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[superpunk]

He also didn't have any trouble with the injury after he threw the interception. It was only after Brade James blocked him did it further aggravate the injury. McNabb ran over to the area where Roy was runnng back the interception and was not limping. Then James blocked him and McNabb went down awkwardly. That is all it takes for that type of injury.

He was also doing ok after his season high in rushing attempts during that very game against the Cowboys. Taking those hits phased him far less than an awkward block from Bradie James, I guess.

Noone will ever know - but the way he reacts to adversity is at the very least suspect, due to defensive frustrations against Tampa Bay and Dallas, and when these "injuries" occurred, or were "aggravated."

Maybe it only seems like he "fakes" his injuries after every interception because he throws so few interceptions. He throws the second fewest interceptions per pass attempt in NFL history.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

And McNabb doesn't have those same intangibles? He has led them to 4 NFC championship games and 1 Superbowl. Sure Garcia's presence may have helped, but it looked mostly like just a change in offensive philosophy to take pressure off the QB. Garcia was not asked to do the same things McNabb was asked to do.

At best I will meet you half way on that one

I would rather face Philly with Garcia than with McNabb playing.

On this one I wont. I want McNabb(their best?) everytime we play them.

 

[adamknite]

He also didn't have any trouble with the injury after he threw the interception. It was only after Brade James blocked him did it further aggravate the injury. McNabb ran over to the area where Roy was runnng back the interception and was not limping. Then James blocked him and McNabb went down awkwardly. That is all it takes for that type of injury.

Maybe it only seems like he "fakes" his injuries after every interception because he throws so few interceptions. He throws the second fewest interceptions per pass attempt in NFL history.

It was a hernia he had for weeks. The guys at ESPN and doing the pregame wouldn't shut up about it and how McNabb was a "warrior" for dealing with it while going through TO drama. however, The injury wasn't hurting him enough to where he couldn't do moon walks in the end zone, and the "block" by Bradie can hardly be considered here. It was more like McNabb run up to him and fell down, James barely touched him.

Nobody has said the hernia was faked for crying out loud. But you watch, if he gets some sort of little injury this year, lets say he breaks a thumb and he goes out and plays anyway. After every bad play you'll see him grabbing the thumb, as if the injury is completely to blame .

 

[joseephuss]

At best I will meet you half way on that one



On this one I wont. I want McNabb(their best?) everytime we play them.

I agree. I want every team at their best. Just trying to state that Philly is a better team with McNabb. Pehaps I should haver phrased it like this. I like the Cowboys chances of beating Philly much better when Garcia is starting than McNabb.

I currently have one of these sports hernias. I play soccer on the weekends. No, it is not the NFL, but it is something physical I can move around pretty well for the most part. Every now and then, something will kind of make it hurt a lot worse. Sometimes along with the pain, I can barely function and will have to take a break. It doesn't take much sometimes. Maybe just a misplaced step here or kicking the ball slightly off balance. I know the James block did not look like much, but if I were hit like that, it would hurt like heck or worse. The worst part is the moring after my games when I can barely get out of bed. It won't get better until I have surgery to correct it.

 

[zrinkill]

I agree. I want every team at their best. Just trying to state that Philly is a better team with McNabb. Pehaps I should haver phrased it like this. I like the Cowboys chances of beating Philly much better when Garcia is starting than McNabb.

I currently have one of these sports hernias. I play soccer on the weekends. No, it is not the NFL, but it is something physical I can move around pretty well for the most part. Every now and then, something will kind of make it hurt a lot worse. Sometimes along with the pain, I can barely function and will have to take a break. It doesn't take much sometimes. Maybe just a misplaced step here or kicking the ball slightly off balance. I know the James block did not look like much, but if I were hit like that, it would hurt like heck or worse. The worst part is the moring after my games when I can barely get out of bed. It won't get better until I have surgery to correct it.

So you do the moonwalk and the dirty bird when ya score?

 

[superpunk]

I agree. I want every team at their best. Just trying to state that Philly is a better team with McNabb. Pehaps I should haver phrased it like this. I like the Cowboys chances of beating Philly much better when Garcia is starting than McNabb.

I currently have one of these sports hernias. I play soccer on the weekends. No, it is not the NFL, but it is something physical I can move around pretty well for the most part. Every now and then, something will kind of make it hurt a lot worse. Sometimes along with the pain, I can barely function and will have to take a break. It doesn't take much sometimes. Maybe just a misplaced step here or kicking the ball slightly off balance. I know the James block did not look like much, but if I were hit like that, it would hurt like heck or worse. The worst part is the moring after my games when I can barely get out of bed. It won't get better until I have surgery to correct it.

I don't think it was ultimately the sports hernia that did him in on that day. There wasan abdominal strain, I think.

I had surgery on my hernia about 7 months ago. It was really no big deal, but I know how much pain they cause when they're open. The worst part for me is that we would get together almost every weeks for volleyball with friends, and trying to contort and run in sand made it feel like my intestines were getting pinched off.

McNabb had been getting hit all day long. He had a season high in rushing attempts, high stepped into the end zone and then did the thriller dance complete with leg-whip and all.

I know how much that would have hurt me - legitimately - before that James' hit.

That makes his "injury" flare-up at best - suspect.

 

[joseephuss]

So you do the moonwalk and the dirty bird when ya score?

Of course.

