What I would do with Claiborne after the season

[Manwiththeplan]

You know how it works......his cap hit would be 3m in 2017 and 5m in 2018....that is outstanding

People always focus on the worst case.......and that isn't even that bad

plan for the best, prepare for the worst

 

[Nightman]

plan for the best, prepare for the worst

Worst case we cut him and he has a 2m dead hit in 2019 and 4m in 2020

That is after having a starting 7m a year CB for a 3m cap hit in 2017 and a 5m cap hit in 2018

If you are so afraid of dead money hits(you shouldn't be) then pay full price the next 2 years....but that is not how contracts work

 

[Common Sense]

I don't know what to tell you guys......top CBs get paid and this offer is less than the middle range....it would be 24th in the league

Mo's play has improved greatly....you can rate him on his past draft status or judge him by the last 2 years..... I know I have done a 180 on him

I have no complaints about his level of play this year. I just don't believe in signing players with his injury history to long-term deals. If he ends up on IR this season, it means Mo is averaging about nine games a year over the course of half a decade. What's the point of saving a couple million or so each year if you're having to play his backup?

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

I have no complaints about his level of play this year. I just don't believe in signing players with his injury history to long-term deals. If he ends up on IR this season, it means Mo is averaging about nine games a year over the course of half a decade. What's the point of saving a couple million or so each year if you're having to play his backup?

I'll have big complaints about his level of play going forward, as it's fallen back to what his play level typically is, which is zero (on the bench with injury or just sucking). His first 7 games are now meaningless and should not be taken into consideration at all, especially since he's in a contract year. You simply do NOT trust those guys going forward. That wasn't what he truly is. THIS is what he is.

 

[Nightman]

I'll have big complaints about his level of play going forward, as it's fallen back to what his play level typically is, which is zero (on the bench with injury or just sucking). His first 7 games are now meaningless and should not be taken into consideration at all, especially since he's in a contract year. You simply do NOT trust those guys going forward. That wasn't what he truly is. THIS is what he is.

they don't take away the wins from the first 7 weeks.....they aren't meaningless and he was a big contributor.........my question is do you want him active or not active for the playoffs

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

they don't take away the wins from the first 7 weeks.....they aren't meaningless and he was a big contributor.........my question is do you want him active or not active for the playoffs

Yes, they are meaningless now. And I don't care if he ever suits up for us again. I'll expect him to tear his knee up on the stationary bike or something like the softie he always has been.

 

[Nightman]

Yes, they are meaningless now. And I don't care if he ever suits up for us again. I'll expect him to tear his knee up on the stationary bike or something like the softie he always has been.

great fans around here

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

great fans around here

This isn't Claiborne Zone.com.

 

[Nightman]

This isn't Claiborne Zone.com.

More like Uneducated Stick in the Muds.com

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

More like Uneducated Stick in the Muds.com

Or millennial player fanboy super homers.com if some had their way.

 

[Nightman]

I have no complaints about his level of play this year. I just don't believe in signing players with his injury history to long-term deals. If he ends up on IR this season, it means Mo is averaging about nine games a year over the course of h5ackup?

there really are no such things as long-term deals unless the guaranteed money is more than 3 years worth of contract......5/35m with 17m guaranteed is a two deal at worst at below market value

 

[Nightman]

Or millennial player fanboy super homers.com if some had their way.

Millennial?????....I forgot more football than you will ever know(you like old jokes so much)

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

Millennial?????....I forgot more football than you will ever know(you like old jokes so much)

Oh I'll just bet. The battle cry of a Madden fan.

 

[Nightman]

Oh I'll just bet. The battle cry of a Madden fan.

I haven't played Madden since I had the Nintendo your Mom gave me

 

[BigStar]

Give him a Sean Lee deal. Playing time incentives with the ability to get out of it.

With another injury he is going to hard pressed to find a better long term deal elsewhere and that type of deal would be better for him then another 1 year deal

Wonder if he would take it considering he showed so well this season? But CBs off injury aren't exactly hot in FA either. I could see him fetching 9/10 from a desp team; hope not.

 

[BigStar]

I figured we would offer him something similar to what we offered mike Jenkins. I don't remember Jenkins being injury prone but I may be wrong. Also using the franchise tag on Claiborne shouldn't be an option. I know we used it at least once on Jenkins.

Slight off topic question:

Jenkins vs Claiborne for their overall body of work of their ENTIRE tenure with the team, who ya got?

Jenkins unfortunately. Claiborne this season is surely making up for it and Jenkins was garbage his final year. Otherwise he was a pretty good CB for us from what I remember team didn't like him either training in FLA w/the injury thing. He wouldn't be considered a "Garrett" player; "thug" label and was also injury prone similar to Claiborne, etc.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Worst case we cut him and he has a 2m dead hit in 2019 and 4m in 2020

Not really, the contract you proposed, we'd have to cut him prior to that $9m bonus getting paid, so we would not be able to use the June 1st rule. It would be $6 million which is a lot

 

[Nightman]

Not really, the contract you proposed, we'd have to cut him prior to that $9m bonus getting paid, so we would not be able to use the June 1st rule. It would be $6 million which is a lot

you can designate 2 players as post June 1st cuts and cut them in March and it would have offset language for even more protection