What is Parcells biggest failure so far?

[Novacek84]

I know we've had a ton of these Parcells threads and I am a Parcells supporter and hope he stays 2 more years. Having said that, I wonder in what area you guys feel Parcells has failed Jerry Jones most since he's been here?

For me, it has been how Bill has handled the whole Drew Henson situation. As I posted in the Henson experiment thread, I believe Bill let Jerry down the most at the end of 2004 when at 5-7 he chose to keep playing Vinny over Henson. At that time, Henson needed (and still does) playing time. I don't care that he hadn't played any meaningful games since 2000. The season was over at that point (did anyone here really believe the '04 team was playoff caliber?) and I feel it was Bill's responsibility to start looking at this team's future and he didn't do it. This has stuck in my craw as being Bill's worst offense since he's been here. He could have played Henson the rest of that season regardless of results and the fans/media wouldn't have said a peep. Why? Because it would show a conscious look toward the future by the coach when he promised that as part of his mission the day he was hired. I know Parcells wants to win every game and that's an admirable quality when you have a legitimate playoff contender but it becomes an albatross when you are trying to play out the string and look at your future. Because Bill was stubborn about Vinny then, this team still has no clue who the future of this franchise is after Bledsoe is done. They are still in the same spot today in regard to a franchise QB as they were in January 2005 in Giants Stadium and to me that is not progress. That's why I feel Bill's biggest failure as coach of the Cowboys is in this area. He left the Patriots with Bledsoe, he left the Jets with Pennington (pre-injury). Both were very good franchise QB prospects. Unless Henson turns out to be that guy here, (because I don't think Romo is) he will leave us with nothing and to me that will mark a lot of his tenure here as a failure. I hope I'm wrong and Henson magically develops this preseason but I'm not sure. And no, I don't see us drafting a QB very high in this draft.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I believe Bill let Jerry down the most at the end of 2004 when at 5-7 he chose to keep playing Vinny over Henson. At that time, Henson needed (and still does) playing time.

There is some validity to that. However, Bill will probably tell you he wasn't hired to develop a QB he was hired to win a super bowl.

 

[Woods]

I should firstly say that I am a big fan of BP.

I guess his biggest failure at this point in time is not yet winning a playoff game. Hopefully, that changes this year.

I guess after the success BP had his first year with the team lulled him into a sense of complacency in that he though he had better players than he did.

 

[Novacek84]

There is some validity to that. However, Bill will probably tell you he wasn't hired to develop a QB he was hired to win a super bowl.

Good point but I would counter that in 2004 they had no shot to win a Super Bowl with that team.

 

[BlueStar22]

Biggest failer, The QB position. Even when he's gone, we still will have questions at the most important position.

 

[NorTex]

Biggest failer, The QB position. Even when he's gone, we still will have questions at the most important position.

Wrong! Bill got rid of Quincy Carter! That was one of his best moves! I'll take Romo or Henson over Quincy Carter any day of the week.

 

[Haley94]

I like BP, but if I had to choose his biggest falure, it would have to be OL. Rogers is a bust. Rivera was way overpaid. Johnson is marginal at best. We spent alot of time and enegy on Tucker and he didn't give much back. Ryan Young lasted a year on a three year contract. His first oline coach was fired. He's had three years to build this Oline and I don't think he's done a very good job.

 

[theogt]

I like BP, but if I had to choose his biggest falure, it would have to be OL. Rogers is a bust. Rivera was way overpaid. Johnson is marginal at best. We spent alot of time and enegy on Tucker and he didn't give much back. Ryan Young lasted a year on, I beleive, a three year contract. His first oline coach was fired. He's had three years to build this Oline and i don't think he's done a very good job.

Ditto. I was just about type this, except I'm giving Johnson and Rivera 6 games this year before I come to those conclusions. Still, any way you slice it, OL has been his biggest failure.

 

[AmishCowboy]

It was Parcell's agreeing to the Rogers pick.

 

[tyke1doe]

I like BP, but if I had to choose his biggest falure, it would have to be OL. Rogers is a bust. Rivera was way overpaid. Johnson is marginal at best. We spent alot of time and enegy on Tucker and he didn't give much back. Ryan Young lasted a year on, I beleive, a three year contract. His first oline coach was fired. He's had three years to build this Oline and i don't think he's done a very good job.

I agree. The failure of Rogers hurt.

We took him in the second and with a talent deprived team like the Cowboys, particularly one that likes to run and needs a strong offensive line to protect an immobile QB, that miss on Rogers was huge.

The other one had to be passing on Delhomme and Berry in free agency. (Was that under Bill's tenure?)

I can't fault Bill on the Henson deal. I expect a competitive coach to play for wins, not play to develop players and for draft position.

Besides, Parcells said Henson was not ready, and he didn't want to hurt his confidence. I trust he knows more about this than the average fan. Henson was not ready to play in the NFL. I don't know what him learning on the fly would have done particularly when he had only one season of college football from which to draw. It would be like sticking a high school football player into the NFL and saying, "Here, learn to play the game."

Without the mental and psychological progression, you'd lose the player.

Parcells is old school. He's grooming his quarterbacks the way they were groomed in times of old. No one used to complain when Staubach went down and a Clint Longley or a Danny White (who essentially had no experience prior to becoming starters) came in to rescue the day and play competently.

It's all about mastering the playbook and the nuances of the game. And sometimes you can learn that better by paying attention on the sidelines, though you will at some point need game experience.