 

[joseephuss]

I don't mind of he throws more game losing INTs against Dallas. I just know Dallas would have been better if they had him or a QB like him since Aikman retired. Now I am hoping Romo becomes at least as good and preferably even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc5QNmmIHYE

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I agree. I want every team at their best. Just trying to state that Philly is a better team with McNabb. Pehaps I should haver phrased it like this. I like the Cowboys chances of beating Philly much better when Garcia is starting than McNabb.

But they have both gotten the better of us in their starts against us career-wise right?

I will admit that McNabb is a good QB... but it IS situational with him. Some people fold under pressure and some people thrive/focus under it... ie. Brady...

So in summary... I think the hold McNabb has on that organization is actually hurting them... he is good enough to play well most of the time and represent the team well(in some eyes) but... overall he keeps them from closing the deal.

 

[zrinkill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc5QNmmIHYE

Like I said ..... the guy was barely touched

That moment that he put his head down is when he realized he lost the game and any chance they had at catching the Giants.

 

[joseephuss]

Like I said ..... the guy was barely touched

That moment that he put his head down is when he realized he lost the game and any chance they had at catching the Giants.

Like I said, it doesn't take much with an injury like he had. It looked like he just went down awkwardly. He may have been better off if James was able to tee off on him instead of the way it happened.

 

[zrinkill]

Like I said, it doesn't take much with an injury like he had.

Then he should not have been diving into the endzone, highstepping, and doing the moonwalk before his interception ......


If A guy is doing all that while he is supposed to be injured ..... then he should not be suprised when people look at him sideways when he is suddenly in horrible pain after making a game losing play.

The guy was milking his legitimate injury ......

 

[Smashmouth24]

he didn't have any trouble with the injury when he was freaking moon dancing in the end zone, now did he?

Well no, then again 'moon-dancing' isn't quite the strain on the lower abdomen (groin) as opening up your hips to change directions while getting shoved by Bradie James. So, I could at least see where one activity might further injure a torn abdominal wall and the other might not.

 

[superpunk]

Well no, then again 'moon-dancing' isn't quite the strain on the lower abdomen (groin) as opening up your hips to change directions while getting shoved by Bradie James. So, I could at least see where one activity might further injure a torn abdominal wall and the other might not.

I suppose his season high 5 rushing attempts earlier in the game made no never mind to that abdominal injury.

Our player just gave him little mosquito bites, in their mercy.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Well no, then again 'moon-dancing' isn't quite the strain on the lower abdomen (groin) as opening up your hips to change directions while getting shoved by Bradie James. So, I could at least see where one activity might further injure a torn abdominal wall and the other might not.

Wow... do we know this for a fact? your core hurt's upon the slightest movements when you have any injury... except when doing the moonwalk???

 

[iceberg]

Ok, I'm game. I'll ignore everything I know to true based on my experience of watching the guy playing College, and pro ball, and assume you're right.

Can you point to 1 instance where this tendency you claim occurred other than 2005 when his injury issues were well documented?

I honestly can't. I remember the Carolina playoff game where he left the field injured. 1 could say the Eagles lied about his injury, but 2 weeks later he was still injured and pulled out of the probowl.

I vaguely remember the Cardinal game where he limped around, but turns out the ankle was broken. And last year the torn ACL. No indications of that being fake.

Instead of trying to insult my intelligent because of my objectivity, show me your proof with documented occurrences, instead of homerism, and insults.

Hey Eagle fans, you guys should know something about this subject, am I way off base with my observations?

it wasn't your "objectivity" i called into question. it was why you felt it had something to do with penalties i never said existed. sorry, i just get tired of people making up things and pretending i said them to alter my point - OF WHICH - was pretty simple.

and no, i'm not going into the game by game, play by play, let's analyze the world till we find what *we* want routine. if your general impression is that he doesn't fake it - great.

my general impression is that he does, based off the years i've seen him in the NFL.

it's ok to disagree dude - this isn't a ONE MUST BE RIGHT!!! world.

 

[iceberg]

Dude are you even listening to what people are saying? Nobody is saying he's faking injuries like a sports hernia or torn ACL! Example of what they are saying: 2 guys are playing basketball, Guy1 takes a shot and misses, he starts rubbing his shoulder and says "well my shoulder has been sore since I lifted something the other day at work" Regardless of the injury McNabb always puts the blame for his playing poorly on an "injury." Nobody has said "McNabb faked his hernia" or any injury.

well it's good to know someone got it.

 

[iceberg]

He _never_ does this. He puts on a mopey face and says "my bad" but he doesn't feign injuries. This myth seems to be based entirely off of one play to Roy Williams. Pretty stupid. He also doesn't excuse poor play with phony injuries, either. You won't find examples of any such thing.

except i don't live in a world of ONE EVENT dictating an entire character. i never have and am not now. i've seen him do it A LOT.

look around - others have also, so it can't be just a "myth" from ONE event.

sorry, but i'm way beyond defining people from 1 event, so you're wrong.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

except i don't live in a world of ONE EVENT dictating an entire character. i never have and am not now. i've seen him do it A LOT.

look around - others have also, so it can't be just a "myth" from ONE event.

sorry, but i'm way beyond defining people from 1 event, so you're wrong.

I have seen him do it more than once.... AND... when the Eagles kicked the game winning FG against the Giants in the playoffs... McNabb looked like he wanted them to miss it.... they when it was made... he gave a half smile and an equally halfhearted pump fist... Garcia was leading them throught the playoffs and McNabb and Momma McNabb wudn't liken it 2 much

 

[Blue&Silver]

well it's good to know someone got it.

I've made myself pretty clear in each reply, so apparently no, not everyone gets it.

Way to seek solace in a misguided response.