What if Dak steadily gets worse by seasons end

THEHEREAFTER

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I would want to assess why there was a continued regression. Personally, I don't buy into the 4th round theory. When you're *that* good your rookie season there is likely to be some regression towards the mean the following season, but something other than that is a factor.

In 2002, coming off his first season as a starter, Tom Brady regressed a decent amount.





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Finally .. a little perspective. If memory serves me correctly the Pats went 9-7 and missed the playoffs in Brady's second year after that "magical" run.
 

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That can't possibly be the point. Dak has started 19 full regular season games. Romo sat back and studied for 3 years before he even got an opportunity. Why are you comparing Dak to 2014 Romo? Romo's 2006 was NOT as good as Dak's 2016. Romo has struggled MIGHTILY as times throughout his career. Was Romo more advanced as a passer once he got rolling? At this point in Dak's development, yes. The problem is you're only recognize the positive with Romo. How many times have we sat back and witnessed and disappointing Sunday afternoon with Romo at the helm? Romo has had us all pulling our hair out and yelling at the TV for various reasons if we're being honest. Again.. you're holding Dak to Romo at his best when the young kid is just starting his career. Show me a better first 19 starts? You're also viewing Goff/Wentz under a greener grass perspective. They were the first two overall picks. Lol... you're actually complimenting Dak with your standards but in a backhanded way.

AGAIN.. even if like you say Dak isn't half of what Romo was at his best.. WHAT NOW? IS ROMO COMING OUT OF THE BOOTH? IS HE ON THE TEAM. WHAT'S THE POINT? HE'S NOT ON THE TEAM. Maybe if we lost Dak for the season, you might actually appreciate the kid.
I never understood how some can only remember the good out of Romo and not the bad. I have a hard time separating the two.
 

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That can't possibly be the point. Dak has started 19 full regular season games. Romo sat back and studied for 3 years before he even got an opportunity. Why are you comparing Dak to 2014 Romo? Romo's 2006 was NOT as good as Dak's 2016. Romo has struggled MIGHTILY as times throughout his career. Was Romo more advanced as a passer once he got rolling? At this point in Dak's development, yes. The problem is you're only recognize the positive with Romo. How many times have we sat back and witnessed and disappointing Sunday afternoon with Romo at the helm? Romo has had us all pulling our hair out and yelling at the TV for various reasons if we're being honest. Again.. you're holding Dak to Romo at his best when the young kid is just starting his career. Show me a better first 19 starts? You're also viewing Goff/Wentz under a greener grass perspective. They were the first two overall picks. Lol... you're actually complimenting Dak with your standards but in a backhanded way.

AGAIN.. even if like you say Dak isn't half of what Romo was at his best.. WHAT NOW? IS ROMO COMING OUT OF THE BOOTH? IS HE ON THE TEAM. WHAT'S THE POINT? HE'S NOT ON THE TEAM. Maybe if we lost Dak for the season, you might actually appreciate the kid.

Why do you continue to come back with the same talking points that have already been addressed?

When someone says Dak isn't half of what Romo was, they aren't saying to bring Romo back. They are saying we downgraded significantly and that we can improve on the QB position. It is much harder to improve upon someone like Romo who was a top 10 and even a top 5 QB at times in his career.
 

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Finally .. a little perspective. If memory serves me correctly the Pats went 9-7 and missed the playoffs in Brady's second year after that "magical" run.

LOL

Yes, now we have to hope we get a Belichick as a coach and Dak turns into the freakin' GOAT.

Seriously dude, give me a break. Brady is the outlier of all outliers, stop comparing Dak to the GOAT.
 

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I never understood how some can only remember the good out of Romo and not the bad. I have a hard time separating the two.

Dude the Packers game.. in I believe 2013. where Rodgers was hurt and we built a monstrous first half lead.... only to blow it with mind numbing mistake after mistake. The game ended with a Romo walk off int.. The Detroit Disaster at home. Huge first half lead. 2 MIND NUMBING pick sixes leading to a complete meltdown. Not looking to bash Romo but some here completely dismiss his faults. ESPN used to call him the "Romocoaster..." and for good reason. I could go on and on with these types of horrific examples from the top of my head alone.
 
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Why do you continue to come back with the same talking points that have already been addressed?

When someone says Dak isn't half of what Romo was, they aren't saying to bring Romo back. They are saying we downgraded significantly and that we can improve on the QB position. It is much harder to improve upon someone like Romo who was a top 10 and even a top 5 QB at times in his career.

