What is the future of Marcus Spears?

[Tio]

First Trent Green was basically a rookie. We groomed him, and he was playing like an NFL starter. Had we kept green we would have been a better franchise.
He would have been the trent green he is today. What are you talking about???? Thats like saying Aikman wasn't good in Dallas his first year or two.

And no Brad Johnson had 1 great year in washington, and he was mediocre when tampa won the superbowl.

He is not that old and not a starting qb because he is and has always been mediocre except in the skins playoff year.

Well, I happen to think Trent benefits from priest holmes and the chiefs OL. Who knows how he turns out with Marty ball and spurrier, you might have another patrick ramsey on your hands.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Jerry got lucky, you are so ignorant.

Jerry saw the oppurtunity to trade a great RB for all of those picks, he didn't get lucky. He could have easily kept Walker, and he had to choose who to take with those picks. With it he helped build one of the greatest olines in the nfl.

It doesn't matter how long Jerry has been an owner, he had much more success than Snyder, and Snyder inherited a playoff team. Jerry got great talents like Novacheck, Deion and Haley that helped put our team over the top. Jerry overrall ran his team the way it was supposed to be run, Snyder has had to have continually cut and trade good players because of his stupid decisions.

Tio, there is certainly some "luck" involved. Even I have to admit that. Some of it is luck. Some of it is being smart enough to take advantage of a good situation. Some of it is having the people under you both as players and coaches reach their potential at the same time.

I see that in business all the time.

 

[Tio]

Tio, there is certainly some "luck" involved. Even I have to admit that. Some of it is luck. Some of it is being smart enough to take advantage of a good situation. Some of it is having the people under you both as players and coaches reach their potential at the same time.

I see that in business all the time.

But is it enough luck to put Jerry and Snyder on equal levels? Heck no.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

But is it enough luck to put Jerry and Snyder on equal levels? Heck no.

On equal levels not... not overall. But I will say over the last decade I see more similarities between the two than I care too quite frankly.

 

[Tio]

On equal levels not... not overall. But I will say over the last decade I see more similarities between the two than I care too quite frankly.

Morning Winicki, I think JJ has gotten on the right track with BP...with a few hiccups of course.

Lets never mention them again...

 

[kapolani]

So your from Texas?

That would be you're...

Pet peeve...

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

First Trent Green was basically a rookie. We groomed him, and he was playing like an NFL starter. Had we kept green we would have been a better franchise.
He would have been the trent green he is today. What are you talking about???? Thats like saying Aikman wasn't good in Dallas his first year or two.

And no Brad Johnson had 1 great year in washington, and he was mediocre when tampa won the superbowl.

He is not that old and not a starting qb because he is and has always been mediocre except in the skins playoff year.

"Last I saw the boys have been a laughing stock of personnell decisions. Drew Henson." - you

:jerk:

 

[Hostile]

OK I will spell this out for you guys.

Jerry has been an owner longer.

Jerry got the benefit of an idiotic trade to get a boat load of draft picks.

Jerry go lucky and got 3 hof'ers at 3 key positions.

Now if you are honest with yourselves...Jerry and Danny are very much alike based on recent history.

Don't tell me the boys won the superbowls BECAUSE of Jerry. You don't really believe that do you??????????

Yeah it is all about luck.



Let me ask you this, if you acknowledge that stockpiling Draft picks helped build the Cowboys into a Super Bowl winner why do you ignore the point I made about the Commanders trading away Draft picks?

Since we got "lucky" wouldn't that make you unlucky?

There are a few similarities between Jerry and Dan, but there is one very big difference that you are ignoring as well. Jerry came into the NFL and in his first 5 years in the league won 2 Super Bowls with Jimmy Johnson at the helm. He let that go to his head a little bit. Your owner came into the NFL with a swelled head. Jerry paid his dues before he was successful. Dan simply assumed he had a birthright.

2 more years and Jerry added a 3rd Super Bowl, still basically with Jimmy's team but he did pull off some moves on his own.

Success spoiled Jerry and made him over confident. Dan came in spoiled and over confident.

There's a pretty big difference between the 2 right there.

Now, I will not tell you that Dan is a bad owner, because he isn't. In fact he's a very good owner. Give me an owner who wants to win badly any day of the week over an owner like Bill Bidwell who could care less. Jerry learned the hard way that he needed to pull back and with the hiring of Bill Parcells has done that.

Can you please tell me how Dan has had an epiphany? He's still doing the exact same things he did the day he bought the team and it isn't working. Your team is going to hit rok bottom due to the Salary Cap. His football people have done a good job managing the Cap. I'll give you that. But eventually high priced players will be let go to create cap room and you don't have draft picks being groomed to take over at most of those positions because you traded them away. On purpose.

That's not bad luck, that's bad management.