difference? He would the EXACT same record Turner had?

Of course BB wouldn't of won a superbowl with that team, but to say "if Belichick had coached Oakland the same yrs Norv did, he'd have the same record Norv did" is completely insane.

If you truly believe that BB wouldn't of done BETTER with that team then Turner did then you truly don't know wth you're talking about.

maybe you need to look at Belichick's record by season in Cleveland then

David
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1348148 said:
BB coached Cleveland..you know that horribly inept franchise that got relocated? He took them to 11-5 and a playoff win in his 3rd year as a headcoach. It only took Norv how long to do that in Washington?

If Turner werent a part of the 92 team would you still be wearing his brown lipstick around the Cowboyszone?

tha horribly inept frachise was in the playoffs every yr from 1985-1989

Belichick's records...6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, 5-11 in Cleveland

David
 

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Thehoofbite;1348344 said:
If you can't judge a coach by his record then what are supposed to judge him by? .

His previous affiliations.

Or didn't you hear?

Norv coached for the Cowboys once. He can tell us stories about Troy and Emmitt, instead of Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms.
 

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dbair1967;1348399 said:
tha horribly inept frachise was in the playoffs every yr from 1985-1989

Belichick's records...6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, 5-11 in Cleveland

David

And he was a major success in his second go around.
All anybody that's in favor of Norv has to hang their hats on is Belichick.

Sorry, but Norv is no Belichick. Norv has a NINE year coaching record of his own and it's rather dismal.

Of course, we're told to throw out Washington and Oakland because "no one can win there". Well, just like you pointed out that Cleveland was in the playoffs from '85-'89, do I need to point out Washington's playoff appearances in the 80's and early '90's to show that someone actually can win there? Or how about the Raiders, who went to the Super Bowl in 2002?

Norv is what he is, a bad HC.
 

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blindzebra;1347855 said:
During Norv's interview, Singletary's name came up as Norv's choice for a possible DC.

The soonest we could get him into town was Tuesday.

We'll interview Singletary for both spots, just as we did with Bowles and Garrett.

On Wednesday Jerry will likely make the announcement that we are hiring both Turner and Singletary.

Our staff will most likely be:

HC-Turner

Ast HC Off-Sparano

Ast HC DEF-Bowles

OC QB-Garrett

DC-Singletary
Whats the difference between Asst HC-Off and OC? Isn't this a case of too many cheifs and not enough indians. Same with Asst HC/Def and DC?

So in other words if we have a head coach and an OC and a DC, why do we need two asst HC.....? I think this could cause a recipe for disater as 1 asst hc want to do something and the DC wants to do something else.

Just curious asI am not real familiar with coaching roles, but this seems redundant.
 

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blindzebra;1348226 said:
Yeah, like nobody said a word to those questioning Parcells...total and complete BS.

We have several posters who do nothing but post negatively about anything Cowboys...they know who they are.

We have several more that go out of their way to take on anyone with a strong voice...you know who you are.

Now we have several posters who have almost no post counts, that have been members for quite some time, that have now become very vocal...I suspect they are trolls.

The first I have no clear way of knowing what motivates them, but it does seem unhealthy to be a fan of something that causes you so much pain.

The second have low self esteem and need to feel superior.

The third always come out of the woodwork when something major happens.
Being a long-time member with a low post count and an almost certain troll, I probably should withhold any comment. After all, any true Dallas Cowboys fan or follower surely can find the time to rack up a more impressive posting record, regardless of his circumstances. A low post count is undeniable evidence of a lack of football knowledge or Cowboys interest. The real test of the former is the ability to compare Norv Turner to Bill Belicheck. The latter: I'm still working on it.

I have never been particularly anti-Jerry Jones. I appreciate that the aggressive approach he took when he purchased the team helped to create a great Cowboys dynasty. I've certainly never been anti-Cowboys, having been a fan from the days of Gaechter, Green, Renfro and Bishop to the days of Williams, Watkins, Newman and Henry, but I thought Parcells' tenure in Dallas was more successful than some judged it. Fine. There is room in the world for more than one opinion.

Jason Garrett's hire, I thought, was premature, but I understood there were mitigating circumstances. My feeling was and remains that, if the idea is for him to develop into the coach of the Cowboys, the smartest thing to do was to go ahead and name him to the position. I think even the appearance that a "lame duck" coach might be in place, somehow training his own successor, is a mistake.

But I can't look at a decision to hire Turner as anything other than a clear move by Jones to reassert his total dominance in the franchise, and I think it's a bigger mistake. I could be dead wrong. But I have yet to see any compelling evidence to suggest that I should think otherwise. The fact is, Jones' determined dominance of the franchise helped to cause a major slide in Cowboys' fortunes, post-Jimmy Johnson. It wasn't the only contributing factor, but it was substantial.

Now it appears that Jones is returning to that path, and I truly hope that I am wrong. But I can't imagine a reason to turn over the coaching duties to a guy who has, under three separate owners, in two separate cities, had such a dismal track record. Familiarity seems to be the major argument for making such a move, and I take that as evidence that Jones is, once again, determined not to have a strong head coach.

If that opinion makes me a troll, so be it. If having a low post count makes me a dolt, I have to live with it. If having an opinion makes me borish, that's life.

If Norv Turner is hired as coach of the Cowboys, I will wish with whatever portion of my heart belongs to football that he enjoys tremendous success, that he has the opportunity, one day, to be compared favorably to Belicheck. I will cheer as vigorously for the Cowboys as I did when Landry was the coach, and Johnson, and Switzer, and Gailey, and Campo, and Parcells.

I think Turner is a good man and has a good offensive mind. Friends who know Norv speak fondly of him. I do not think he has proven to be a good head football coach, and I think the odds are low that he will turn it around in Dallas. I think it will be especially difficult if Jones, once again, is the dominant figure in the franchise, including in the on the field product.

I do not mean to demean anyone by having that opinion. It's just my opinion, low post count, long membership, trollish tendencies and all.
 

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Wow, for a troll, that seemed remarkably lacking in personal attacks and rather substantial in content, subjective as it may be.

We must await Jed's decision, but not without comment.
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