In his CAREER.. Dak is just starting one. Please let's just drop it or at least drop engaging me in convo. You and I are beyond conversation. It just doesn't work on this topic. Which is your ONLY topic.
 

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LOL

Yes, now we have to hope we get a Belichick as a coach and Dak turns into the freakin' GOAT.

Seriously dude, give me a break. Brady is the outlier of all outliers, stop comparing Dak to the GOAT.

Ok yeah.. THAT'S precisely what I was doing. Good points.
 

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When someone says Dak isn't half of what Romo was, they aren't saying to bring Romo back. They are saying we downgraded significantly and that we can improve on the QB position.

They're being disingenuous. Rookie Romo was terrible, peak Romo was good. The idea you'd get any rookie QB playing anywhere near peak Romo is taking stupidity to whole new levels. So you either get a rookie QB, accept that they're a work in progress, and build, or you go out searching for a veteran QB who'll demand a pretty penny that'll get the job done for a couple of years. I know which I'd rather choose.
 

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I never understood how some can only remember the good out of Romo and not the bad. I have a hard time separating the two.

I think Dak has helped me see the weaknesses and strengths in Romo as well as the weaknesses in our coaching staff.

We still struggle against the blitz when we can't run against it. We just don't have the ability/scheme/whatever to beat teams passing the ball with adjustments and hot reads against a blitz unless we run the ball well enough to scare them from blitzing.

I used to think that the reason we didn't dink-n-dunk well is because it went against Romo's strengths. I still think that is part of the cause, but I've come to believe that this particular scheme doesn't work unless you're running the ball somewhat well.

I think Dak is much better at throwing and setting up screens and is very good with some read option. But when we need to move the ball against a heavy blitzing team are only chance is those 13+ play drives to score. That may sound good, but that's so many plays that sooner or later that's going to trip you up. So it's not all about moving the ball efficiently in the dink-n-dunk mode...it's about getting that big play out of that mode. Then scaring opponents from blitzing in fear of giving up the big play.





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That can't possibly be the point. Dak has started 19 full regular season games. Romo sat back and studied for 3 years before he even got an opportunity. Why are you comparing Dak to 2014 Romo? Romo's 2006 was NOT as good as Dak's 2016. Romo has struggled MIGHTILY as times throughout his career. Was Romo more advanced as a passer once he got rolling? At this point in Dak's development, yes. The problem is you're only recognize the positive with Romo. How many times have we sat back and witnessed and disappointing Sunday afternoon with Romo at the helm? Romo has had us all pulling our hair out and yelling at the TV for various reasons if we're being honest. Again.. you're holding Dak to Romo at his best when the young kid is just starting his career. Show me a better first 19 starts? You're also viewing Goff/Wentz under a greener grass perspective. They were the first two overall picks. Lol... you're actually complimenting Dak with your standards but in a backhanded way.

AGAIN.. even if like you say Dak isn't half of what Romo was at his best.. WHAT NOW? IS ROMO COMING OUT OF THE BOOTH? IS HE ON THE TEAM. WHAT'S THE POINT? HE'S NOT ON THE TEAM. Maybe if we lost Dak for the season, you might actually appreciate the kid.
I do appreciate the kid a ton. It's nice to have hope for the future unlike many teams.

However, I just have concerns about what his true ceiling will be.
 

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What if Dak steadily gets worse by seasons end.
my question to you would be, why would he? is he lazy? does he worry about a bad game?
he will keep getting better as long as the right people show him his weakness and how to improve because he wants to be great, is a natural leader and working as hard as anyone.
dont worry about Dak
worry about offense line and healthy linebackers
 

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I do appreciate the kid a ton. It's nice to have hope for the future unlike many teams.

However, I just have concerns about what his true ceiling will be.

That's fair and to be honest Dak is a bit of a victim of his own early success. Everything just flowed the first year and he exceeded expectations. My only issues are that we have to let Romo go. It just makes us look weak as a fanbase imo. Dak certainly has his flaws but we have to be fair in perspective on how we're assessing him.
 

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Ha!! He's not the great Romo..you know with all the SB rings.

This has nothing to do with Romo, IMO.

I'm seeing a lot of people who were pro Dak last year, and couldn't wait to dump out of Romo, who seem to now be against Dak. It's not just on this forum either. There are a couple others where this seems to be the case as well.

We truly might have the dumbest fan base in all of pro sports.
 
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