What is Parcells biggest failure so far?

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Developing young OL has not been Parcells' strong point to say the least. Jacob Rogers is gone and Al Johnson, Stephen Peterman and Rob Pettiti look average at best. Johnson is still fighting for his job with Andre Gurode, Peterman won't even make it on the field with Kosier on board now and Pettiti was nothing more than a turnstile last year. Basically, JJ has to sign FA's to improve the OL and that's a direct result of poor drafting and development. Even worse, I seriously doubt Johnson, Peterman or Pettiti will remain Cowboys much longer.
 

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AmericasTeam said:
Thats a joke; I really wish people would knock of the Zimmer junk.

To me, BP biggest failure was working with what was here the first year. He should have done like he has done everywhere else and started turning it into his team right away.

That's exactly my point. Keeping Zimmer delayed the changes that were inevitable on defense as well as holding back the development of young talent. We had opportunities to get some quality players in FA back in 2003 if we would have bit the bullet and gone to the 3-4 right away.

Both Ellis and Glover had very good trade value at the time and we could have easily replaced them with DLs who were more suited to the 3-4. LBs could also have been picked up in FA who would have been a better fit than Singleton, Coakley, and Nguyen.

We STILL don't have the type of defense we need and never will as long as Zimmer is here. He still plays the same old "read and react" "bend but don't break" style he learned from Campo rather than the attacking style Parcells has had everywhere else he has coached.

Keeping Zimmer was a very poor joke played on Cowboys players and fans.
 

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dbair1967 said:
I dont agree its his biggest failure but please, Zimmer has been painfully average at best so far...his defenses never rush the passer with any consistency, we dont stop the run with any consistency and the defense has 6yrs running track record of blowing 4th qtr leads...we keep adding talented players but the results are all pretty much the same..hopefully it will be different this yr

any other franchise would have fired him 2 or 3 yrs ago

David

Added talent? Besides T. New, RW, and G. Ellis our drafts for the 4-3 were mediocre. Ellis is no more than T. Tolbert he is no C. Haley. Ellis is a good all round DE but no spectacular. Once you got past Glover our DT sucked. Our LB in a 4-3 were never meant to rush the passer and were easily knocked off in blitzes due to their size. Our DB's minus T-New and RW were below average in skill, I left Woody out since he was hurt a lot in the final years. You can only do so much with the personnel which we didn't have. In the campo years we had a lot of guys that would only be back ups on other teams or practice squad guys. After all the salary cap issues we had I am surprised the cowboys were never worse than 5-11 because they had less talent than the 89 team IMO. During the campo years our horrible drafts and lack of cap management came home to roost plain and simple.

Even now we didn't do a lot of blitzing last year because our LB were a mess and not enough trust for them to handle their assignements right, that and a new system probably led them to use a conservative blitz package. This is the make or break year for Zim.
 

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big dog cowboy said:
However, Bill will probably tell you he wasn't hired to develop a QB he was hired to win a super bowl.
Bill might say that, but it isn't true.
Bill was hired as part of a Four Year Plan to rebuild this team and the have it at the point where it could "compete for a Super Bowl" on an annual basis. In other words, to have it "playoff ready".
Think back to the press conference announcing his hire. Not one word was uttered about "winning" a Super Bowl.

We got lucky and made the playoffs the first year. That was unfortunate because, since then, Bill has embarked on a plan of trying to "win now" by bringing in old, immobile veteran quarterbacks and "Bill guys". He won't play a young quarterback, even if we are out of the playoffs. Why not? Because he is concerned more about his "legacy" than what this team does after he leaves.
If we had "bombed" the first year, he'd have junked the team right then and rebuilt it from the ground up. Including training a young QB.

IMO, Bills biggest failures are on offense. We need a younger, more mobile QB, a good offensive line, and an offensive coordinator. I still can't believe we don't have the latter.
 

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Jacob Rogers was a big mistake, but the draft is a crap shoot. That was a wasted 2nd rounder, which was not good.

About Henson, when he started that game against Chicago, he showed he wasnt yet ready to play in the NFL. Unlike a guy like Aikman, who came in with college experience, Henson had very little college experience, and he didn't play for 3 years prior. He wasn't ready, and he showed it. Parcells wanted to preserve his psyche
 

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SouthernStar said:
IMO, Bills biggest failures are on offense. We need a younger, more mobile QB
I think he is already on our roster. Of course he is over in Europe right now gaining valuable playing time.
 

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chinch said:
no doubt about it.

it's laughable that fans thought our 4-3 was anything but mediocre


For all your laughing. Dallas D in 03/04 while running the 4-3 and having Zimmerman as the DC was ranked about 9 places higher than the 3-4 that was put out there this last year. In fact, they were ranked higher than all the other teams in the NFL (#1) for yards/gm avg only 260.9 yds a game, which is less per game than either Pit or TB the leaders the last two years.

