What if Jason's in-game decisions are as poor as they have been? Where do we turn?

[CapnCook]

But hey, let's crucify the guy who can't get a challenge in when there was plenty of time to see that Welker let the ball hit the ground. Oh wait, that might cause someone to have to see their viewpoint a different way.

 

[Idgit]

Well, that statement makes more sense than the "he froze the kicker" statement does. At least you are discussing odds instead of a fallacy.
I never said it was easy to kick back to back 49 yard FGs. But whether he does or not is on HIM. Not because of some imagined freeze.

I think most kickers welcome the chance for a practice kick. It's the reason you see a lot of them follow through anyway when an icing timeout is called.
Either way, it doesn't matter. The ST coach wanted a split-second timeout for whatever reason. You want your HC to call that. If your kicker misses the ensuing kick, then he misses. It's still the right coaching call.

 

[CapnCook]

I think most kickers welcome the chance for a practice kick. It's the reason you see a lot of them follow through anyway when an icing timeout is called.
Either way, it doesn't matter. The ST coach wanted a split-second timeout for whatever reason. You want your HC to call that. If your kicker misses the ensuing kick, then he misses. It's still the right coaching call.

Great perspective.

 

[Clove]

What's funny is that people love making excuses for people they like. I care about the Dallas Cowboys, not a coach, or a player, but the team. If I don't think the Coach or a player is helping us win games to get to a Super Bowl, then I'm going to jump down his throat. Having said that, Garrett has been nothing but a failure since he's been here. As a coordinator and a head coach. Doesn't mean he can't turn it around, but it's just fact.

Now I know people like to say things like, it's on a player, or a kicker. If this is the case, why do Coaches get fired? Coaches get fired because they don't WIN. I don't care how it happened, or if this person was hurt, etc. Owners/GM's don't care. Fans that like winning, don't care. I don't care if he's an ivy league person, or Einstein, I just don't care. I care about winning, and I don't care about excuses. And when you can't manage the clock in a game, trying to run the ball on 4th and 1 when your offensive line is weak up front, no max-protection, pre snap penalties continually since he's been here, things that stop drives. I can go on and on and on. Then you add injuries, not having back ups ready to fill holes, delay penalties. Most of all, not making the play offs.

You can redeem yourself by simply going deep in the playoffs. Anything less than that is a failure. The name of the game is to win. Let's not forget that please, and let's stop embarrassing ourselves with making excuses for grown men who get paid MILLIONS to get a job done.

 

[Idgit]

What's funny is that people love making excuses for people they like. I care about the Dallas Cowboys, not a coach, or a player, but the team. If I don't think the Coach or a player is helping us win games to get to a Super Bowl, then I'm going to jump down his throat. Having said that, Garrett has been nothing but a failure since he's been here. As a coordinator and a head coach. Doesn't mean he can't turn it around, but it's just fact...

That's not a fact, it's an opinion.

It's an opinion based off of your own interpretation of what success is. Most of the league, throughout the history of the league, has measured a HC's success based off of the performance of his teams throughout his entire coaching tenure. The league is full of guys who started slowly with lesser personnel and improved their rosters to the point where they've won Superbowls. What you're doing is tantamount to calling a tied game at halftime and proclaiming the loss a 'fact.' It's not a fact. It's an opinion. And in my opinion, it's not even a convincing opinion because this team has pretty obviously gotten better across the board since 2010.

 

[CapnCook]

It's not making excuses, it's pinning the tail on the right donkey.

"Anything less than that is a failure." - The team will never go anywhere tagging out every coach who inherits the previous coaches mess. Turning a 53 man roster around is like navigating a cruise-liner, not a speedboat. As a matter of fact, Cowboys fans were too patient with the previous coach because of the winning record. But in reality, they were playing with a favorable hand from the roster they inherited. But after driving the team into the ground, it was going to take someone awhile to get the arrow pointed up. If you don't see that, then there is no point in the conversation.

Some people find their scapegoat and then everything that happens stems from that goat.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I love this myth of him costing us games left and right.

But please keep repeating it, I am sure there are plenty of the uninformed to influence with the bogus repeatition.

Seriously.

While he has made a few iffy calls.

The real reason for most if not all of those so called Garrett losses are "poor player execution". A ball caught here or there or a block made or not made was more the difference.

Still have dumb players that do dumb things.

 

[CoCo]

His decision to run in 3 times straight into the Patriots defense and punting it back to Brady cost us the game. Not having Romo attempt to pass on 3rd down, cost us the game.

Unless of course we had passed on 3rd down, thrown incomplete and stopped the clock. Then Garrett would have been blamed for not running the clock and costing us the game. It's silly IMO, how formulaic some people think a game is. Plug in A, get B as a result. Guaranteed.

If first downs and maintaining possession are that easy why did we ever punt in that game? No wait... let me guess... Garrett again?

 

[Galian Beast]

Unless of course we had passed on 3rd down, thrown incomplete and stopped the clock. Then Garrett would have been blamed for not running the clock and costing us the game. It's silly IMO, how formulaic some people think a game is. Plug in A, get B as a result. Guaranteed.

If first downs and maintaining possession are that easy why did we ever punt in that game? No wait... let me guess... Garrett again?

Straw man. I wouldn't blame a coach because they played to win, rather than playing not to lose.

The only difference is if you have a huge insurmountable lead going into the 2nd half and you're still passing as if you're down 14 points.

 

[Idgit]

Straw man. I wouldn't blame a coach because they played to win, rather than playing not to lose.

The only difference is if you have a huge insurmountable lead going into the 2nd half and you're still passing as if you're down 14 points.

You wouldn't blame a coach because the played to win, except in that one case where they played to win and lost (DET). And then you wouldn't blame a coach for playing conservatively with a lead, except that one time where he did, and we lost (NE). Is that about it?

It sounds more like you wouldn't blame a coach for winning, though I've heard others blame JG for not winning by enough points, so who knows?

 

[Galian Beast]

You wouldn't blame a coach because the played to win, except in that one case where they played to win and lost (DET). And then you wouldn't blame a coach for playing conservatively with a lead, except that one time where he did, and we lost (NE). Is that about it?

It sounds more like you wouldn't blame a coach for winning, though I've heard others blame JG for not winning by enough points, so who knows?

It seems like you have a difficult time understanding context.

There is a difference in playing with a lead that can be easily surmounted by a touchdown, and playing with a lead of multiple touchdowns.

 

[CoCo]

It seems like you have a difficult time understanding context.

There is a difference in playing with a lead that can be easily surmounted by a touchdown, and playing with a lead of multiple touchdowns.

I do think we all understand your point. My goodness, its been debated here for almost two years now. I just don't see any of those games (Detroit, NE, AZ) as nearly the definitive open & shut case some like to claim they are. No big deal, we disagree.

I'll wrap up by saying that while I really like a lot of what this team looks like with Garrett at the helm, and while I think some are unreasonably critical, he does need to demonstrate concrete results (wins) at some point. I think he's been hamstrung by some ridiculously weak O-lines and about the time it looks like that may be sufficiently patched up we start parading D-lineman to the infirmary. Geez its frustrating.