I'm not as worried about the backup QB position as some fans are. But then again, I'm an old school type myself.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

There is some validity to that. However, Bill will probably tell you he wasn't hired to develop a QB he was hired to win a super bowl.

Actually, Parcells wnated Hensen just as bad as Jerry, and so much so that when they brought Hensen in for his workout they kept it on the Hush-Hush. In fact this was Parcells decision to be secretive, and he made it to keep other interested teams from finding out about Dallas' intent to sign Hensen, so they won't cause a bidding war; he did it to ensure that Dallas was the onlyy team Hensen negotated with.

Now back to the original question on this thread. I think Parcells' bigeest mistake was signing-off on the Hensen deal in the firat place. This is not a knock on Henses, but the way they handled the situation back then they acted (and thought they were potentailly getting an Aikman-like QB. Parcells could nat have been more wrong. And the move was made in the heart of the QC experiment. A better decision would have been to draft a QB and not roll the dice on another QB-experiment.

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[LittleBoyBlue]

I dont know if I could call his handling of Henson a failure... because that has not been determined yet... I will admit like many others that I wanted to see Henson play more in games... but he didnt and I am over it... I am curious to see what Henson can do... BIG PICTURE, if Henson works out then BP did all the right things...

now on to what I think is his biggest failure... OLINE is up there, but his laid back coaching of Cowboys is still suprising, yeah he blew up a few times at Kickers? Punters? but so what...

Just never saw that FIRE when dealing with the players... I believe we need that along with all the other things he brings...

so my Answer is his coaching approach when coaching the Cowboys

sidenote: not trying to put games away when opps were there...

 

[Big Country]

I like BP, but if I had to choose his biggest falure, it would have to be OL. Rogers is a bust. Rivera was way overpaid. Johnson is marginal at best. We spent alot of time and enegy on Tucker and he didn't give much back. Ryan Young lasted a year on, I beleive, a three year contract. His first oline coach was fired. He's had three years to build this Oline and i don't think he's done a very good job.

Bill and the Cowboy organization fixed the roster with tough guys in his first year... pretty well stayed pat with the existing roster.

They missed a gear in his second year but managed to fortify the RB position with a little excitement...

The third year was a major overhaul of the defense... injecting some real talent and youth in the DL...

This year the OL will be brand new with a few existing pieces cleaned up... Until now the OL was more or less brushed over and patched up... If after this year the OL is still playing poorly, consider that his failure.

I wont say QB was or is a failure during the BP tenure, because we all saw what Bledsoe can do with time to work.

 

[Dalmations202]

His biggest failure, IMO, switching to the 3-4 and having to get the players for it. When he had the makings of a very good 4-3. Then he didn't make the moves on the OL because he had to use them for rebuilding a descent 4-3 into a 3-4.

Just goes to show that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

 

[theogt]

His biggest failure, IMO, switching to the 3-4 and having to get the players for it. When he had the makings of a very good 4-3. Then he didn't make the moves on the OL because he had to use them for rebuilding a descent 4-3 into a 3-4.

Just goes to show that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

This has been his biggest success actually.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Not going to the 3-4 when he first arrived....we would be two years into the project now vs one year......and this defense is looking good.

 

[theogt]

Not going to the 3-4 when he first arrived....we would be two years into the project now vs one year......and this defense is looking good.

That was more of a personnel issue.

 

[the kid 05]

Wrong! Bill got rid of Quincy Carter! That was one of his best moves! I'll take Romo or Henson over Quincy Carter any day of the week.

why? he won didn't he? he did what bill asked didn't he? Romo and henson both at the same time right now can't hold quincys jock strap

 

[THUMPER]

Bill's biggest failure was keeping Mike Zimmer as the DC.

 

[Chuck 54]

I know we've had a ton of these Parcells threads and I am a Parcells supporter and hope he stays 2 more years. Having said that, I wonder in what area you guys feel Parcells has failed Jerry Jones most since he's been here?

For me, it has been how Bill has handled the whole Drew Henson situation. As I posted in the Henson experiment thread, I believe Bill let Jerry down the most at the end of 2004 when at 5-7 he chose to keep playing Vinny over Henson. At that time, Henson needed (and still does) playing time. I don't care that he hadn't played any meaningful games since 2000. The season was over at that point (did anyone here really believe the '04 team was playoff caliber?) and I feel it was Bill's responsibility to start looking at this team's future and he didn't do it. This has stuck in my craw as being Bill's worst offense since he's been here. He could have played Henson the rest of that season regardless of results and the fans/media wouldn't have said a peep. Why? Because it would show a conscious look toward the future by the coach when he promised that as part of his mission the day he was hired. I know Parcells wants to win every game and that's an admirable quality when you have a legitimate playoff contender but it becomes an albatross when you are trying to play out the string and look at your future. Because Bill was stubborn about Vinny then, this team still has no clue who the future of this franchise is after Bledsoe is done. They are still in the same spot today in regard to a franchise QB as they were in January 2005 in Giants Stadium and to me that is not progress. That's why I feel Bill's biggest failure as coach of the Cowboys is in this area. He left the Patriots with Bledsoe, he left the Jets with Pennington (pre-injury). Both were very good franchise QB prospects. Unless Henson turns out to be that guy here, (because I don't think Romo is) he will leave us with nothing and to me that will mark a lot of his tenure here as a failure. I hope I'm wrong and Henson magically develops this preseason but I'm not sure. And no, I don't see us drafting a QB very high in this draft.

Are you kidding...his biggest failure so far is clearly OL and just about every single move he's made there. We hope this year will be better, but there's no guarantee.