Dallas D was set up to suceed as a 4-3. Bill decided to change something that really didn't need changing, and screwed the OLine in the process. Now I realize that some here think he is the smartest coach to ever coach a game, but Gibbs, Shanahan, Gruden, and many others are just as qualifed and utilize different methods that work just as well.

I am saying that if he wouldn't have played the "I know the 3-4" and instead focused on the offense, that maybe the offense would be much better, and the defense might not have been any worse.:bang2:

Instead, we have moved the older Pro-bowl players off the team, for a change to a new D that may or may not be better. It is definately Bills team, and I hope he suceeds like he usually does everywhere he goes. I also think this team is getting more talented and younger. With that said, Barry Switzer took the Cowboys to one superbowl, and to another championship game, and that is a whole lot farther than Bill has taken the Cowboys --- yet.
 

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big dog cowboy said:
There is some validity to that. However, Bill will probably tell you he wasn't hired to develop a QB he was hired to win a super bowl.

I don't see any validity to that, 1 game, or even 7, wouldn't have done much good for Henson his 1st year
 

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numbers and stats can be massaged to prove any point.

our 4-3 was devoid of "making big plays" and was basically a prevent type D that broke every time we needed a stop.

totally overrated as most here posted (back in the day) and realize.

our D is gonna be setup for years to come and will be built on a solid foundation (like other really stable Ds in NFL - pats/pit comes to mind ... hmmmm)
 

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Dalmations202 said:
Dallas D was set up to suceed as a 4-3.

no it wasn't, we lacked talent on the front 4 outside of Glover and Ellis, who were getting doubled, it was a weak schedule, facing pathetic offenses that helped us, we struggled in 2 of the most important facets of the game, for many years, causing TOs and applying consistent pressure, once our all-out blitz was solved, we were done, and which we improved on them the 1st year in a totally, foreign scheme

just look at the talent on D we've accumulated these past 1 1/2 offseasons, and compare it to the talent we fielded on D in '03...

oh and btw, it's more personnel than it is scheme, regardless what scheme you run, you need great personnel, and which we have, thank you BIll!
 

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Those stats were a sham. I know I was excited as hell about it back then and bragged to fans of other teams, but we were not the #1 defense in the league.
 

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Woods said:
I guess his biggest failure at this point in time is not yet winning a playoff game. Hopefully, that changes this year.

that's the only fault I have with him

edit: oline as well, although his track record in the past was alright in that department, can't see why the fortunes there can't change
 

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tyke1doe said:
The other one had to be passing on Delhomme and Berry in free agency. (Was that under Bill's tenure?)

yes, it was under BIll's tenure, but we didn't pass on Berry, he took more to go to AZ, and c'mon, Delhomme was a virtual unknown, and was had for chump change
 

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THUMPER said:
Bill's biggest failure was keeping Mike Zimmer as the DC.

the same Mike Zimmer who's D compared to the almighty Greg William's? who's D actually slipped while zimmer's improved?
 

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ghst187 said:
Biggest successes
1) Drew Bledsoe
2) JJ trade that netted Spears
3) D Ware
4) Terry Glenn handling and trade to get him
5) Key
6) exponentially enhancing the overall talent level on the team
7) Hiring Jeff Ireland
8) TNew
9) changing the overall team mentality

what about signing Anthony Henry, Aaron Glenn, Richie ANderson?
 

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jrumann59 said:
Added talent? Besides T. New, RW, and G. Ellis our drafts for the 4-3 were mediocre. Ellis is no more than T. Tolbert he is no C. Haley. Ellis is a good all round DE but no spectacular. Once you got past Glover our DT sucked. Our LB in a 4-3 were never meant to rush the passer and were easily knocked off in blitzes due to their size. Our DB's minus T-New and RW were below average in skill, I left Woody out since he was hurt a lot in the final years. You can only do so much with the personnel which we didn't have. In the campo years we had a lot of guys that would only be back ups on other teams or practice squad guys. After all the salary cap issues we had I am surprised the cowboys were never worse than 5-11 because they had less talent than the 89 team IMO. During the campo years our horrible drafts and lack of cap management came home to roost plain and simple.

Even now we didn't do a lot of blitzing last year because our LB were a mess and not enough trust for them to handle their assignements right, that and a new system probably led them to use a conservative blitz package. This is the make or break year for Zim.

:hammer:

and don't forget since the days of Deion and Kevin Smith, our CB corp sucked, Zimmer was handcuffed
 
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